2nd Cycle opinions please?

[Thracian]

Great board BTW guys!

Wanted to see if my next cycle needs tweaking and what everyone thinks please.

This is my second cycle. 1st was last Sept. I ran it with a couple small breaks through March this year. Ran 500mg test e. Ramped up to 1000 by the time it ended. I quit gaining so I dropped to a bridge of 200mg test/week for a couple months that I'm doing now. Gained about 20lbs. I'm 49, 5'8" 200lbs. About 12-13% bf so my goal is to lean out slightly while gaining whatever additional mass I can.

Weeks 1-16 750mg test e
300mg Tren enanthate
300 Deca

T3 throughout
Arimidex throughout
Dostinex throughout
HCG 250iu's 2 X week

Thanks.

 

[redflash]

How long have you been training?

When did you take your last gear? Rule of thumb is time on (inc PCT) = time off. Six months on with "a couple of small breaks" sounds like (a) far too long and (b) loose cycle management.

Most folk here would recommend a solid cycle of 8-10 weeks not 16.

That's a lot of gear for a second cycle. HCG and Arimidex on cycle are fine for keeping water retention down and balls up. Arimidex dose?

 

[jasone]

Way too much for a novice. You only need about 400mgs/wk for an eight - ten week cycle. Too much can actually work against your goals. Hope your training and diet are tight. I see kids blow up like balloons and shrink like prunes wondering wtf happened to their gains. Too much too fast can leave one dissapointed and broke. Hope you kids have a good reason for these types of drugs. Scares the shit out of me.

 

[GFR]

Great board BTW guys!

Wanted to see if my next cycle needs tweaking and what everyone thinks please.

This is my second cycle. 1st was last Sept. I ran it with a couple small breaks through March this year. Ran 500mg test e. Ramped up to 1000 by the time it ended. I quit gaining so I dropped to a bridge of 200mg test/week for a couple months that I'm doing now. Gained about 20lbs. I'm 49, 5'8" 200lbs. About 12-13% bf so my goal is to lean out slightly while gaining whatever additional mass I can.

Weeks 1-16 750mg test e
300mg Tren enanthate
300 Deca

T3 throughout...how are you running this?
Arimidex throughout
Dostinex throughout....I never used this so I don't know
HCG 250iu's 2 X week....I would start this week 6 or so...depending on how you react

Thanks.

Looks good to me, are you on HRT also?

 

[Thracian]

How long have you been training?

When did you take your last gear? Rule of thumb is time on (inc PCT) = time off. Six months on with "a couple of small breaks" sounds like (a) far too long and (b) loose cycle management.

Most folk here would recommend a solid cycle of 8-10 weeks not 16.

That's a lot of gear for a second cycle. HCG and Arimidex on cycle are fine for keeping water retention down and balls up. Arimidex dose?

Thanks. Yeah (b) is definitely correct. I intended to do 10 weeks and just never came off.
Arimidex at about .25 a day.

 

[Thracian]

Way too much for a novice. You only need about 400mgs/wk for an eight - ten week cycle. Too much can actually work against your goals. Hope your training and diet are tight. I see kids blow up like balloons and shrink like prunes wondering wtf happened to their gains. Too much too fast can leave one dissapointed and broke. Hope you kids have a good reason for these types of drugs. Scares the shit out of me.

Kid? I'll be 50 years old next month! You made my day!
Thanks for the advice, what do you mean by "types" of drugs. I'd like to hear you elaborate please.

 

[Thracian]

Looks good to me, are you on HRT also?

Thanks. Yeah I don't plan on ever doing less than about 200mg test a week.
T3 also. I started a cycle sometime back and felt so much better I've stayed on a dose of 25mcg T4/25mcg T3. I feel I must have a latent hypothyroid condition I wasn't aware of. I'll ramp it up periodically for fat burn.

 

[luke69duke69]

Have you talked , off the record, to a doctor at all or gotten any bloodwork done? Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't staying on cytomel for that long leave you pretty much dependent on it? Although as cheap as you can get cytomel normally it's not that terrible expensive...

 

[Tough Old Man]

Thanks. Yeah I don't plan on ever doing less than about 200mg test a week.
T3 also. I started a cycle sometime back and felt so much better I've stayed on a dose of 25mcg T4/25mcg T3. I feel I must have a latent hypothyroid condition I wasn't aware of. I'll ramp it up periodically for fat burn.

ASAP check your body temp. If normal, get off the T-3 for about 2-3 weeks. Then check your body temp again for 3 days upon awakening. If your temp is running low, it's the gear doing it and T-3 is needed to bring it back in range.

I'm almost close to 54. When I cycle my body temp goes down between 95.4 - 97.1. The T-3 brings it back to normal. My Temp is fine when not cycling and T-3 is not needed.


Tough

 

[luke69duke69]

Hey tough, I'm not stepping on your toes, but is that partially due to your age? or just gear in general. I haven't taken my temp but I'm curious now as to if it's lower( I'm a self professed geek) since I'm two weeks on going into my third week.

 

[Thracian]

ASAP check your body temp. If normal, get off the T-3 for about 2-3 weeks. Then check your body temp again for 3 days upon awakening. If your temp is running low, it's the gear doing it and T-3 is needed to bring it back in range.

I'm almost close to 54. When I cycle my body temp goes down between 95.4 - 97.1. The T-3 brings it back to normal. My Temp is fine when not cycling and T-3 is not needed.


Tough

Will do. I'll post the results.