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Z was great for me. From the service, responses, to the results. Only bad thing is that I wanted to fuck all the damn time. And that the bicep pumps were insane.

You cannot go wrong with Z. When you are as big as Z, people will go to extreme lengths to tarnish your name.
 
tren

anyone used and of z's tren? Which lab would you reccommend from z for tren
 
Hi

I would like to know references from people who have tested UncleZ gear, BUT, who have used another gear too. (Anyways i think this will be almost impossible because a lot of people here is publicing uncleZ)

I have been reading a lot of people speaking not good things about UncleZ (scammings, underdosed...), and this can be read in a lot of forums except this one and other (what i wont say). i know that their shipping is 5/5 and also their communication, but what i really want to know is about their quality

Do you think a cycle like this with UncleZ worth it? What about lb/kg gains?

1-12 EQ
1-13 Test E
And also 6 week of tren Ace

(ofc AI, PCT...)

Thank you


First off please let me express to you that I absolutley know how you feel. Yes, you spent almost a G of your hard earned beans.

When one gets bad gear mate, they dont sit on it and wait around to blow the whistle, *im not calling you out* although I will be tuff on my speech becuase quite honestly..well just read.. im making a very strong statement like this bc it is very true.

Wether someone spent a G or got it for free.......IF ITS BUNK....whistle's will be blown on the source/lab. If someone spent close to a G...the whistle may be blown alittle harder.

You said..

" i know that their shipping is 5/5 and also their communication, but what i really want to know is about their quality"

Then mate, why didnt you utilize this 5/5 service that you KNOW Z carry's to validate your claim? I understand you have to give it time to see ect ect, but bro - I've personally - MANY TIMES - have talked with Z on this hot topic. He's personally expressed to me and many as well, past...how should we say, "chefs" preparing his gear..that were not to HIS standard - and he got rid of them - This is kinda anient history now, but the point im making is Z didnt have to say anything about it...and life wouldve went on..

Many go thru this trial and error of finding a good Chef - and im telling you the Chef's outta hell's kitchen mate.

I read alot of things in this thread that really irratted me.

I can't hit all of them, but ill say this..

Having a Z banner.............your picking out those that have banners..
Let me ask you this, do you honestly think that Z can afford, no seriously, to hand out enough gear...to supply everyone with a "banner" with what you call "kick backs" Certainly thats something to think about. I, and maybe yourself could be on multiple boards/forums and i can assure you that everywhere you go, they'll be Followers...and as you americans say "haters" - the point were left with here is maybe that flag is flying high becuase the thats where the top of the mountain is :)

This kinduh business, and im not insulting you, but you only know it form the buyers point of view here, put yourself in Z's Nike's fora moment and utilize common sense. A highly rep source for 10 years plus can be demolished from just a few ill words from a noob-

It's a very real thing. Maybe not demolished but not good.

The guys flying the banner are anywhere from reps to avg's joe's just doing the right things ad putting there 2sense out there of truth.

- HeavyIron is on many many boards, you think he wants to damage his self-built and solid rep flying a bo'zo's flag? Matter of fact....ha alot of the bro's on here have solid rep's...thier rep's...im not referring to howmany little red dots they have - im referring to thier personal character, advice given, and sincerity and loyalty to the BodyBuilding way of life.

Brother, I know not who you are, or were your from, and 80% of the bro's on these sites hardly know one another - certain things are facts tho -
everywhere you go youll hear bant'ring abt sources - a word of advice, maybe befriend, or follow the post of a "flag/banner flyer" and see where that leads you.

When those that think they have bunk gear post up that they think they've received an ill batch..its almost as if they are looking for confirmation that they have bunk gear and want to hear someone say it.
ive seen mate's run cycles and get bigger in front of my eyes...and swear "this shit fake"................I dunno what to say but something to think about.


So now it's my turn I suppose.......

Zline / EP is 101% GTG - OILS/TABS -
It's that simple.
Packaging, labeling, consistency, its all there.

MY personal Fav is Zline and im telling you my test level goes up just holding the vial in my hand.

Zline A-bombs well they made me feel lethargic and unhungry..and WORKED LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER :)

Again ill express to you that I understand how you feel,

but I must reinterate, if ppl think they've been had they blow whistles.

I believe the anti-Z hype is playing its toll on your pysche - I highly recommend you stop playing on this hype - trust me - the only reassurance I can give you is that I'm standing on top of the mountain flying the Z flag and have a very clear view of whats going on here..

use your 5/5 customer service and get this straightened out, and please be pateint and respectful. - not saying you werent, im just suggesting.

I dont take kindly to Z bant'ring so much now'a'days due to the fact that I personally know now that everything, EVERYTHING that comes from our relative is more G2G than 98% of what's out there. Im talking A-Z - and im really hitting on the production part, I cant elaborate to much, but the production that goes into making this superb product isnt taken lightly by the "chefs" - its a very real, prestijudice effort that goes into making and handling the goods. TRUST ME -

Please listen to everything OD suggest to you as he will bring much light to your situation, but again, please be respectful and patient.

