1st cycle expectations?

[dedicated57]

HI IM NEW TO THIS SITE IT SEEMS GREAT. IM 18 NEVER USED STEROIDS IM 5'8 205LBS IVE BEEN WORKING OUT HARD FOR 3 YEARS I BENCH 365. FOR PAST YEAR IVE BEEN TRAINING EXTRA HARD BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM NEXT YEAR. I HAVE 100 DBOL PILLS AND 10 SUS250 VILES AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW I SHOULD USE THEM (ONE OR TWO VILES AWEEK? HOWMNYPILLS) AND WHAT GAINS I SHOULD EXPECT IN WEIGHT GAIN, BENCH INCREASES? IS IT WORTH EATING 2GRAMS PROTEIN PER POUND WHILE IN A CYCLE?SHOULD I GET ANOTHER 10 VILES SUS? ALSO HOW SAFE IS IT BUYING ROIDS ONLINE? ANY INFO ON NE OF THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREAT THNX ALOT ITS A TREMENDOUS HELP

 

[Mudge]

I would absolutely get another 10 amps, run 500mg a week, split those into two shots a week.

Expectations depends somewhat on how you eat, but 20-25 pounds would not be abnormal on such a cycle.

Safe to buy online? Thats like asking how safe is it to rob a liquor store, you may get away with it and you may not, its illegal period. I know of a dealer that went down due to a mere case of odds being against him, eventually one of his packages bust open and they discovered it was not HotWheels he was selling but gear, so he got busted.

I would get an amp breaker, I hate amps. I actually use a dremel on mine with a cutting wheel, works great, but still a pain.

 

[dedicated57]

THNX

 

[np25]

Need Information

I am a senior in college who plays baseball for an NAIA school. I am going to juice up over christmas break to prepare me to have a huge senior season. I have never taken steroids in my life so I have a few questions I hope I can get answered on here. One of my teammates last season had a monster year as a senior. He was always a very good hitter but he really took his game to another level last season. He just told me last week that he was on winstrol last season. He said his confidence and aggresion on the field where through the roof. I understand that winstrol is more for cutting up. I told my buddy I wanted to also gain some size if I was going to do it. He suggested taking anadrol and winstrol together so I can gain size and also avoid a lot of water weight. Is this the rout I should go? What is the price range I will be looking at. If I start over break and do a 12 week cycle how long will the aggresion, confidence and results last after I am off. I don't want do all this in December and January and then when my season starts in February be back to the way I was before I cycled. Do I need to do a cycle before the season and then do another one during the season? Do I need to get the stuff to prevent tits if I am only going to do a cycle or two? My last question is this, do any of you guys know of an athlete either in high school or college who juiced up and raised his game a level or two. This is something that I am doing for sure I am just trying to find out the best rout to take. Thank you very much.

 

[Mudge]

Check up on the detection times, I'd go with prop over sustanon.

http://www.anabolicreview.com/detect.php

 

[np25]

baseball player

NAIA doesn't drug test so I do not have to worry about that. What about my other questions? Success stories of other athletes while on the juice. One cycle or one before the season and one during. Do I need to get the stuff for tits if I am only going to do one or two cycles? Does winstrol and anadrol sound like a good combo? Would anadrol by itself do the trick? Thank you and sorry for all of the questions. I have been reading this board for several weeks now and decided to ask.

 

[Mudge]

Winstrol and Anadrol are pretty much opposites of each other. I personally refuse to ever touch winstrol, I dont think its worth damaging my tendons over using it when there are so many other things to have fun with, I already have tendon pain from doing deadlifts on back day, SLDL on leg day, and of course bicep day.

Anadrol should be stacked with an injectable otherwise you will kiss all those gains goodbye, I would go with test, seeing how test is the base of most every intelligent stack and all, why are you trying to reinvent the wheel when we know the wheel rolls fine.

