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2009 Boston Red Sox
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Congrats to Jim Rice on making to the hall of fame.
It was long overdue though.
It was long overdue though.
Red Sox upset by Daisuke Matsuzaka going public with comments
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (CP) – 23 hours ago
BOSTON — Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona said the club is disappointed that sidelined pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka went public with his concerns on how the team is handling his training techniques.
Matsuzaka was 1-5 with an 8.23 earned-run average before going on the 15-day disabled list June 21 with a mild strained right shoulder. Last season, he was 18-3 with a 2.90 ERA.
Matsuzaka met with the team last Friday and is continuing his conditioning at Boston's spring-training complex in Fort Myers, Fla. Dice-K expressed his concern to a Japanese newspaper, and news of the interview broke in Boston on Tuesday.
He's in the third season of a US$52 million, six-year contract.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (CP) – 23 hours ago
BOSTON — Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona said the club is disappointed that sidelined pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka went public with his concerns on how the team is handling his training techniques.
Matsuzaka was 1-5 with an 8.23 earned-run average before going on the 15-day disabled list June 21 with a mild strained right shoulder. Last season, he was 18-3 with a 2.90 ERA.
Matsuzaka met with the team last Friday and is continuing his conditioning at Boston's spring-training complex in Fort Myers, Fla. Dice-K expressed his concern to a Japanese newspaper, and news of the interview broke in Boston on Tuesday.
He's in the third season of a US$52 million, six-year contract.
Red Sox land All-Star slugger Victor Martinez from Indians
Read more: Red Sox land All-Star slugger Victor Martinez from Indians
Epstien does it again.
I feel bad for the Cleveland fan....every year they give away a good player.
Read more: Red Sox land All-Star slugger Victor Martinez from Indians
Epstien does it again.
I feel bad for the Cleveland fan....every year they give away a good player.
Suffering from 'roid rage'
By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Columnist | July 31, 2009
David Ortiz lied to you. It seems safe to say that his entire Red Sox career is a lie.
And those life-changing Red Sox championships of 2004 and 2007? Are they forever tainted?
You bet.
A New York Times report yesterday disclosed that the names of Ortiz and Manny Ramírez appear on a list of players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003. A few hours after the news broke, Ortiz hit a game-winning home run in an 8-5 victory over the Oakland A???s at Fenway Park. Then he confirmed that the news report is accurate, and said he was going to look into the matter and have more to say later.
Red Sox Nation is stunned and saddened. Boston fans have taken great pleasure in harpooning the Yankees and their fans since the Sox??? historic comeback against the Bronx Bombers in the 2004 American League Championship Series. It was tons of fun to ridicule 21st century Yankee steroid cheats Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, Andy Pettitte, and Jason Giambi. When Alex Rodriguez was outed last winter, it was a national holiday for Red Sox hubris.
Now this.
What can Sox fans say in the wake of this news? It reminds me of a scene in ???The Sting?????? when con man Henry Gondorff (Paul Newman) gets himself into a high-stakes poker game with a raft of rich guys, including big-time gangster Doyle Lonnegan. Demonstrating masterful sleight of hand, Gondorff makes off with the pot. After the carnage, a frustrated Lonnegan tells his associate, ???What was I supposed to do? Call him for cheating better than me in front of the others???????
That???s pretty much the best argument for Sox fans now.
Our cheaters were better than your cheaters.
Nothing else flies. For the longest time the Sox flew under the radar of the steroid cloud. Big names fell, but the BoSox remained clean. The infamous Mitchell Report, compiled by former Maine senator George Mitchell, who happens to be Red Sox team ???Director?????? (fifth from the top on the team masthead), barely acknowledged the existence of the Boston ball club as an MLB franchise. When Ramírez was caught cheating this spring, it was easy for Sox fans to contend that Manny didn???t start juicing until he went to the Dodgers.
Now this. Big Papi, everybody???s favorite, is on the list of those who tested positive for PEDs in 2003 - which just happens to be the year that his career magically turned around.
Ortiz was an average player when the Sox picked him up before the 2003 season. He???d been a big strikeout guy with the Twins. He could hit an occasional homer, but had a big hole in his swing. He started the 2003 season on the bench, playing behind Jeremy Giambi.
