9/11=insidejob...this is for you

[Jodi]

All I'm saying is open up your mind.

Oh and you know from several previous threads that I don't believe in Christianity

 

[lnvanry]

All I'm saying is open up your mind.

Oh and you know from several previous threads that I don't believe in Christianity

we'll pray for you

 

[911=InsideJob]

The U.S. Military was fooled on 9/11. Not only fooled but embarrassed in front of the rest of the world. I dont believe the military had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks.

9/11 showed a major hole in U.S national security. Is it possible the terrorists were helped out by people with the know-all? Probably. Who those people are, is an entirely different question. They might've been helped by someone who works for another country that happened to realize this huge exploit in american security. It could have been someone in the FAA, a civilian, or it could've been no one.

I find it very hard to believe that an american spy agency knew of the attacks and did nothing to stop them. In fact, I find it impossible. Did they know something with planes was going to happen? Probably. Did they take it seriously? Obviously not as much as they should have. Or maybe they did but couldn't do anything to protect the U.S.

Think about it, you know someone is going to hijack your planes soon, you dont know exactly when, where and more importantly what they are going to do. (flying them into the WTC and the pentagon not even in their minds at this point). You have no way of tracking them if they know how to turn of the transponder/beacon. No way of finding them amongst the 3000+ other commercial airliners in the air already. Once it gets to this point you have to rely on lucking out and picking out the right one, which is impossible.

Lets face it, these fuckers had all the time in the world to sit in their caves and exploit every single security measure (or in this case completely bypass the U.S. military's capability to defend itself). They had all the time in the world to think of this, and to be honest, if they wanted to hijack 50 planes they probably could've done it. We had no way of responding to this kind of attack. They simply outsmarted us.

-NORAD has the ablity to intercept any stray plane in the U.S. withing 5 minutes. In the year 2000 they intercepted like 15 planes or something all within 5 minutes- 100% accuracy. Yet on 9/11 when they're needed the most, over an hour went by and none of the planes were intercepted. On of the alleged planes even penetrated the most heavily guarded airspace in the world unchalled even after the WTC were hit. It was the wargames ordered by Cheney which helped distract NORAD as well as other stand down orders.

-Here's a fact: al-Qaeda has been penetrated by several world intelligence agencies since the mid-90's. That's confirmed by a former MI5 agent who went public (David Shayler). There was even a former Naval intel guy named Delmart Vreeland who wrote a note to his jailers in a Canadian prison that the WTC and Pentagon were going to be attacked on the week of 9/11. He talked about how al-Qaeda had been penetrated and that the govnt "let one happen, stop the rest", so that America has a threat.

-I don't believe that Atta and those other dudes were planning on hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings. Several of them recieved special ops training in a military base in Florida and others trainined in a CIA run camp in the Balkans, so right there you know they have govt ties. Atta and the others have been seen drinking the night before. It's a fact that some of them were even under servaillence and people in the FBI were specifically told not to arrest them.

 

[KelJu]

I am simply not going there. Unbelievable.

Wait a minute. You are too lazy to read the other side's evidence and try to see things from another perspective, but you want to throw in your worthless 2 cents repeatedly. You are too closed minded and stubborn to acknowledge that there is even the possibility.
Wow!

Btw, I don???t believe it either, but at least I looked into the other sides evidence.

 

[CowPimp]

I don't mean to be rude but these theories are not worth the time it takes to read all of the links.

You are telling me the world is flat. It isn't. People are not ignoring the evidence b/c they are intimiated by it, they are ignoring it because the theories are absurd.

It's not worth it? One of the most monumentally horrendous attacks in American history may potentially have lots of information regarding its circumstances hidden from us, and it's not worth the time?

Okay, whatever. It's people like you who are why things like this could get pulled off.

 

[911=InsideJob]

The U.S. government has a history of doing "false flag" operations (conduction attacks and blaming them on someone else).

Just look at Operation Northwoods:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

The Joint Chiefs of staff wanted to blow up American airliners and military bases just to blame it on Cuba as a pretext for war. Kennedy wanted no part of it but the plan was there.

The pretext for Vietnam was another red flag op. The govnt tried to claim that a naval ship was attacked when it just came out that it never was.

A few others as well...

