26 too young...?

[ShreddedOatz]

Been feeling lately like I'm just going through the damn motions in the gym....Been training for about 8 years. Trying to get a little pep back in the step and am thinking about pro hormones, been doing a lot of research and was going to give a mild a go. Just questioning if I should hold off or go for it with a proper cycle and PCT. Anyone got any advice for a mild/cheap pro hormone stack as well as a good PCT? Just trying to gather as much info. as possible as well as options.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

 

[Vibrant]

bro, I've told you in your other thread, If its an anabolic related question you'll get more help in the anabolic section.

But to answer your question, I'd suggest waiting until you're comfortable doing a proper cycle and pct.

 

[OfficerFarva]

I don't understand how people think taking "pro hormones" is a safer alternative to running test.

 

[LAM]

what kind of gains have you made in the past 8 years? newbies to resistance training should easily be able to add 40-50 lbs on the scale (of mostly LBM) in the first decade w/o anything except a high calorie diet and some OTC supps. the longer you have been training the slower gains occur as you reach the bodies natural genetic potential.

 

[Tuco]

Bro, prohormones are shit IMO, don't waste your time, money, and liver lol. Some of those PH's do as much if not more damage to your organs than illegal orals.

If you feel you're ready, jump on a little test... 10-12 weeks test only 300-600mgs a week.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

what kind of gains have you made in the past 8 years? newbies to resistance training should easily be able to add 40-50 lbs on the scale (of mostly LBM) in the first decade w/o anything except a high calorie diet and some OTC supps. the longer you have been training the slower gains occur as you reach the bodies natural genetic potential.

I've made some really good gains up until about a year ago I just feel like I've kind of hit a wall with both size and strength...when I do a bulking and gain some weight my strength is the same and then I will cut and lose strength, I mix my routines up but just can never mange to get that extra strength and gains I'm looking for, my training intensity,nutrition,rest, are all there.....

 

[MyK]

what does your routine and diet look like???

 

[juicespringsteen]

what does your routine and diet look like???

X2.. and what's your current stats?

 

[secdrl]

Bro, prohormones are shit IMO, don't waste your time, money, and liver lol. Some of those PH's do as much if not more damage to your organs than illegal orals.

If you feel you're ready, jump on a little test... 10-12 weeks test only 300-600mgs a week.

I ran two seperate Superdrol cycles and had impressive results, IMO.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

I got my current routine and stats on in my log going heavy right now

 

[Tuco]

I ran two seperate Superdrol cycles and had impressive results, IMO.

Yea, I'm not arguing the effectiveness of superdrol, it's probably up there with anadrol, toxicity too. But would you run a cycle of just anadrol with out a test base? Running sd or a bombs without test isn't the way to go.....

If he really wanted to do PH's for maybe legal or ethical considerations, maybe halodrol would be a good choice. But in the end, test only cycles look the best for a beginner whose ready and mature enough to start using AAS. Not designer PH's or designer steroids...

 

[Sheer]

could you give us more about last 8 years,I am waiting,bro,thanks!

 

[Gissurjon]

I've made some really good gains up until about a year ago I just feel like I've kind of hit a wall with both size and strength...when I do a bulking and gain some weight my strength is the same and then I will cut and lose strength, I mix my routines up but just can never mange to get that extra strength and gains I'm looking for, my training intensity,nutrition,rest, are all there.....

You might just have to be patient. A year is not a very long time.

 

[OfficerFarva]

26, you're good to go. Most guys here started in their early twenties but will preach for you to wait till you hit your potential lol. I'd only take that advice if you have plans on competing or something along those lines.


And drop the retarded pro hormone run and do this http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

 

[PappyMason]

26, you're good to go. Most guys here started in their early twenties but will preach for you to wait till you hit your potential lol. I'd only take that advice if you have plans on competing or something along those lines.


And drop the retarded pro hormone run and do this http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

so true

 

[ShreddedOatz]

I'm gonna try the 1 andro and 4 andro for 4 weeks and then the arom x for pct, it's a mild stack through AMS supplements I think...

 

[OfficerFarva]

I'm gonna try the 1 andro and 4 andro for 4 weeks and then the arom x for pct, it's a mild stack through AMS supplements I think...

Why do you even ask for advice if you're just going to do your own thing anyways?

 

[Ezskanken]

I was dead set on running a pro hormone only cycle. Got everything I needed, and then realized how much money I could have saved if I just went with a straight up test cycle and pct, even if it was "research" grade which is still pretty damn good. Sold almost all of my ph stuff so I could stock up on some goodies. Still waiting for some to show, but we'll see.

 

[redz]

Why do people insist on runnign pro-hormones, forget that stuff and just go to the real deal.

 

[OfficerFarva]

Why do people insist on runnign pro-hormones, forget that stuff and just go to the real deal.

Most likely they aren't that intelligent and educated.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

Why do you even ask for advice if you're just going to do your own thing anyways?

wasn't planning on running that shit but just seems to be what I'm looking for. Wanted to do an oral, gain about 15 lbs of some good bulk hopefully, pretty mild stack, low sides, legal, and its only a 4 wk stack...I don't know bro just want that extra somethin somethin without having to worry about a crazy stack and PCT...

 

[ShreddedOatz]

Most likely they aren't that intelligent and educated.

Educated in this shit no...intelligent yeah. Have already learned a ton being here and plan on continuing with that. Being intelligent has nothing to do with being uneducated with this kind of stuff...stupid fuck

 

[OfficerFarva]

Educated in this shit no...intelligent yeah. Have already learned a ton being here and plan on continuing with that. Being intelligent has nothing to do with being uneducated with this kind of stuff...stupid fuck

Go run some M1T you moron.

 

[redz]

I have run in to more people with problems from pro-hormones than steroids in my time. People get this idea they are safer which is totally false.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

I have run in to more people with problems from pro-hormones than steroids in my time. People get this idea they are safer which is totally false.

Good to know, even with smaller doses for a short period of time?

 

[bigbenj]

I ran Methadrol Extreme by IML for my first go at anything "enhanced". I loved it.
I would agree, test would be the better option of the two, IMO, but you can still get good results with some of the PH's/Designers out there.

I know some people just don't feel ready to take the plunge into injectables for whatever reason. Comfort, legality, etc..

Get yourself a bottle of IML's Advanced Cycle Support, to help with liver protection and blood pressure. Also, make sure to drink plenty of water.

 

[ShreddedOatz]

Go run some M1T you moron.

Go run your mouth somewhere else....Neg me for trying to gather info. and learn, haha what a faggot. IDGAF

 

[OfficerFarva]

It was obvious you were half retarded from the beginning, posting an Anabolic question in the Open Chat section

 

[~RaZr~]

Go run some M1T you moron.

I'd say 30-40 mg sounds about right