Overnight he became a baseball Rambo. He was the Dominican Babe Ruth. He was the greatest clutch hitter in Sox history. He got all the big hits in 2004. In 2006, he hit 54 home runs, bouncing Jimmie Foxx from the Sox record book.
He wrote a book. He opened a restaurant. He kissed babies. He was the heart of the team. He was a gentleman and a gamer. We all loved him.
He was also outspoken about steroids.
This is what Ortiz said in Fort Myers, Fla., last Feb. 16: ???I know that if I test positive for using any kind of substance, I know that I???m going to disrespect my family, the game, the fans, and everybody, and I don???t want to be facing that situation. So what would I do? I won???t use it . . . you test everybody three, four times a year and that???s about it. You do what you got to do. Yeah, whatever they say. Ban them for a whole year.??????
It got headlines. Ortiz says one-year ban for players who test positive. It played well to the masses.
And now David Ortiz looks like one of the television evangelists who gets caught in a seedy motel with a hooker.
How could he have been so stupid? Or bold? He must have known. Players who tested positive in 2003 must have been told by the players association. Certainly, the PA should have destroyed the results, just like Nixon should have burned the tapes, but there was never any assurance the names would not leak. And there are still 100 guys who should be nervous about tomorrow and the next day. Hopefully, none of them have made comments like Ortiz made in Florida.
The timing and the numbers are particularly damning for Big Papi. He was ordinary before 2003. Then he cheated. Then he was great. Now there is testing and he is less than ordinary. You don???t need Jose Canseco to connect the dots.
As for Manny, what is left to say? When he got caught this year, Sox fans wanted to believe he started cheating after he left Boston. Now his entire career is flushed down the toilet. Along with Ortiz.
It???s horrible.
No more innocence.
No more fairy tales.
The 2004 Red Sox really were Idiots. Just like the Yankees and everybody else.
Our cheaters were better than their cheaters.
Yahoo.
By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Columnist | July 31, 2009
David Ortiz lied to you. It seems safe to say that his entire Red Sox career is a lie.
And those life-changing Red Sox championships of 2004 and 2007? Are they forever tainted?
You bet.
A New York Times report yesterday disclosed that the names of Ortiz and Manny Ramírez appear on a list of players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003. A few hours after the news broke, Ortiz hit a game-winning home run in an 8-5 victory over the Oakland A???s at Fenway Park. Then he confirmed that the news report is accurate, and said he was going to look into the matter and have more to say later.
Red Sox Nation is stunned and saddened. Boston fans have taken great pleasure in harpooning the Yankees and their fans since the Sox??? historic comeback against the Bronx Bombers in the 2004 American League Championship Series. It was tons of fun to ridicule 21st century Yankee steroid cheats Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, Andy Pettitte, and Jason Giambi. When Alex Rodriguez was outed last winter, it was a national holiday for Red Sox hubris.
Now this.
What can Sox fans say in the wake of this news? It reminds me of a scene in ???The Sting?????? when con man Henry Gondorff (Paul Newman) gets himself into a high-stakes poker game with a raft of rich guys, including big-time gangster Doyle Lonnegan. Demonstrating masterful sleight of hand, Gondorff makes off with the pot. After the carnage, a frustrated Lonnegan tells his associate, ???What was I supposed to do? Call him for cheating better than me in front of the others???????
That???s pretty much the best argument for Sox fans now.
Our cheaters were better than your cheaters.
Nothing else flies. For the longest time the Sox flew under the radar of the steroid cloud. Big names fell, but the BoSox remained clean. The infamous Mitchell Report, compiled by former Maine senator George Mitchell, who happens to be Red Sox team ???Director?????? (fifth from the top on the team masthead), barely acknowledged the existence of the Boston ball club as an MLB franchise. When Ramírez was caught cheating this spring, it was easy for Sox fans to contend that Manny didn???t start juicing until he went to the Dodgers.
Now this. Big Papi, everybody???s favorite, is on the list of those who tested positive for PEDs in 2003 - which just happens to be the year that his career magically turned around.
Ortiz was an average player when the Sox picked him up before the 2003 season. He???d been a big strikeout guy with the Twins. He could hit an occasional homer, but had a big hole in his swing. He started the 2003 season on the bench, playing behind Jeremy Giambi.