Anadrol will turn you into "moonface" it is not exactly the choice for cutting, you can cut on anything you like frankly, but you are going to hold water like a buffalo on anadrol or almost any oral steroid other than winstrol/anavar. When using two 17aa items like winstrol/anadrol, you should probably be shooting the winstrol anyway, otherwise you have 4 passes through the liver right there which may or may not push your own liver into a bad place, without a blood test there is no way to know.

If you are simply looking to cut, prop + fina ED or EOD would be my choice.

Nolvadex is a good post cycle drug anyway, so I would have it on hand for gyno yes. It also depends greatly on your doses and your own predisposition to having man boobs, if you have a higher bodyfat then you are more likely to get it, if you are going above 500mg test a week then there is also a slight chance you could get it.

I know of a baseball player for UNLV on another board, but he didn't make it this year for some reason. He is 6'1" and 263 last I recall.

 

[np25]

more questions

Will I get moonface even if I am running everyday and eating right? I am not going to just be lifting I am also going to be conditioning everyday. Here is another question for you. Although I wouldn't get the size off of winstrol would I still get the extra confidence and aggresion? I have to pretty much stick with orals because we have roomcheck at my college and with the other stuff there is a greater chance it could get found.I also really don't want to give myself a shot if I can help it. I can hide pills much easier. Will one cycle before the season do the trick or should I also take a cycle during the season? Dude, sorry for the the repetitive stupid questions but I need the info and I have never did this before so I am a true rookie.

 

[Mudge]

Since Anadrols benefit is being the king of water retention (massive strength gains) I would say yes you will still hold water. Anadrol is expensive anyway over dianabol, if you are really looking for a water retention oral. Most water retention comes from aromitization, running isn't going to do dick about that.

Winstrol will shut down test production, and yet you have no test in your planned stack, bad move IMO.

Like I said, all your anadrol gains will go goodbye when used nearly by itself, winstrol is worthless in helping you.

If your not ready to inject then just leave the idea behind and stick to legal items.

 

[np25]

Last Question

Ok, last question and I will leave you alone. If you were in my shoes what would you do? I am 6'0" and weight between 185-188 pounds. I want to jucie so I can step my game up a couple of notches and I really, really crave the extra aggresion and extra confidence I have read and been told one gets from juice. I don't want to inject but the main reason for this is I am afraid I WILL MESS UP and do something very bad to myself. I just got finished reading an article about anadrol from on the net and I didn't realize how powerful it is. Here at school I don't know as much as I need to. Back home I have trusted friends who have juiced off an on for years using different kinds and they can give me knowledgable, honest advice. I don't want to get fat but at the same time if one uses steroids common sense says he wants to get big. I just don't want it to be a BIG GUT! I understand some water retention is going to happen I just don't want it to be a HUGE amount. When my season is going strong in March and April would I by then have lost the gains and aggresion I got in Dec. and Jan? Would I need to do another cycle during the season? Like I said earlier my buddies can show me how to inject if that is the only way to go. I would prefer not to but I will if I have to. Thank you and sorry for all the questions.

 

[Mudge]

Tell you what man, I get some self confidence but I dont have aggression. Now with fina I get occasional agression that I dump in the gym, but without doing an "aggression" drug like the boxers did (cheque drops) then forget the bullshit lies about steroid induced agression.

The best gains come from aromitizing drugs, so water retention is the name of the game. You will lose the gains starting Day 1 after anadrol cessation when there is no injectable test there to solidify things.

I would get some kind of firesafe box or something to put your goods in.

www.getpinz.com
www.spotinjections.com

 

[np25]

new info

I was just talking to a buddy back home who is knowledgable about roids and he suggested I take EQ I think it is also known as Boldoin or something like that. I seen where I could get it on the net in a bottle of 60 pills for like $59.95 but it is on sale for $30 something. Does this sound like a good deal? Does the sale price seem to low? What is your opinion on this type of steroid? My buddy said this is the best kind as far as having a happy medium between positive results and minimal side effects. Also would you personally order steroids off of the net? How safe is it? The site I seen it on was a sports nutrition website. Once again thank you very much man.