 

[fUnc17]

-NORAD has the ablity to intercept any stray plane in the U.S. withing 5 minutes. In the year 2000 they intercepted like 15 planes or something all within 5 minutes- 100% accuracy. Yet on 9/11 when they're needed the most, over an hour went by and none of the planes were intercepted. On of the alleged planes even penetrated the most heavily guarded airspace in the world unchalled even after the WTC were hit. It was the wargames ordered by Cheney which helped distract NORAD as well as other stand down orders. Source? Nothing in this world is 100%

-I don't believe that Atta and those other dudes were planning on hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings. Several of them recieved special ops training in a military base in Florida and others trainined in a CIA run camp in the Balkans, so right there you know they have govt ties. Atta and the others have been seen drinking the night before. It's a fact that some of them were even under servaillence and people in the FBI were specifically told not to arrest them. ok this is stretching it. it is very well possible they were given help by few people, but as i've said, i HIGHLY doubt it was something everyone knew about. most likely it was a rogue person(s), not the entire administration. you are simply drawing ridiculous conclusions, just because one person helped them doesnt mean everyone knew.

i am confused, so are you saying the government helped the terrorists? or just let them attack the U.S.?

i find it hard to believe that you honestly think the U.S administration had any major part in a 9/11 conspiracy, if it was true by the slightest degree I wouldn't be living here anymore.

 

[911=InsideJob]

i am confused, so are you saying the government helped the terrorists? or just let them attack the U.S.?

i find it hard to believe that you honestly think the U.S administration had any major part in a 9/11 conspiracy, if it was true by the slightest degree I wouldn't be living here anymore.

The source for all those NORAD drills and posted a few pages back on this thread.

The general consencous amoungst "9/11 experts" is that none of the planes were ever hijacked and that Bush ordered 9/11 to happen. Former govnt, intelligance, and military people have said the same thing. It should also be noted that al-Qaeda, despite what the govnt is sayiing, CANNOT fuck with America. They've been penetrated to the fullest.

If you really wanna learn stuff I highly recommend the book Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert. Ruppert is a a former LAPD officer who dedicated his life to exposing govnt black ops after finding out that the CIA pumps billions of dollars of drugs into the U.S. each year. Regarding his book, he wrote it exaclty like a criminal prosecution where you are the juror, he's the prosector, and this administration is on trial. He sites close to 1,000 footnotes of mainstream sources and the book itself is around 500 pages. It talks about oil, drugs, govnt corruption, all to put 9/11 in context. Highly recomend it.

 

[the nut]

http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

There should be a debunking for every one of your conspiracy theories... I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just that it's not as black and white as you think.

 

[the nut]

It's funny how only one person has responded to the evidence I put forth.

http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php?t=118223

http://debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

http://debunking911.com/thermite.htm

 

[god hand]

When I asked 9/11=insidejob to make a thread about his theory a fuckin looooooooooooong time ago I throught he would just get flamed and never comeback.
Now I want you to reallllllllllllllllllllly think to yourself and your saying. There's no fuckin way that shit could get pulled off and no one say anything about it. The airplanes did get hijacked and they knew they where going to die when they hit the building, so the government couldnt have paid them

Look at how much money was lost because of those events. People was scared to get on airplanes and alot of compaines lost millions. What about all the Bin Laden tapes? Are they paying him too? (even I think they could find him if they wanted to)

Yes the government knew it could happen duh, but that doesnt mean it was going to. Shit a meteor could hit earth, but that dont mean its going to happen.

The government plain the attacks on the Twin Towers? Maybe, but why in the fuck would the government plain an attack on itself? Why would they attack the pentagon? lol Isnt that one of the main government buildings in the country? More than two hundred people died because of that shit. There is no question that they knew it was going to happen, but they did not plain the shit.

 

[GFR]

we'll pray for you

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[911=InsideJob]

When I asked 9/11=insidejob to make a thread about his theory a fuckin looooooooooooong time ago I throught he would just get flamed and never comeback.
Now I want you to reallllllllllllllllllllly think to yourself and your saying. There's no fuckin way that shit could get pulled off and no one say anything about it. The airplanes did get hijacked and they knew they where going to die when they hit the building, so the government couldnt have paid them

Look at how much money was lost because of those events. People was scared to get on airplanes and alot of compaines lost millions. What about all the Bin Laden tapes? Are they paying him too? (even I think they could find him if they wanted to)

Yes the government knew it could happen duh, but that doesnt mean it was going to. Shit a meteor could hit earth, but that dont mean its going to happen.