Overnight he became a baseball Rambo. He was the Dominican Babe Ruth. He was the greatest clutch hitter in Sox history. He got all the big hits in 2004. In 2006, he hit 54 home runs, bouncing Jimmie Foxx from the Sox record book.
He wrote a book. He opened a restaurant. He kissed babies. He was the heart of the team. He was a gentleman and a gamer. We all loved him.
He was also outspoken about steroids.
This is what Ortiz said in Fort Myers, Fla., last Feb. 16: ???I know that if I test positive for using any kind of substance, I know that I???m going to disrespect my family, the game, the fans, and everybody, and I don???t want to be facing that situation. So what would I do? I won???t use it . . . you test everybody three, four times a year and that???s about it. You do what you got to do. Yeah, whatever they say. Ban them for a whole year.??????
It got headlines. Ortiz says one-year ban for players who test positive. It played well to the masses.
And now David Ortiz looks like one of the television evangelists who gets caught in a seedy motel with a hooker.
How could he have been so stupid? Or bold? He must have known. Players who tested positive in 2003 must have been told by the players association. Certainly, the PA should have destroyed the results, just like Nixon should have burned the tapes, but there was never any assurance the names would not leak. And there are still 100 guys who should be nervous about tomorrow and the next day. Hopefully, none of them have made comments like Ortiz made in Florida.
The timing and the numbers are particularly damning for Big Papi. He was ordinary before 2003. Then he cheated. Then he was great. Now there is testing and he is less than ordinary. You don???t need Jose Canseco to connect the dots.
As for Manny, what is left to say? When he got caught this year, Sox fans wanted to believe he started cheating after he left Boston. Now his entire career is flushed down the toilet. Along with Ortiz.
It???s horrible.
No more innocence.
No more fairy tales.
The 2004 Red Sox really were Idiots. Just like the Yankees and everybody else.
Our cheaters were better than their cheaters.
Yahoo.
It's a good one.
Francona knew his chances with Smoltz were slim.
Francona knew his chances with Smoltz were slim.
At least they kept Billy Traber.
I had to step away from the screen a few times.
The Yankees were never as bad as he made them out to be.
I love to come back to old threads and prove him wrong....I think he's still mad at me for it.
I really like this going back and forth with him, he is knowledgeable but his hatred blinds him and I think he relies too much on Fantasy baseball for info.
I love to come back to old threads and prove him wrong....I think he's still mad at me for it.
I really like this going back and forth with him, he is knowledgeable but his hatred blinds him and I think he relies too much on Fantasy baseball for info.
Jason Bay has gone nuclear this week. It's about time that ass bandit is hitting again.
He was hurt wasn't he?
He was a good pick up for Boston.
He was a good pick up for Boston.
Ortiz has been dropped to 7th in the lineup tonight. 'Bout time he got some sort of demotion.
3. Victor Martinez, 1B
4. Jason Bay, LF
5. J.D. Drew, RF
Drew still sucks. *sigh*
3. Victor Martinez, 1B
4. Jason Bay, LF
5. J.D. Drew, RF
Drew still sucks. *sigh*
I really thought Drew was going to put up some good numbers there.
Bay has been good for you guys though.
Bay has been good for you guys though.
Reds deal Gonzalez to Red Sox
Injury-plagued shortstop dealt back to Boston
Reds deal Gonzalez to Red Sox | MLB.com: News
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com
CINCINNATI -- Gonzo is the latest Reds veteran to be gone.
Shortstop Alex Gonzalez cleared waivers and was traded by the Reds to the Red Sox on Friday for Minor League shortstop Kris Negron.
"The Red Sox had interest in Gonzo and have had problems at shortstop," Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said. "We viewed this as an opportunity for him to play for a contender in a possible playoff situation."
To take Gonzalez's place on the 25-man roster, the Reds called up first baseman Kevin Barker from Triple-A Louisville. The plan is to have young players Paul Janish and Adam Rosales take up most of the playing time at shortstop.
Jocketty said there were no immediate plans to call up either top shortstop prospects -- Chris Valaika at Louisville or Todd Frazier at Double-A Carolina.