-Mac
 
Nice second post OP. Uncle Z has the best gear hands down. My friends have ran it with no problems and so have I. It's g2g and the quality is amazing.

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Yes- you are-plus you were man enough to come back up here and say you were going by " feel" and that is appreciated.
Are you certain that Z just distributes and does not " make " ?? If you read my article on blog about UGLs - you will see I have been around for a LONG time- not a young man by any standards. If someone was to get a bad batch- we would have several complaints as batches are LARGE. And for them to have bad batches of several diferent compounds would be extremely rare. For a compound to be underdosed would just be plain silly IMO.On the other hand-if a guy was trying gear and not seeing what he wanted I can understand that he just gives up on gear and says fuck it and moves on. But- you have seen too many good guys on here growing- so you have a hunch there is more to it than meets the eye.
If I thought for a second that any of this gear was underdosed or bunk I would NEVER rep Z plus I use this gear and have my choice of many.
With that being said-I might suggest that you try a small order and you will soon find out what everybody is talking about. Appreciate your clarification post. Happy Holidays-ordawg1


I understand your logic, and you could vary easily be right... Maybe the gear is good and I'm just nuts...

But it's just as easy for a middle guy to cut vials with oil to snatch some profit on the side, or a hundred other things that could happen which z or anyone else is unaware of. It's the nature of the business... doesn't mean the company is bad, but the bigger you are... the more room for error

I'm certainly not out to get Z, and I'm sure he sends out mostly good gear.
If you look back through my post history you'll see that I actually defended Z after the z-line dom issue that I'm sure your aware of.

I gave it 20 long weeks without saying anything negative, just to make sure my opinion was at least accurate by how I felt. Then I waited to start new gear to gauge my results from that. And now I have stated my opinion, although not substantiated by any lab results
 
I understand your logic, and you could vary easily be right... Maybe the gear is good and I'm just nuts...

But it's just as easy for a middle guy to cut vials with oil to snatch some profit on the side, or a hundred other things that could happen which z or anyone else is unaware of. It's the nature of the business... doesn't mean the company is bad, but the bigger you are... the more room for error

I'm certainly not out to get Z, and I'm sure he sends out mostly good gear.
If you look back through my post history you'll see that I actually defended Z after the z-line dom issue that I'm sure your aware of.

I gave it 20 long weeks without saying anything negative, just to make sure my opinion was at least accurate by how I felt. Then I waited to start new gear to gauge my results from that. And now I have stated my opinion, although not substantiated by any lab results

Would love to see lab results on that gear bro- all ya have to do is PM me- you know that. Is exactly what we are here for.We run a very tight ship. If I am out for a bit OSL will cover- just let us know-Thanks-OD
 
Haven't heard from you before ? maybe you will PM me ( get your post count up) as we have no complaints about the anadrol or any other. I will await your order # - labs and other info-Thanks-ordawg1
PS- if I am not availible you can contact OldSchoolLifter -Happy Holidays
I assumed you were talking to me, and I assure you I will get my quotes up so I can PM you. As for getting lab results, no problem, have a lab in town that doesnt ask questions and will do this as soon as I get stateside, which will be another month as I am currently deployed. This is the reason I still have the unopened bags. Cant just go down to the lab here and get this stuff tested. As for my earlier response, if you read all the posts that have followed, yep I called it. Must be my diet.
 
no banner and the 2 cycles i have ran with zline i have gotten gains from and nothing appeared to be underdosed. im going to have my first run with the ep line so i will keep everyone posted on my results, i dont beleive people would rep zz if he was underdosing his gear, we have all been there before and no what it feels like so i dont question the reps or the gear at all
 
But it's just as easy for a middle guy to cut vials with oil to snatch some profit on the side, or a hundred other things that could happen which z or anyone else is unaware of. It's the nature of the business... doesn't mean the company is bad, but the bigger you are... the more room for error

MY friend your not dealing with the corner shop crackhouse...methlab...cooking up ...stuff...
That really irrates me to hear this, Do you understand friend that there are sources that send gear in m'fking plastic-sandwhich bags - for christ sake..and ontop of that there a homebrew 80% of the time.
So, for a "middleman" to package up something thats ill..
LOL I mean think about it, I pritty sure you didnt get your gear in a sandwhich bag with someones greasy buttcrack fingers just tossing them in there...
Anyhow - Yes people can go on and on about your diet nad training, but your dosing scheldule - my friend humans are fickle and its odd how our bodies react to the things we put into them.
I believe you need to learn a diff dosing pattern.
My body took no interest in the TBol I ran, until I got my dosage spot on- and then kaboom - kafuck.
I was taken to much, it made me feel bad, but once i dropped it down to a lower level and had a cosistent amt of hours between dosing it was m'fking on then.

Just something to consider.




I gave it 20 long weeks without saying anything negative, just to make sure my opinion was at least accurate by how I felt. Then I waited to start new gear to gauge my results from that. And now I have stated my opinion, although not substantiated by any lab results

You ran A @ for 5 weeks @ how many mg's was it?
You have to trouble shoot. There guidance for this kind of thing my friend but no written instruction manual, youll have to figure out a dosing a better doing pattern..

