9/11=insidejob...this is for you

[lnvanry]

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

knock yourself out

 

[C-Los 21]

Damn...

 

[tucker01]

Lol

 

[ge3k0]

fucking terrorist.

 

[CowPimp]

As an addendum to this video, a study was recently concluded by Steven Young, a physics professor at Bringham Young University, which found something interesting from the rubble in tower 7.

There were pools of molten steel sitting at the bottom of the rubble several weeks after the attacks, and there was also evidence of steel evaporating. Jet fuel is not nearly hot enough to create molten steel. After testing an article from the rubble of building 7, he found traces of the "checmical fingerprint" for thermite. He also found traces of sulfur, which confirmed the usage of a commercially patented version of thermite called thermate. It is used by demolition engineers to cut through steel beams at a rapid pace.

Now remember, this building wasn't even hit by one of the jets. That sounds pretty fucking fishy to me.

 

[OneBetter]

wow..

 

[911=InsideJob]

Nice try with that website. Wanna have some fun? There's so much b.s. on that site that I dont even know where to begin. Just pick something out at random and I'll betcha I can debunk whats on that site.

And CowPimp, your right on the money. Here's an intersting fact, 2 weeks before 9/11 the bomb sniffing dogs that had been there since the first bombings had been removed for no reason. There was also suspicious activitiy in the weekend before 9/11, power downs or something. And guess who works for that security company? Marvin Bush, the Presidents brother.

 

[911=InsideJob]

And by the way, I've heard there were errors in Loose Change as well.

 

[Pepper]

You 9/11 conspiracy theorists are totally fucking nuts.

Get help. Soon.

 

[911=InsideJob]

You 9/11 conspiracy theorists are totally fucking nuts.

Get help. Soon.

Would that include the CIA briefer for Reagan and Bush 1 who said the official story is a "fairy tale"? Or a fromer General who says there's no way a 757 hit the Pentagon? Or Bush's former economist who says the towers were blown up? Or a former military school dean who says Bush trained the hijackers and ordered the attacks? Or even a former German Minister?

Are all those people "totally fucking nuts" as well?

 

[Pepper]

This whole thing proves that no matter how absurd the theory, there is someone who will buy it.

These 911 theories are absurd. Period.

It is more likley that the moon is, in fact, made of cheese.

 

[BigPapaPump68]

Nice try with that website. Wanna have some fun? There's so much b.s. on that site that I dont even know where to begin. Just pick something out at random and I'll betcha I can debunk whats on that site.

And CowPimp, your right on the money. Here's an intersting fact, 2 weeks before 9/11 the bomb sniffing dogs that had been there since the first bombings had been removed for no reason. There was also suspicious activitiy in the weekend before 9/11, power downs or something. And guess who works for that security company? Marvin Bush, the Presidents brother.

I know what you mean and also I went to see a yankees game the weekend before it happened and there were police everywhere around there. Also was a ton of coast guard surrounding in the water. I thought to myself that maybe they had a tip that we didnt know about.

 

[CowPimp]

You 9/11 conspiracy theorists are totally fucking nuts.

Get help. Soon.

You should start doing some research. Again, I haven't conclusively stated that I feel it's an inside job, but there is a ludicrous amount of totally fishy evidence surrounding the whole thing. What I do believe for sure is that there is a lot of untold information surrounding the attack.

I bet even if hard evidence was staring you in the face you wouldn't believe it. Things like this have happened in the past. Don't be naive.

 

[Pepper]

You should start doing some research. Again, I haven't conclusively stated that I feel it's an inside job, but there is a ludicrous amount of totally fishy evidence surrounding the whole thing. What I do believe for sure is that there is a lot of untold information surrounding the attack.

I bet even if hard evidence was staring you in the face you wouldn't believe it. Things like this have happened in the past. Don't be naive.

You mean hard evidence like photographs of the landing gear and fuselage of the airplane?

This is right up there with the "we didn't land on the moon" theory. There are a few "in the know" guys who support it and it gives the nuts just enough "evidence" to run wild with a totally ludacris theory.

People fall for this shit b/c they WANT to believe it.