"Not right now," Jocketty said. "We think they should stay down and keep developing."
Gonzalez signed a three-year, $14 million contract with the Reds as a free agent before the 2007 season. He missed a significant portion of his tenure in Cincinnati with injuries, including the entire 2008 with a compression fracture in his left knee that required surgery.
In 68 games this season, Gonzalez is batting .210 with three home runs and 26 RBIs. From June 20-July 23, Gonzalez was on the disabled list because he needed right elbow surgery to remove some bone chips.
Gonzalez, who has a $6 million club option for the 2010 season that carries a $500,000 buyout, played for the Red Sox in 2006 and was with the Marlins from 1998-2005.
Since July 31, the Reds have dealt Jerry Hairston Jr., Edwin Encarnacion, David Weathers and Gonzalez.
In 111 games for Class A Salem, Negron batted .264 with three home runs and 34 RBIs. The Reds will assign him to Class A Sarasota.
"We got a young player back that we like," Jocketty said. "He has average-to-better tools in every category. We'll see what happens."
In 100 games for Louisville, Barker batted .284 with 22 homers and 68 RBIs.
"He's done a great job at Triple-A the past couple of years," Jocketty said. "This will give Dusty a hot left-handed bat off the bench."
Injury-plagued shortstop dealt back to Boston
Reds deal Gonzalez to Red Sox | MLB.com: News
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com
CINCINNATI -- Gonzo is the latest Reds veteran to be gone.
Shortstop Alex Gonzalez cleared waivers and was traded by the Reds to the Red Sox on Friday for Minor League shortstop Kris Negron.
"The Red Sox had interest in Gonzo and have had problems at shortstop," Reds general manager Walt Jocketty said. "We viewed this as an opportunity for him to play for a contender in a possible playoff situation."
To take Gonzalez's place on the 25-man roster, the Reds called up first baseman Kevin Barker from Triple-A Louisville. The plan is to have young players Paul Janish and Adam Rosales take up most of the playing time at shortstop.
Jocketty said there were no immediate plans to call up either top shortstop prospects -- Chris Valaika at Louisville or Todd Frazier at Double-A Carolina.
"Not right now," Jocketty said. "We think they should stay down and keep developing."
Gonzalez signed a three-year, $14 million contract with the Reds as a free agent before the 2007 season. He missed a significant portion of his tenure in Cincinnati with injuries, including the entire 2008 with a compression fracture in his left knee that required surgery.
In 68 games this season, Gonzalez is batting .210 with three home runs and 26 RBIs. From June 20-July 23, Gonzalez was on the disabled list because he needed right elbow surgery to remove some bone chips.
Gonzalez, who has a $6 million club option for the 2010 season that carries a $500,000 buyout, played for the Red Sox in 2006 and was with the Marlins from 1998-2005.
Since July 31, the Reds have dealt Jerry Hairston Jr., Edwin Encarnacion, David Weathers and Gonzalez.
In 111 games for Class A Salem, Negron batted .264 with three home runs and 34 RBIs. The Reds will assign him to Class A Sarasota.
"We got a young player back that we like," Jocketty said. "He has average-to-better tools in every category. We'll see what happens."
In 100 games for Louisville, Barker batted .284 with 22 homers and 68 RBIs.
"He's done a great job at Triple-A the past couple of years," Jocketty said. "This will give Dusty a hot left-handed bat off the bench."
It's the Bosox against Texas!
Go Texas!!
Go Texas!!
So happy the Cards didnt spend any more money on this injury waiting to happen!
Drew's grand slam in game six of the 2007 ALCS made his entire contract worth it.
Effing Blue Jays.
Buchholz vs Halladay tonight.
Buchholz is pitching well but he keeps running into opposing teams' aces. Justin Verlander, CC Sabathia (gay), and now Halladay. It doesn't help him that the Sox can not hit good pitching. Another CG win for Halladay tonight.
Buchholz is pitching well but he keeps running into opposing teams' aces. Justin Verlander, CC Sabathia (gay), and now Halladay. It doesn't help him that the Sox can not hit good pitching. Another CG win for Halladay tonight.
Papelbon has turned into a Mitch Williams type closer. He usually gets the save but walks the damn tightrope every time.
