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Originally posted by Twin Peak
That sounds better. I honestly don't know their diets by heart, but in general I think they are well founded, contain sufficient amounts of protein (if I think you didn't have enough for a cut imagine my thoughts now knowing its a bulk), and have good energy sources.

Mainly when I have discussed their diets I have simply said that it is not the optimal diet for everyone (I believe that some people need more carbs, some need less fat, etc., so its basically a trial and error).

You could do this, especially if you have had success.

Another option would be to work in my comments, above.

IMO, the only difference in a pre contest bulk and the precontest cut are total cals. The only diff being (again in my opinion) that you can have more fruit and perhaps dairy, which you don't want anyway.

Otherwise you should be eating clean. Depending on your metabolism you can/should be 200-500 kcals above maint. now and 200 below maint on your cut.

Where is the freakin smilie? :lol:

I agree, very well said........the program is ALWAYS adapted for the individual! :D :p (but very narrowly, as insulin is always kept in check)





DP
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak

IMO, the only difference in a pre contest bulk and the precontest cut are total cals.

Interesting? :scratch: I thought carbs AND cals were impt. I see some even change carb sources from time to time too.

What about sugarfree jam? Smuckers makes 'm...
 
Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Where is the freakin smilie? :lol:

DP

Hey man, Rome wasn't built in a day!
 
Originally posted by lina
Interesting? :scratch: I thought carbs AND cals were impt.

Rember I am talking PRECONTEST bulk and cut. Not your regular 'ole bulk and cut. So IMO its just the cals. But thats just me.

And if you are 12 weeks out from a show I don't see why you'd be screwing around with sf stuff, preservatives, sauces (sf, no cal whatever), etc.

Perhaps its partially mental but I think when in this mode you need to be "looked in." In this mode I actually LIKE boiled chicken! Also, I think that the body works optimally when all that stuff (including diet soda, etc -- which I am a big fan off) is cut out. I know Rob is going to jump all over this since this is just an opinion and not based on studies etc, BUT when training for a show, even an additional 0.5% help is a plus.
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak

Perhaps its partially mental but I think when in this mode you need to be "looked in." In this mode I actually LIKE boiled chicken! Also, I think that the body works optimally when all that stuff (including diet soda, etc -- which I am a big fan off) is cut out. I know Rob is going to jump all over this since this is just an opinion and not based on studies etc, BUT when training for a show, even an additional 0.5% help is a plus.

OK, I agree 100% :yes:
 
I don't drink soda at all.

I try not to put acids in my stomach too often - I save those special occasions for my beer.
 
Ok then CD.

TP, if i cut out the jam and all my sugar i am going to drop bf like a mother effer. I am one of those genetically lean freaks, i have been at 13% for the past 3 months and i havent followed any diet what so ever. If i eat this diet for one week (no cheat) i bet you that i will be down 1% and i dont want to drop anything right now.
 
Originally posted by w8lifter
Then eat more (clean) food!

W8, I think our opinions are like the tides, either we totally agree, or we can't agree on the time of day. :)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh, one last point: YOU ARE TWELVE WEEKS FROM STANDING ON A STAGE WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STARING AT YOU!!!
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak
W8, I think our opinions are like the tides, either we totally agree, or we can't agree on the time of day. :)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

:laugh: Yeah...I think you're right :D We seem to be on a roll lately :p

Oh, one last point: YOU ARE TWELVE WEEKS FROM STANDING ON A STAGE WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STARING AT YOU!!!

:thumb:
 
Hi J'Bo,
Just wanted to say that it is good to see you back. I have still been around but more lurking. I have all the knowledge that you helped me with in the past regarding diet and a good training program, now I just have to be consistent with it.
Anyways, good luck in your future goals...
Joe
 
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