10wk Test Log

[suprfast]

I appreciate the input bro. Was doing the extra sets/reps cause I didn't feel like I killed the muscle. Will implement changes moving forward.

Nothing wrong at all with the extra sets. I just added a few extra sets and push myself like hell to finish them. Im pumped by the third or fourth set of just about every workout and usually put in 4-5 sets. Lift heavier(not one rep stuff, just heavier) and you will come back talking about how pumped you always feel. I think im about two weeks further in the cycle then you and I can tell you I have recent had 2-3 workouts where I felt like my muscles were HUGE. I get that douchy feeling to stand and look at myself in the mirror.

 

[J.thom]

didn't get a chance to read the whole thread but what's wrong? You're not getting the results you wanted? I just used the Z dom EP line gear with test/dbol and it was very nice. I agree with you on having VERY minimum sides. I did not get any acne, bloat, high bp, or anything else. But I can assure you the gear is legit. I was working a part time job, going to school full time, and studying a couple hours every night. Meaning, I was exhausted by the time I got to the gym late at night. However, my workouts were insane. The Z gear definitely helped put on some nice LBM and I notice a HUGE difference in being off gear.

If you're wanting to help gain weight I would definitely start pounding the food. I have a hard time gaining so I know what it takes to put on those lbs. Eat, eat, and eat some more. If you're full throw in a shake or two and then eat again lol. I usually try to have a clean diet mon-fri, then I choose my carbs wisely on the weekends.

Hope this helped, gl man!

 

[waterstill]

I have recent had 2-3 workouts where I felt like my muscles were HUGE. I get that douchy feeling to stand and look at myself in the mirror.

When done in moderation I think it's ok/motivating once in awhile

thread but what's wrong? You're not getting the results you wanted?

Hope this helped, gl man!

Thanks man. I'd say no- maybe I should have tempered my expectations..but I've had better results off PH's before..also ran a dbol only cycle where I gained a ton of weight and strength. However I know this is more a long term-orientated cycle. Maybe it's something I'll notice when it's not there..the mental aspect/libido isn't present as either. Not bashing, just saying how I've felt so far..I'll be taking pics soon to compare, because the scale can be deceiving


Definitely appreciate the input guys! I'm trying to make the most of my cycle.

 

[waterstill]

Legs


BB Squat..wanted to make sure I went low and got good reps
135x10
225x10
245x8
255x8

BB front squat
155x10
165x8
175x8

Sled
4 plates each sidex10
5x10
6x8

Laying hamstring
130x10
150x10
170x10
190x6

Leg extension
170x12

YouTube Video

 

[waterstill]

11/21
Back
didn't write it down..so just an estimate

lat pulldown
3x10x200

bentover bb row reverse grip
185x10
205x10
205x10

bentover db row
115x8
115x8...80x8
80x12

not sure if I had another exercise here

standing lat pullover
3x8-12 of ?

kneeling lat pullover with rope
12-15 of ?


As I said re-injured my pec doing dips the other day so didn't want to push..also didn't write down reps/weight
11/22 chest
Incline bb bench @ 30 degrees
175x10
185x10
195x10

decline bb bench
205x10
225x10
stopped because there was a lot of strain

incline tsuki press
55x10
65x10
70x8...55x4

cable crossover (pulling down)
30x10
38x10
42x10

pulling up
40x10
40x10

pec-deck (inner rom)
150 to failure x 2


Thoughts
don't figure many are following but...Was running aromasin 12.5 eod, should have upped it. I had small pre-existing gyno in my left side, just checked and it's definitely bigger..my fault for not checking often.

thinking I'll do 25mg ed or maybe torem as well? not sure. Gonna fit a shoulder/trap workout in tomorrow before I head home for ~3 days of rest

YouTube Video

 

[Wooll]

Have you noticed a difference pinning in the am vs pm?

 

[waterstill]

Have you noticed a difference pinning in the am vs pm?

Absolutely no difference

 

[bigbenj]

Bump up the aromasin. If you can, grab some letro to try and minimize the lump.

