18 year old kid about to take epistane (not a troll)

[thespider12]

I wanna get big at all costs I tried eating more Ive been weight lifting for a while so im tired of it even if it kills me i will get bigger. I dont care about what happens in the future i wanna get bigger. so please give advice and not bash me like i know some of you guys will cause i am going to take it.

here is my cycle

Epistane cycle (Bulking) Very first cycle
10/20/20/30
Yes I know this dosing is low but this is my very first ph.
I will be taking cycle support, specifically advanced cycle support by ironmaglabs one capsule in the morning with epistane an hour before I workout. Then I will wait 12 hours before I take the next one with advanced cycle support.
My PCT will be Nolva 20/20/10/10
Advanced cycle support two caps daily
An ?AI? E control (the one with 6- oxo) by ironmaglabs my last 3 weeks of the cycle to prevent E2 rebound
I will also have Clomid on hand as a safety measure but I will not be using it unless something goes wrong.
My diet 7 am
One cup egg whites - 117 calories, 1g carbs, 26g protein, fat 0g
2 cups of water
2 slices of multigrain toast- 130 calories, 12g carbs, 5g protein
9 am
One cup of white rice- 204 calories, 0g fat, 44g carbs, 4g protein
Nature valley granola bar- 90 calories, 3g fat, 15 carbs, 2g protein
1 cup of water
11pm
Syntha 6 protein shake mixed with milk- 330 calories, 11g fat, 26g carbs, 30g protein
3:00 pm
8 oz chicken breast 281 calories, 11g fat, 0g carbs, 42g protein
1 cup of water


1pm
6 oz Serious mass shake mixed with milk 540 calories, 14g fat, 83g carbs, 25g protein
4:30
One cup of egg whites 117 calories, 1g carbs, 26g protein, fat 0g
5pm- Work
8-9 pm break from work
6 oz Serious mass shake mixed with milk 540 calories, 14g fat, 83g carbs, 25g protein
2-3 am
1 cup of white rice 204 calories, 0g fat, 44g carbs, 4g protein
One cup of corn 133 calories, 1g fat, 30g carbs, 4g protein
The only reason why I take the mass shakes is because I have to go to work and I don?t get break until about four to five hours later.
Daily intake total
2,686 calories
339g carbs
193g protein
anything to add????????

 

[independent]

Calories are too low. I would add dbol or anadrol.

 

[Standard Donkey]

this kid measures his water? lolz

 

[thespider12]

yes to make sure i get 8 to 10 glasses of water a day and im sorry dumbass dbol and anadrol are to harsh for me

 

[thespider12]

i just wanna take a mild ph to gain at least 10 more pounds thats it then ill be happy for life but ive been stuck at this fucking weight so i want to take epistane im not gunna be stupid and take superdrol like ive seen kids doing at my school one kid started take 40 milligrams of superdrol a day without pct and without support

 

[thespider12]

and i dont wanna mess with harsh steroids even though epistane is a steroid its very mild dbol is to harsh

 

[dieseljimmy]

the only thing I like about this post is syntha 6.

look if you are calling yourself a kid.... no aas, no PH, no peptides.

If your a genetic freak and a possible pro body builder, go right for the good stuff, fuck what everyone else saids, start now. If you have any question in your mind that your not pro bb potential wait it out.

dude 18 years old. get ripped up and go get about strange ass. all they care about is abs anyway...

 

[thespider12]

but what about the cycle is there anything wrong with my cycle

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

pics?

 

[dieseljimmy]

pics?

Relentless.

 

[thespider12]

pics for what? and is there anything wrong with my cycle

 

[dieseljimmy]

but what about the cycle is there anything wrong with my cycle

Sorry I'm not versed enough on ph to say... No glaring issues

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

well at your age I was a big guy...so it kinda makes a little sense to take it to the next level...but if you are like most teens today.....skinny...or fat....or skinny fat....we don't even know if you have a clue about how to train...pics would help to clear things up....we have no idea if you are anywhere near the time to add drugs

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

getting a base first is a great idea

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

Sorry I'm not versed enough on ph to say... No glaring issues

ep is a steroid...not a ph

 

[thespider12]

i am very strong i always have been ive always been the skinny type but believe me i know how to train i am very strong i know this because sometime people stop at the gym to look at me lifting so much weight for my size

 

[thespider12]

i know its basically a steroids i know when i ingest it it turns into a steroids is there anything safer to take that is still hormonal that i can gain at least 10 pounds from though

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

don't take em

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

[h=3]Structure-What is Epistane[/h]Epistane is similar to DHT or winstrol in structure, so it is obvious why it has mild mass building effects. Epistane is a decent strength product, but won?t put a lot of size on you. The long term effects of epistane are unknown, so it is impossible to tell the long term side effects, but like most 17aMethyl steroids it may effect mood, cholesterol and liver enzymes.Even though many users report very mild gains, this steroid is still in the grey market. It?s important that anyone be over 21 before they use any prohormones, be in good health and avoid compounds like epistane that are 17aMethyl to help save your liver.Epistane is an anabolic steroid that can go by the nomenclatures 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol, 2a,3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan and a few other variations. Epistane is an effective anabolic for lean muscle gain and is also good because it does not convert to estrogen. It has also been reported to increase libido during its use.

 

[thespider12]

so what about another ph

 

[thespider12]

like h-drol

 

[independent]

i am very strong i always have been ive always been the skinny type but believe me i know how to train i am very strong i know this because sometime people stop at the gym to look at me lifting so much weight for my size

You sound jacked bro.

 

[thespider12]

hahaha no but i wanna become jacked

 

[dieseljimmy]

i know its basically a steroids i know when i ingest it it turns into a steroids is there anything safer to take that is still hormonal that i can gain at least 10 pounds from though

Kos is correct it's a real steroid. No conversion is required. I just think of it as a ph. Based on its legality...

 

[thespider12]

so what about h-drol

 

[independent]

Kos is correct it's a real steroid. No conversion is required. I just think of it as a ph. Based on its legality...

Its a steroid for sure. Studies have been done on its high affinity for absorbtion using it intra-anally.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

wow

 

[independent]

wow

Thats what i said when i read the study on pubmed.

 

[jay_steel]

kid your not eating enough period... You rely on liquid drinks to much. I stopped doing shakes periods and actually bake my protein in a solid form. Put them in baggies and eat them when needed. I am on zero carb so its just whey, two eggs, chocolate liquid egg whites and a lil almond mild. Mixed to a thick batter and then baked in a cupcake tray at 350 for 12 mins. You can also blend your oats to add in carbs which i will do when i go go to bulk. It fills me up longer as well. Either that or start pre cooking all your food buy a six pack and it takes 5 mins to eat a chick breast and a few hard boiled eggs vice a protein shake.

You have some good plans down though dont get me wrong but if your skinny you need to be eating more. My opinion is you will gain more in the long run if you wait. But unless your a genetic freak and have a chance to compete as a teen then shit go for it. But if your just doing to to look good wait, get your diet down. Save your money up and hire a trainer for your nutrition. That was the best thing I have ever done was have some one do my diets for me and tell me what I need to eat. I am prepping for a show with zero carbs and i have gained more lean muscle cutting then i did when i was bulking due to eating properly. Thats how shitty my diet was and I thought it was good.

 

[Vibrant]

You want to get big at whatever the cost and you eat less than 200 grams of protein per day?? Bitch please have you ever heard of eating food to get big?