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9/11=insidejob...this is for you

Yeah, intersting stuff. And for the other members on here speaking out for 9/11 Truth where were you when I was getting killed on those other threads! Sheesh...

Just kidding.

Regarding the Pentagon. I'm not suprised on bit that there's airplane wreckage there. Why? Because it was hit by a plane. Was it a 757? Every single fact says that's impossible.

Regarding the WTC and WTC. There are tons of firefighters and people there who say they heard explosives go off. I mean, just look at the way it collapsed, each floor had go give out in less than a second. Even the guys who made those buildings have no clue how they collapsed because it was designed to withstand that kind of damage and has several steel collumns.

Regarding the Govnt being to dumb to pull this off. Yeah the govnt is full of retards as proven by the Katrina distaster. But the govn't doesnt pull this off, they just give the orders and the military and intelligence community makes shit happen. The CIA, Pentagon, FBI, NSA (and so forth) are some of the best guys in the world and get billions upon billions upon billions of dollars each year. This is what they do for a living.
 
IainDaniel said:
Shut it Troll.....

I thought you learned Pepper. :laugh:
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Hey IanDaniel, your avatar suits you perfectly since it matches your personality so well. Now if you'll excuse us, people who actually have brains are trying to have an important discussion here.
 
Brains you call reading some conspiracy theory boards a brain. You have failed to make a decent argument.
 
IainDaniel said:
Brains you call reading some conspiracy theory boards a brain. You have failed to make a decent argument.
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Have you bothered to read my post on what hit the Pentagon or about the NORAD drills?
 
CowPimp said:
Don't forget the hours of videotape and thounsands of photographs that are still being withheld from the genreal public. Does that mean anything necessarily, no, but it's questionable.

There's the fact that the largest drill concerning hijacking planes ever was being conducted on that date. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I think an investigation is warranted.

FEMA's theory about the building collapse were later deemed implausible by the NIST's report. The NIST's theories ultimately required being toyed with by implementing unrealistic data in order to prove them "plausible." I find this odd.

No study of the buildings once they reached a state primed for collapse is also strange. You must consider the collapse of all three buildings, particularly building 7, should be very chaotic and random, yet exhibit the signs of controlled demolition. The chances of this occuring are astronomically low.

WTC7 is the first steel-framed building in history to collapse as a result of fires. Remember, this building was not hit by a plane. I know, there are firsts for everything, but I still feel it is an interesting fact when compiled together with the rest of the evidence.

There were pools of molten metal in the rubble and proof of evaporation after the attacks. This is not physically possible as a result of fires from jet fuel. The fires themselves don't even reach the temperatures that the steel would have to reach necessary to turn them molten and cause evaporation. Then you have to consider the fact that the fuel was only burning for a matter of minutes, the continued fires were burning office materials, and the temperatures reached when these items are ignited are nowhere near that of the temperature of burning jet fuel. To add to this, as I've already said, forensic evidence is now out there showing that there was the existence of a substance that is used in controlled demolitions to rapidly slice through structural steel in order to allow for a "clean" building demolition. This substance produces molten iron as a byproduct of its chemical reaction.

Multiple eyewitness accounts saw evidence of controlled demolition in the towers. There were flashes and explosions on the lower floors of the building before it collapsed up top.


Again, a further investigation is certainly called for in my opinion.
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I see your go some of beliefs from Steve Jones, his samples he got from some random lady, you dont think they could be tampered samples?
 
bigss75 said:
I see your go some of beliefs from Steve Jones, his samples he got from some random lady, you dont think they could be tampered samples?
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Professor Jones came to the conclusion that explosives brought down the WTC long before he tested those samples. He knew by just analyzing the footage. And those samples problalby weren't tampered with since thermite is not easy to grab a hold of. His collegues came to the same conclusion.
 
bigss75 said:
I see your go some of beliefs from Steve Jones, his samples he got from some random lady, you dont think they could be tampered samples?
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It's not some random lady. It was a lady in charge of creating a memorial to the incident using actual wreckage.

Even without that, how do you explain the pools of molten metal found at the site?
 
although all of this is extremely interesting and all , I don't believe that using evidence and trying to figure it out will do anything..there are so many variables in this situation that no one but god will know what truly went down on 9/11

I believe it is possible that if this was proven to be a conspiracy, this would not be good news for the United States, a revolution or something would probably break out

I really don't have a strong opinion on this because I cannot even begin to comprehend this whole situation, but it is nice once and a while to give your brain something to chew on
 
911=InsideJob said:
Hey IanDaniel, your avatar suits you perfectly since it matches your personality so well. Now if you'll excuse us, people who actually have brains are trying to have an important discussion here.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
bigss75 said:
I see your go some of beliefs from Steve Jones, his samples he got from some random lady, you dont think they could be tampered samples?
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Is this English?
 