The government plain the attacks on the Twin Towers? Maybe, but why in the fuck would the government plain an attack on itself? Why would they attack the pentagon? lol Isnt that one of the main government buildings in the country? More than two hundred people died because of that shit. There is no question that they knew it was going to happen, but they did not plain the shit.

-Yeah America lost tons of money, but Bush and his friends made billions upon billions of dollars in the wars and the oil fields and so forth.

-The newer bin Laden tapes are fake. That's according to a former NSA agent and Reagans former CIA briefer. He's also been proven to have CIA contacts.

-A former Bush official came out saying that 9/11 was pulled off as a pretext for wars for oil and to roll back civil liberties.

-Yeah the Pentagon is of major importance but the side that was hit was under construction. No one "important" died in that atttack.

 

[911=InsideJob]

Hey "the nut", pick out something from you site and post it here...

How ironic is that!

 

[the nut]

Hey "the nut", pick out something from you site and post it here...

How ironic is that!

Come again?

 

[BigDyl]

I think 911 is winning the battle here.

 

[the nut]

Resistance is futile!

 

[911=InsideJob]

Ironic cuz your name is 'the nut'.

 

[maniclion]

Actually both stories are a lie, it was actually aliens in invisible space ships using tractor beams that guided each jet to it's final destination, then at the point of impact they sent infra-red laserbeams into the jets which made them capabale of crumbling each tower as if done by precision demolition teams. The Government doesn't want us to know that we are having a secret war with aliens so both stories have been conjured by our government to add to the confusion. Not to worry that last Space Shuttle that went up was a distraction technique to draw our attention away from the 1200 super-sonic Space F-16's that escaped into the atmosphere over the pacific ocean to battle it out with the aliens a few weeks ago, it's independence day the movie aall over again. That's why Pearl Harbor was full of the Worlds top Navy Ships because the Hawaiian Islands have a strong magnetic field that our government has used a secret technology to make it appear invisible to the Aliens, we are running Battle Station One from right here under the guise of a thing called Rim-Pac

SOURCE

 

[911=InsideJob]

Actually both stories are a lie, it was actually aliens in invisible space ships using tractor beams that guided each jet to it's final destination, then at the point of impact they sent infra-red laserbeams into the jets which made them capabale of crumbling each tower as if done by precision demolition teams. The Government doesn't want us to know that we are having a secret war with aliens so both stories have been conjured by our government to add to the confusion. Not to worry that last Space Shuttle that went up was a distraction technique to draw our attention away from the 1200 super-sonic Space F-16's that escaped into the atmosphere over the pacific ocean to battle it out with the aliens a few weeks ago, it's independence day the movie aall over again. That's why Pearl Harbor was full of the Worlds top Navy Ships because the Hawaiian Islands have a strong magnetic field that our government has used a secret technology to make it appear invisible to the Aliens, we are running Battle Station One from right here under the guise of a thing called Rim-Pac

SOURCE

I dunno man, the leprichan in my closet says otherwise...

 

[BigDyl]

I dunno man, the leprichan in my closet says otherwise...

Well, I think you've convinced me.


How old are you?

 

[fUnc17]

-Yeah America lost tons of money, but Bush and his friends made billions upon billions of dollars in the wars and the oil fields and so forth.

-The newer bin Laden tapes are fake. That's according to a former NSA agent and Reagans former CIA briefer. He's also been proven to have CIA contacts. So, im supposed to believe former administrations were not evil and former CIA officials were not meniacal and are "the good guys" trying to get rid of the bad seeds in the current CIA? psssh gimme a break man, what is fake? the tapes, bin laden, or your story?

-A former Bush official came out saying that 9/11 was pulled off as a pretext for wars for oil and to roll back civil liberties. Ok? and i say they weren't. That doesnt prove anything.

-Yeah the Pentagon is of major importance but the side that was hit was under construction. No one "important" died in that atttack. no one of importance? well the higher ups certainly weren't killed, they are located in the inner rings of the pentagon but to say the people killed weren't important is fucked up and just plain wrong. they were important, they were an integral part of our government. yes the government can live without them but not without making another persons job that much harder.