 

[Mudge]

Equipoise (BOLDENONE UNDECYLENATE) is not an oral steroid, I can only assume you are looking at legal stuff, Equipoise is a horse steroid it is not legal for human use.

I would stack it with test still, its not going to be spanctacular by itself, known for good appetite gains and vascularity, RBC increase.

A sports nutrition website will not peddle illegal steroids, you are looking at legal stuff using the name to fool you into thinking you will get the same gains off it.

 

[Flex]

np25, you obviously have no idea about anything to do with steroids.

i suggest you do some serious research first before even considering it.

Most people (i don't know if you fall into this category, but you kinda seem like you do), who want to take steroids, are looking for the "quick fix". They want only pills (cuz they're afraid of needles), and expect incredible results.

People don't just take steroids and boom, you are huge and/or ripped all of a sudden. YOu gotta train, eat and sleep right also. I wuold worry about getting those things down first, cuz without a well built base, steroiids arent gonna do shit for you, plus the fact that you don't know anything about them (not to sound like a dick, just telling how it is bro)

check this site out........http://anabolicreview.com/main.php

Plus Mudge is right, you don't get extra aggressive and self confidence from steroids, those are b.s. rumors. Self confidence comes from the "betterment of your body", which is more easily attained from steroids. Want aggressiveness? Listen to some Pantera and watch Rocky.

do some research first man, then decide if their right for you.

 

[np25]

Thanks for all the input and help guys. You guys are right I don't have much knowledge of steroids. I do however have plenty of knowledge of lifting weights. I have been lifting for years. As far as the increased self confidence goes it might not be proven that one gets extra selfconfidence from them but I have been told by to many athletes over the years that they felt so much for confident it is like they were high on life. As far as roid rage goes I have been told by several users that it is bs. But I have been told by to many people that they felt more confident on it. Whether it is in their imagination or not I don't know but it still helped their performance and that is all that I am looking for. Once again I don't know much about steroids that is obvious and I am not trying to act like I do. That is why that I am on here. I eat right, condition and lift right. I am a senior in college and have thought about using steroids for the last two years. I have always put it off. Since this is the last year of my playing career I don't want to look back and think WHAT IF! I would really appreciate it if someone would simply tell me what I should take. Please put in in laymans terms so I can understand. If I am bigger and stronger that equals more bat speed, in baseball more bat speed equals hitting the ball harder. So balls that went to the warning track will go out, balls that I foul straight back and barely miss will be hit hard somewhere. I am not looking for the quck fix because nobody works harder on their game than I do. I am however looking for so help that I can't get naturally. Once again thank you very much for you help and input.

np25

 

[Flex]

check out that website a few times per day, it'll really help you out. check out the novice cycles and read up on the steroid profiles......

AS far as what to take, you will not want to do an oral-only cycle, again, you'd lose most of your gains as they bring about waterweight that you lose once you go "off". Thus you gotta take an oral with an injectable (test is best, but there are others also). if you won't/can't do an injectable, don't bother man, its not worth the time and money. A typical beginner stack is dbol (oral) and test (injectable)(...either a single esther, or 4 combined such as sust or omnadren). you'll learn more about them when you read the website.

the self confidence again, comes from the quicker results you get. When your "on", (orals like dbol, anadrol), you get insane pumps, making you feel huge, thus making you feel more confident. Plus the increased strenght you experience is going to make you feel more confident. Don't take steroids thinking your going to feel more self confident, its what you get outta the gym that does that.

From my experience with baseball, stronger guys don't neccesarily hit the ball harder, better hitters do. Steroids may increase strength, thus increasing your power, but i always figured a better swing would improve that.........

 

[Mudge]

I feel pretty damn good on test, and many have said dianabol gives them mild euphoria, but the aggression is by far and large bs.