IainDaniel said:
Brains you call reading some conspiracy theory boards a brain. You have failed to make a decent argument.
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You call this English??
 
ForemanRules said:
Illegal aliens
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Hey I drop them off whereever I feel it's convenient, the way I look at it I drop them off by Roswell and tell them to keep walking toward the chain link fence where they will find jobs. They do as they're told get too close to the gate the security force swoops down on them picks them up , takes them to the brain washing facility as they do any of the curious conspiracy theorists they find meddling around there, they reprogram them to be good upstanding citizens and release them back in different big cities around the nation where they go on to become small business owners or other well rounded citizens...
 
maniclion said:
Hey I drop them off whereever I feel it's convenient, the way I look at it I drop them off by Roswell and tell them to keep walking toward the chain link fence where they will find jobs. They do as they're told get too close to the gate the security force swoops down on them picks them up , takes them to the brain washing facility as they do any of the curious conspiracy theorists they find meddling around there, they reprogram them to be good upstanding citizens and release them back in different big cities around the nation where they go on to become small business owners or other well rounded citizens...
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everyone go to infowar.com and you'll find all the info you need to make better judgement. I'm not going to say who was involved, but when you learn a little more about our history, other than what's in our books, it'll piss you off.
 
Bigbricks and 911, do you guys know each other... :hmmm:
 
Pepper said:
Ah..a conspiracy theory involving the conspiracy nuts. Interesting. :D
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:laugh:
 
the nut said:
Bigbricks and 911, do you guys know each other... :hmmm:
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No, but he's right on the money directing everyone to Infowars.com. Prisonplanet.com is the other website run by Alex Jones.
 
not this b.s. again. i thought i died for some of you guys?
 
lnvanry said:
NORAD just released these tapes yesterday....what do you think of them 9/11=inside job?

http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01
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Not sure...looks intersting though. Here's another new story which came out today:


911 "Conspiracy Theorists" Vindicated: Pentagon deliberately misled Public Opinion
Military officials made false statements to Congress and to the 911 Commission
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=EGG20060802&articleId=2887


"Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate." (WP, 2 August 2006)
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"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."
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The U.S. Military was fooled on 9/11. Not only fooled but embarrassed in front of the rest of the world. I dont believe the military had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks.

9/11 showed a major hole in U.S national security. Is it possible the terrorists were helped out by people with the know-all? Probably. Who those people are, is an entirely different question. They might've been helped by someone who works for another country that happened to realize this huge exploit in american security. It could have been someone in the FAA, a civilian, or it could've been no one.

I find it very hard to believe that an american spy agency knew of the attacks and did nothing to stop them. In fact, I find it impossible. Did they know something with planes was going to happen? Probably. Did they take it seriously? Obviously not as much as they should have. Or maybe they did but couldn't do anything to protect the U.S.

Think about it, you know someone is going to hijack your planes soon, you dont know exactly when, where and more importantly what they are going to do. (flying them into the WTC and the pentagon not even in their minds at this point). You have no way of tracking them if they know how to turn of the transponder/beacon. No way of finding them amongst the 3000+ other commercial airliners in the air already. Once it gets to this point you have to rely on lucking out and picking out the right one, which is impossible.

Lets face it, these fuckers had all the time in the world to sit in their caves and exploit every single security measure (or in this case completely bypass the U.S. military's capability to defend itself). They had all the time in the world to think of this, and to be honest, if they wanted to hijack 50 planes they probably could've done it. We had no way of responding to this kind of attack. They simply outsmarted us.
 
It's funny how only one person has responded to the evidence I put forth.
 
CowPimp said:
It's funny how only one person has responded to the evidence I put forth.
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I don't mean to be rude but these theories are not worth the time it takes to read all of the links.

You are telling me the world is flat. It isn't. People are not ignoring the evidence b/c they are intimiated by it, they are ignoring it because the theories are absurd.
 
Pepper said:
I don't mean to be rude but these theories are not worth the time it takes to read all of the links.

You are telling me the world is flat. It isn't.
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*Sigh* Pepper, open your mind up a bit. You say how these theories are not worth the time and how you can't believe people could even think like this...........yet..................You believe in Christianity? And you think Jesus came from a virgin and that evolution is untrue. :scratch: Christianity is more of a theory to me than 9/11 is.

I don't mean to bring this across so harsh but your thinking isn't very logical here.
 
Jodi said:
*Sigh* Pepper, open your mind up a bit. You say how these theories are not worth the time and how you can't believe people could even think like this...........yet..................You believe in Christianity? And you think Jesus came from a virgin and that evolution is untrue. :scratch: Christianity is more of a theory to me than 9/11 is.

I don't mean to bring this across so harsh but your thinking isn't very logical here.
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I am simply not going there. Unbelievable.
 
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