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ForemanRules said:
That's not accurate at all. Only 2 lineman in the NFL in 2006 can run under a 5.0 and the average is a 5.15 for a 295 guy. Most highschool guys 6'2 275+ can't run near a 5.0. Infact at 6'3 276 I ran a 5.8 and that's a school record.
I had two friends who were college football linemen, one was D1 the other was D2, one was 305 and ran a 5.0 40, the other was 265 and ran a 4.8.JordanMang said:
5.0 for a big guy in high school is a good time not the norm, I'm not talking about a fat slob at a class C school. And many linemen in the NFL run 5.0 or faster son.
You must play for the slowest school in the country.
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I don't even run the 40 and I could probably run a 5.0.
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That's bullshit...
http://rivals100.rivals.com/cpeventresult.asp?Key=30&Skill=1&Position=2
These are a listing of the results for the NIKE training camp in Athens, GA in 2005. These kids were high school juniors at the time of the tests and for the most part aren't over 275. This list consists of the only the top offensive lineman out of hundreds and even out of this elite group a handful get near the 5.0 mark. If you want average...5.0 is no where close.
http://rivals100.rivals.com/cpeventresult.asp?Key=30&Skill=1&Position=2
These are a listing of the results for the NIKE training camp in Athens, GA in 2005. These kids were high school juniors at the time of the tests and for the most part aren't over 275. This list consists of the only the top offensive lineman out of hundreds and even out of this elite group a handful get near the 5.0 mark. If you want average...5.0 is no where close.
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Right, obviously. But not any over 275. And 5.8 is a school record in the 250+ class. The average for my class is a 4.8 that's including backs and lineman all averaged in.
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You are right. Most good high school athletes do run below a 5.0 40; however, 5.0 seconds is not nearly an average time for 275+ offensive lineman. Also, those "slobs" have all moved on to careers in Division I college football.
kenwood said:ok anyway...do you guys have any tips on improving the 40? and i am playing football next year and i wanna be a Linebacker...do you guys have any advice?
learn good sprint technique
build strength in one block of training and then take that increase in strength and turn it into explosiveness via plyometrics.
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Actually most of them are redshirted Freshmen. It's no secret they're not where they need to be just fresh out of highschool, but most of them don't run near a 5.0 which is the point we were trying to get across. And if you want to get better at the 40 just run sprints. I improved my 40 by 4 seconds purely by doing 6-8 40 yard sprints 3-4 times a week. Plyometrics def. helps as P-funk stated.
HIgh school is fucked up...I was listed as 6'0" 195lbs and I was nowhere near that. The 40 is also pointless for a lineman, they are typically looking at 10yd times for linemen these days. They make them run a 40, but the first 10yds is what they look at, which is fucking dumb.
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During the Draft training camps all lineman are required to do is run 10 yard and 20 yard sprints and that's it. And they won't be doin that for OL Foreman just for DL guys. They want big fat mother fuckers on the OL at tackle and some slightly smaller slightly faster guys at guard and one big ass center.
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So you ran a 10 second 40?
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Oops, 4 10th's of a second.
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If you want to get faster at your 40 you have to find your weak points first. You should time your 10 yd, 20 yd and 40 yd dashes to find which segments of your 40 are the slowest. Your first ten yards should ideally be no more than six steps. Having good starting form and good running form will take tenths of a second off your 40. You can work with a sprint coach or find this information online because there is just too much to go into here. The 40 can be broken down into the smallest of details to work on. There is very little cause for you to run a 40 to improve your 40. The most important things to practice are start and running form. Of course you can always improve your sprinting strength but, for the most part, greater gains in speed come fastest from improving starting/running form.
Also, for offensive linemen, although they still test for the 40 in high school, most college coaches will say that they place more emphasis on the 20 yard shuttle and the 10 yard dash than the 40.
Also, for offensive linemen, although they still test for the 40 in high school, most college coaches will say that they place more emphasis on the 20 yard shuttle and the 10 yard dash than the 40.
http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=134&pid=224
Do some reading. This book probably has a lot of good information on technique and such.
Do some reading. This book probably has a lot of good information on technique and such.
MJGomez said:
Two words...Speed Endurance....As in you will have none if you don't run the full 40 on a relatively routine basis.
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dude.
i'm a freshman lineman.
i'm 6'0.
and i ran a 4.8 at the begining of the school year.( and, considering the fact that i was running in my socks and not cleats, you can bet that i probably would have ran a 4.6).
how much do you weigh though?
bull shit.
plyometrics don't just make you faster (like magic). if you don't have a strength base, you have no ability to adequately produce force and progress.
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I didn't say anything about them working like magic, why don't you read on them a bit before you go and criticize what I have to say, they are to build explosive muscle movement. Like "sprinting" for example, or jumping, or throwing ect. Although powerful legs are a key to running, but you don't want to be to muscle bound, if you are, you will be slower. Won't be able to jump as high, or throw as fast of far, that's why MLB pitchers are not huge and bulky, NFL QB's aren't ripped, and Olympic sprinters aren't bulky. They are lean muscle mass. None of them are built like body builders. You want to work on your running for like I said, that's a real fast way to lower your time, take out any un-necessairy movement, and plyometrics, do some research on them if you are curious about them.