..

 

[maniclion]

I dunno man, the leprichan in my closet says otherwise...

You only have one? Luckkkkyyyyy! I have to deal with like a bazillion every time I get dressed....

 

[CowPimp]

http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php?t=118223

http://debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

http://debunking911.com/thermite.htm

It doesn't appear that those address the fact that Jones found thermite through forensic testing on debris pulled from the rubble of tower 7. Nonetheless, I certainly plan on reading those more in depth. I just skimmed through seeing as how it's late Friday night, heh.

 

[the nut]

It doesn't appear that those address the fact that Jones found thermite through forensic testing on debris pulled from the rubble of tower 7. Nonetheless, I certainly plan on reading those more in depth. I just skimmed through seeing as how it's late Friday night, heh.

Not that I'm convinced either way, that was the only thing I couldn't find the debunkers addressing...

 

[911=InsideJob]

-Yeah America lost tons of money, but Bush and his friends made billions upon billions of dollars in the wars and the oil fields and so forth.

-The newer bin Laden tapes are fake. That's according to a former NSA agent and Reagans former CIA briefer. He's also been proven to have CIA contacts. So, im supposed to believe former administrations were not evil and former CIA officials were not meniacal and are "the good guys" trying to get rid of the bad seeds in the current CIA? psssh gimme a break man, what is fake? the tapes, bin laden, or your story?

-A former Bush official came out saying that 9/11 was pulled off as a pretext for wars for oil and to roll back civil liberties. Ok? and i say they weren't. That doesnt prove anything.

-Yeah the Pentagon is of major importance but the side that was hit was under construction. No one "important" died in that atttack. no one of importance? well the higher ups certainly weren't killed, they are located in the inner rings of the pentagon but to say the people killed weren't important is fucked up and just plain wrong. they were important, they were an integral part of our government. yes the government can live without them but not without making another persons job that much harder.

-bin Laden tapes fake:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
A senator even came out saying he had a source telling him bin Laden died already yet another tape came out.

-Just look at how much Bush and his friends benifited from 9/11. I mean his administration wanted to go to war with Iraq from day 1. The day after 9/11 they tried finding ways to link it to Saddam. Bush also recieved war plans for Afganistan a day or two before the attacks.

-The Pentagon has 5 sides, yet the hijacker (for the sake of argument) for some reason decides to circle around the Pentagon and coincedently hits the side of the Pentagon that's under construction. How odd is that? Bottom line is they needed to get people rilled up.

 

[911=InsideJob]

You only have one? Luckkkkyyyyy! I have to deal with like a bazillion every time I get dressed....

Does he ever ughh....touch you?




And the guy with the ninja in your avatar....21.

 

[darkharem]

You should start doing some research. Again, I haven't conclusively stated that I feel it's an inside job, but there is a ludicrous amount of totally fishy evidence surrounding the whole thing. What I do believe for sure is that there is a lot of untold information surrounding the attack.

I bet even if hard evidence was staring you in the face you wouldn't believe it. Things like this have happened in the past. Don't be naive.

Yes there is alot that just doesn't fit. When I first saw the loose change video a while back, I searched everywhere I could find for anything about it. Sure some of it can be discredited off the bat, but what can't be is enough to make you go hmmmmm

To the other dude, Pepper, you need to stop being such a sheep. Just because your goverment says it is, doesn't make it so. Do you honestly think they wouldn't lie to you? Man they make their living with lies. Get a clue and start thinking for yourself and you'll have the same questions everyone else has.

 

[CowPimp]

Not that I'm convinced either way, that was the only thing I couldn't find the debunkers addressing...

I'm not convinced that it's an inside job necessarily myself. However, I do think the demolition theory holds some weight. It's still good to see these links. I will probably read through the more over the next few days. I like to see different viewpoints.

 

[BigDyl]

To the other dude, Pepper, you need to stop being such a sheep. Just because your goverment says it is, doesn't make it so. Do you honestly think they wouldn't lie to you? Man they make their living with lies. Get a clue and start thinking for yourself and you'll have the same questions everyone else has.

Pepperowned!@