 

[vannesb]

looking good bro!

 

[suprfast]

Looks like you have the same issues on BB bench that I do. I started going a lot lighter on the BB but kill it on DB. Looking good man, glad to see the weights coming up. If its too easy to finish, then its probably TOO EASY(stating the obvious)

 

[waterstill]

Haven't been writing everything down..there's a shoulder workout 11/23 I didn't write anything down..no pressing movements..front raises/lat raises/shrugs 225-275-315/upright row 135 w straps

11/27
Back heavy

seated wide grip pulldown
220x8
x8
x8ish

neutral grip close
240x7
220x7
200x8

reverse grip close pulldown
180x8
200x8

bb row
135x10
185x8-10
205x-8-10
225x6..3
225x6?

yates row
135...
155...
175...

lat pullover
3x62?x10-12

11/28 chest
DB press
80x12
90x10
110x7
110x6

Incline tsuki press
60x10
65x10
65x8

Incline db flye superset with squeeze press to failure
40x10..max
40x10..max
40x10..max

cable flye
37x
42x
42x..32x..22x

legs today..and some nice pics

 

[waterstill]

11/29
Legs

Front Squats
135x10...then..155x10
175x8
185x8
195x6

Deadlift
did these super slow and made sure there was no momentum
225x10
225x7
295x6

Leg Extension
210x10
250x10
290x8...to..230x8...to...170x8
290x8

Seated ham curl..slow reps
150x8
170x8
?x8

Laying ham curl
150x8
170x8
150x8...130x4

YouTube Video

 

[waterstill]

12/1
Back day, light..focused on the pump/squeeze

lost my page for this so going off memory

reverse wide grip pulldown
seated rows
1 arm t-bar rows
wide grip pulldown
lat pullover
back iso

12/2
shoulders..lost my paper on this too so highlights only

side lateral raises 3x8-12 of 35,40,45
Front raises with Ez bar 65x10,65x10,75x7
1 arm cable side raises (behind back to side) 3x10-12 of 22,17
reverse pecdec 2x10-12 of 170,190
upright rows 135x6-10x3 sets with rest pause
bb shrugs 225,275,315,225..good squeeze at the top


12/3
Bi/tri not sure how I keep losing all this shit
superset
1 arm reverse pushdown
1 arm low pulley curl
3x12

superset
seated db curl with 40,45
ezbar skullcrushers with 85,753x12

superset
low pulley ezbar curl 3x12 with ~70?
overhead rope extension 3x7-14 with 82-92

superset
spider curls with 40,40,35
db kickback with 30
3x12

 

[MakeItMethylated]

Just read the whole log and your doing great man, props

Noticed any weight physique change
Yet?

 

[Gear_Addict]

Great log, I'll be following.

 

[waterstill]

Just read the whole log and your doing great man, props

Noticed any weight physique change
Yet?

Weight not much, but I'm at 25mg of aromasin a day. Still figured I would have built some muscle though, maybe losing bf? I do think I'm a LITTLE more filled out.

Seems 500mg a week was too low and I started upping it 1-2 weeks ago, we shall see how that goes.

I noticed a better pump since starting dbol, however way less weight gain this time around (gained ~15lbs on a dbol cycle) probably do to the aromasin again.


12/5
Chest

BB Bench
135x12
185x10
225x10
245x8
225x8

Incline DB bench @ 30 degrees
70x8
80x8
triple drop 80x5...70x2...60x4

Seated machine press
I don't like these new machines, and haven't really done them. Not sure why this was so fucking hard
175x8
175x6...155x4
155x6...135x6

Cable flye high pulley
42x8/10
42x8???
42x6..37x5
37x5..32x5

Pec deck
170?x max inner ROM
150xmax inner ROM and rest pause

 

[MakeItMethylated]

Dbol is love I gained 13 pounds and kept 10

If I were u I'd drop the AI

The water weight can be helpful with strength and #s

 

[waterstill]