They are wrong, insensitive and irresponsible and I have no patience for them.

 

[Pepper]

You should start doing some research.

What is comical to me is that you think those of us who find these theories ludacris have not looked into it. I have looked at sites with photo after photo. A fucking 757 hit the pentagon. Period.

 

[911=InsideJob]

You mean hard evidence like photographs of the landing gear and fuselage of the airplane?

This is right up there with the "we didn't land on the moon" theory. There are a few "in the know" guys who support it and it gives the nuts just enough "evidence" to run wild with a totally ludacris theory.

People fall for this shit b/c they WANT to believe it.

They are wrong, insensitive and irresponsible and I have no patience for them.

Regarding the wreckage, of course it was there. It was obviously hit by something. But here's the million dollar question, could a terrible pilot with no experience be able to hit the Pentagon with a 757? The answer is no.

Fact is the guy could barely fly a 2 seater plane. Yet on 9/11 he makes menuevers so advance most pilots in the world cant make them, in fact, a 757 should not be able to make that meneuver. On top of that, if you bother to take 1 minute to even look at the wreckage, you would see that there is zero trace of a 757.

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pentagon-montage.jpg

You've even got a former Major General Albert Stubblebine saying there's no way a 757 hit the Pentagon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6szfWQ4IBg&search=Albert Stubblebine

But wait, there's more! A gas station from across the street and a highway security camera saw the entire thing, and minutes later the FBI came and took that footage and has never relased it. You've even got witnesses saying they saw something that looked like a small plane hitting the Pentagon.

That's not all, major news sources say that the pilot is still alive and had nothing to do with the attacks. And according the the flight maniest, there were no arabs on board that flight.

 

[Pepper]

Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

 

[911=InsideJob]

As I've just posted, Major General Stubbllebine disagrees.

 

[Pepper]

As I've just posted, Major General Stubbllebine disagrees.

Look at these photos.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

Not be be redundant, but this theory is absurd.

LOOK AT THE FUCKING PHOTOS.

 

[Pepper]

That missile sure had some wicked landing gear.

 

[911=InsideJob]

You gotta be kidding me with that. I'VE ALREADY SAID SOMETHING HIT THE PENTAGON! In that lame website you've posted, show me the giant wingspan of a 757...

I never said it was a missle.

 

[Pepper]

Was the missile loaded with plane debris for effect? Or did someone drop that at the sceen from their black helicopters?

 

[Pepper]

You gotta be kidding me with that. I'VE ALREADY SAID SOMETHING HIT THE PENTAGON! In that lame website you've posted, show me the giant wingspan of a 757...

I never said it was a missle.

Yeah, the wingspan is a problem. Everyone knows that the 757 was designed so that its wings could withstand a 600 MPH collision with a concreate building.

 

[911=InsideJob]

Dude, you have a serious learning problem. I never claimed it was a missle. It was a small plane.

So you believe an amature pilot was able to make advanced meneuevers on 9/11? You also believe Wow! Just wow.

Let me ask you this, where was NORAD an hour after the WTC was hit?

 

[911=InsideJob]

Yeah, the wingspan is a problem. Everyone knows that the 757 was designed so that its wings could withstand a 600 MPH collision with a concreate building.

Darn, you were right all along. I forgot the fact that it decintigrated into thin air from that impact. Should have payed more attention at school so I could be as smart as you are.

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pentagon-montage.jpg

 

[Pepper]

Let me ask you this, where was NORAD an hour after the WTC was hit?

The were monitoring the UFO activity at Area 51.

 

[Pepper]

Yep. most small aircraft have double-rimmed landing gear.

The photos of the engine...where these peices planted at the scene or were they placed on the small aircraft?

 

[Pepper]

"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001

"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002

"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20

"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News

Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn�t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." Massachusetts News

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." dcmilitary.com November 16, 2001

 

[Pepper]

All government shills planted near to scene to add credibiity..right?

 

[Pepper]

Calling this a conspiracy theory really isn't fair to your devoted "conspiracy theorist." Your average conspiracy theorists would not fall for someting this unsupportable.