Even if you had bloodwork done I dont know how accurate it would be without knowing your exact dosing scheld.
 
MY friend your not dealing with the corner shop crackhouse...methlab...cooking up ...stuff...
That really irrates me to hear this, Do you understand friend that there are sources that send gear in m'fking plastic-sandwhich bags - for christ sake..and ontop of that there a homebrew 80% of the time.
So, for a "middleman" to package up something thats ill..
LOL I mean think about it, I pritty sure you didnt get your gear in a sandwhich bag with someones greasy buttcrack fingers just tossing them in there...
Anyhow - Yes people can go on and on about your diet nad training, but your dosing scheldule - my friend humans are fickle and its odd how our bodies react to the things we put into them.
I believe you need to learn a diff dosing pattern.
My body took no interest in the TBol I ran, until I got my dosage spot on- and then kaboom - kafuck.
I was taken to much, it made me feel bad, but once i dropped it down to a lower level and had a cosistent amt of hours between dosing it was m'fking on then.

Just something to consider.






You ran A @ for 5 weeks @ how many mg's was it?
You have to trouble shoot. There guidance for this kind of thing my friend but no written instruction manual, youll have to figure out a dosing a better doing pattern..

Even if you had bloodwork done I dont know how accurate it would be without knowing your exact dosing scheld.


Not trying to offend anyone brother packaging was always professional, just throwing out possibilities. I have several vials left, so maybe when I cruise in a few months I'll give it another shot and get labs.
 
OK now id like to say , i hope all the board reps can understand how it looks when you guys rep Z so intensely im sure you all have been on the outside looking in in other things in life right ?, and in fact i have seen some say things and forget what they say on other posts, now i will say 1 yr ago i placed a big order hgh and some test and deca from z's ep international , never know which is better dom or ep help me on this one . I know the hgh was real even though i fucked up testing it and when i start again will need info on how too, along with the igf .My gf is a RN in a place that does these tests that are needed for their patients but the sides i got we so bad it had to be real hgh, and the small dose of test i was on every week on this cycle which i did different kept my levels at 2000 and just ask my gyno if it were real . at this point i am a bit worried as i am about to place another big order but i am watching all this because u never want to read shit like this and worrying and wish i was'nt since my last experience was good, dont think anything was under dosed , the packaging was great and got it quick lol hope i remember how to do it this time ughhhhhhhhhh, and gee whatcha gotta do to get some rep for a regular dude around here lol
 
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OK now id like to say , i hope all the board reps can understand how it looks when you guys rep Z so intensely im sure you all have been on the outside looking in in other things in life right ?, and in fact i have seen some say things and forget what they say on other posts, now i will say 1 yr ago i placed a big order hgh and some test and deca from z's ep international , never know which is better dom or ep help me on this one . I know the hgh was real even though i fucked up testing it and when i start again will need info on how too, along with the igf .My gf is a RN in a place that does these tests that are needed for their patients but the sides i got we so bad it had to be real hgh, and the small dose of test i was on every week on this cycle which i did different kept my levels at 2000 and just ask my gyno if it were real . at this point i am a bit worried as i am about to place another big order but i am watching all this because u never want to read shit like this and worrying and wish i was'nt since my last experience was good, dont think anything was under dosed , the packaging was great and got it quick lol hope i remember how to do it this time ughhhhhhhhhh, and gee whatcha gotta do to get some rep for a regular dude around here lol

That what i was getting at in my post.

One ill comment and it sends people into a panic mode.
 
LOL MAD i guess u just gotta phrase it right but i do hope people read my last post inc the board . i have said nothing bad and infact i too have had 1 on 1 messages with z and he was a stand up guy and responded all .that was last time and back then, dont think i can do that anymore so if i need too ill contact OWDAWG but PEOPLE LOOK IM JUST A REGULAR DUDE and not connected to the site at all but just letting u know my last experience was a good one and hope the next is just as good , because its just the coolest thing having a home like this for hopefully quality gear now and in the future .
 
bottom line z don't push no bullshit
 
Will see ONTOPTHEGAME85,, a new order will be in shortly and if i can ask is the ep international running no problem,I think thats the route for me or pm me asap
 
Everything is up and running on all cylinders. EP dom-intl-everything. Z will take a break for the holidays - just like eveybody else- but other than that- all will be gtg guys. Thanks for all input here- is appreciated-OD
 
Just placed my order for HGH will be getting lab done at the begging and thru out. Wife will be running low dossage so am excited to see what happens. LOL
 
Hey VANNESB let me know how it works out on your wife as my gf is breaking my balls and wants to do also and what dosage you give her
 
Ordawg1 could you please pm me i have and important question to ask u or should i pm
 
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YGM bro-Thanks-OD
 
Z's gear is top of the line. He had a problem in the past, but it's been rectified. You don't roam with the big dogs for as many years as he has if you're slinging garbage. Sponsors come and go all the time, but Z always stands his ground.
 
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