Dbol is love I gained 13 pounds and kept 10

If I were u I'd drop the AI

The water weight can be helpful with strength and #s

Yea I know, it's a tricky situation for me. I usually have semi-puffy nips so when they get even more puffy it's infuriating. I ran an epi cycle before and during that had zero puff (lol). With this I am torn..but then again the aromasin hasn't helped a ton with puffyness

 

[MakeItMethylated]

Yea I know, it's a tricky situation for me. I usually have semi-puffy nips so when they get even more puffy it's infuriating. I ran an epi cycle before and during that had zero puff (lol). With this I am torn..but then again the aromasin hasn't helped a ton with puffyness

Drop aromasin and keep nolva on hand just in case?

If you have or can get some

Anti estrogens just hold me back

Sucks about the puffy nips man

 

[bigbenj]

Id put that girl in the last pic on smash. beautiful face, perfect juggs. mmm mmm MMMM!

 

[bigbenj]

kind of concerned that the last couple of test logs you guys are reporting not too much in the way of weight gain.

 

[MakeItMethylated]

kind of concerned that the last couple of test logs you guys are reporting not too much in the way of weight gain.

x2

 

[waterstill]

kind of concerned that the last couple of test logs you guys are reporting not too much in the way of weight gain.

x3


12/6 back
wanted to switch up my routine a little..good workout but no mental intensity which is upsetting.

Seated wide grip pulldown
240x5
240x5
220x5
220x5
220x5

BB Row
225x5
245x5
245x5
265x5
225x12

Seated neutral grip pulldowns
180x12
200x10
220x8....180x3/4

Bentover 1 arm db row
100x12
110x10
110x8.....80x4-6


Food porn
the meat...not shown potatoes, carrots, onion, spices

in the pot

gettin there

 

[PUMP_THAT]

That looks GOOOOOOD man !! love me some food porn
good workout !

 

[waterstill]

12/7
legs

BB Squat
135x10
225x10
245x8
265x8
285x6
300x3

BB Lunges
95x12 each leg x3

Leg extensions
3x 21's with 210,230,290 (high/full/low) ROM

Seated ham machine
3x8-12 good squeeze slow reps


Laying ham machine
2x stack x max reps

 

[waterstill]

Came up with this split for tomorrow, any input?

Incline BB press 3x8
Bentover BB row 3x8

Seated machine press 3x12
Seated rows hammer 3x12


Cable crossovers 4x8-15
Standing cable pullover 4x8-15

sat/sun would be bi/tri and the following day shoulders/traps then an off day

 

[suprfast]

mad props for the food porn

Workouts are looking good man.

 

[waterstill]

12/9 chest/back

Incline BB bench @ 30 degrees
205x8
205x7

stopped because I tweaked my pec AGAIN.

Bentover bb row
225x12
225x12
225x10

Cable flye high pulley
32x12
37x12
42x8...37x4

Seated hammer machine row single hand no straps
100x8
100x8
100x8

Machine press
went light due to injury
130x15
130x15
130x15

standing straightbar pulldown for lats
52x15
57x15
62x8...x4.....52x5

The thing that I am mystified about is I've had the same lifting partner for the past 3 years (my roommate). We lift together 99/100 times. Our strength is/has been even on about everything. With that being said, since starting my cycle, he has been able to keep up/do the same weights/reps/intensity as myself and is on no supplemetns or AAS. So WTF

 

[strategos14]

yeah it's been 7 weeks right? i would have put on weight and strength by now. and at 500mg a week, i would notice some acne as well. that's just me though. on a cycle like this i'd start seeing easily noticeable gains every week at about week 6 up until a month after i stopped pinning. again, that's just me.

 

[waterstill]

yeah it's been 7 weeks right? i would have put on weight and strength by now. and at 500mg a week, i would notice some acne as well. that's just me though. on a cycle like this i'd start seeing easily noticeable gains every week at about week 6 up until a month after i stopped pinning. again, that's just me.

Been 58 days or 8.2 weeks. I upped it to 750 two weeks ago and 1g this past week.