Abortion........a womans right?

[busyLivin]

Where do we draw the line on abortion? Let's say a woman cannot get an abortion and gets shit ass drunk and kills the fetus. i would assume this would constitute murder. Now Let's assume some womam get's pregnant and, not knowing she is pregnant, goes out and get's drunk and the fetus dies? What about if a woman knowingly starves herself to kill the fetus? What about if a woman cannot afford to feed herself, thus killing the fetus? There are too many what ifs out there for a concrete no abortion, IMO.

Probably based on intent. Theres a big difference between accidental & intentional abortion.

 

[MaxMirkin]

This is why the debate is so screwed up. No one can stay on point.

Are you saying that this couple can "choose" to kill their child after it is born? Of course you are not. Saying that this debate comes down to "choice" is just not true. We don't have the choice to do alot of things because they are wrong and harm others.

The issue is whether is should be legal or not to terminate a pregnancy inside the womb. That's a hard question to answer, and one that even still struggle with. Saying that decsion is about choice is just way, way wrong.

If you are corect, my choices are limited by laws everywhere. I want to choose to drive 100 MPH while drunk. It that my choice?

We have a choice when it comes to our own bodies. The fetus is part of the woman, hence whatever decision she and her mate make, it's theirs alone. IMO, nobody else has a right to interfere. I don't see how you're gonna compare that to drunk-driving.

People should learn to stay out of others' affairs. What difference does it make to you anyway? How can her getting an abortion affect you in any way? I can't even imagine imposing my opinion and/or beliefs on somebody that way. Some people in this country are too damn pushy.

 

[pmech]

I can't even imagine imposing my opinion and/or beliefs on somebody that way. Some people in this country are too damn pushy.

Isnt that what 90% of this whole Thread is? People trying to push their opinions or beliefs on to others?

 

[MaxMirkin]

I did not say that laws are silly... You did not read my post in full context. I am going into law enforcement so obviously I feel laws are necessary
The point of what I had written was to say that many people would like certain laws to embrace their choices so that they can feel better about the choices they make. If they have no god then the only thing that governs their system of right and wrong is usually common law. Unlike me who will not do something just b/c man says it is ok

I misunderstood, sorry.
I'm practically illiterate, so these things tend to happen.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Probably based on intent. Theres a big difference between accidental & intentional abortion.

I agree, but how do you prove intent? Especially considering you can find out you are pregnant right from the comfort of your own home?

 

[MaxMirkin]

Isnt that what 90% of this whole Thread is? People trying to push their opinions or beliefs on to others?

Expressing your opinion is very different from trying to make it into some sort of retarded law.

 

[tomas101]

still for abortion

 

[busyLivin]

I agree, but how do you prove intent? Especially considering you can find out you are pregnant right from the comfort of your own home?

I wasn't talking about proving intent. Intent was the answer to your original question of "where do you draw the line?"

No pro-life person would think an accidental death of a fetus, though it may or may not be somewhat irresponsible, would be considered an abortion. A woman who loses a baby while drinking (and not knowing she was pregnant) I would call an unfortunate accident.

An abortion, I feel, is strictly the purposeful ending of a pregnancy.

 

[Dale Mabry]

I wasn't talking about proving intent. Intent was the answer to your original question of "where do you draw the line?"

No pro-life person would think an accidental death of a fetus, though it may or may not be somewhat irresponsible, would be considered an abortion. A woman who loses a baby while drinking (and not knowing she was pregnant) I would call an unfortunate accident.

An abortion, I feel, is strictly the purposeful ending of a pregnancy.

Yes, but it would be up to the courts to prove one way or another, and I don't think they could in those cases. The point is, someone could purposefully end a childs life, ie with alcohol, and get away with it as there would be no way to prove the intent. This method would also be unhealthy to the mother. Since they could get away with it anyway, why have them endanger their own lives by making a Dr monitored abortion illegal. This is similar to the pro-gun's notion that since you could get them anyway, why make a law.