about to start cycle //// opinions

[RichardBraden]

Cycle

Week 1 - 2 = Frontload Eq 1.3g PW
Week 1 - 4 = Bestdrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 1 - 4 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 4 - 16 = HCG - 500 IU PW
Week 5 - 12 = Winstrol - 50mg EOD
Week 1 - 16 = Test E - 750mg PW
Week 1 - 14 = Equipoise - 700mg PW
Week 1 - 16 = Liv-52 6 Tablets PD
Week 13 - 16 = Katanandrol - 5 Caps PD
Week 13 - 16 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD

PCT

Week 18 - 19 = Clomid - 50mg ED (700mg)
Week 20 - 22 = Clomid - 25mg ED (525mg)
Week 18 - 22 = Nolvadex - 20 ED (700mg)
Week 18 - 22 = Testosterone Recovery Stack Oral (primordialperformance)
Week 22 - 25 = NTBM Bridge - 3 Caps PD

OCT

Week 1 - 16 = N2Guard - 7caps PD
Forma stanzol on hand

Other PCT

Forma stanzol
Vitamin C = 3g PD During PCT (1.5g PD normally)
L-tyrosine = 3g PD
Phospidatly Serine 800mg
D-Aspartic Acid
Halodrol
Tribulus

 

[M4A3]

Read this... your post is missing some important info.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/69292-cycle-advice.html

 

[BIGBEN2011]

wow man you spent some money i have a lot of the same stuff i am running test e and eq with katandrol 5 caps a day form stanzol on cyle as my ai and i all so have tone of otc stuff i dont have any nolva just clomid.you will love your results you have a lot of good shit right there.who did you get your test and eq from.i all so used beastdrol as my kick start it works great but it is harse felt like hell while on it hope you got support supps while on it i used cycle assist from cel good stuff.you will be hard as a rock from head to toe for real.

 

[BIGBEN2011]

you will need some taruine (sp) for back pumps i have to get me some matter of fact.

 

[RichardBraden]

wow man you spent some money i have a lot of the same stuff i am running test e and eq with katandrol 5 caps a day form stanzol on cyle as my ai and i all so have tone of otc stuff i dont have any nolva just clomid.you will love your results you have a lot of good shit right there.who did you get your test and eq from.i all so used beastdrol as my kick start it works great but it is harse felt like hell while on it hope you got support supps while on it i used cycle assist from cel good stuff.you will be hard as a rock from head to toe for real.

ty for reply yes i hope all goes well

 

[Digitalash]

Yeah your first post is missing some stats like age, weight, bf%, cycle history etc. I'm assuming though this isn't your first cycle.

Just a heads up, formestane converts to 4-hydroxytestosterone which can be mildly suppressive. I know they say its fine to run during pct but I haven't seen any legitimate science to say it won't suppress you enough to make the AI effects not worth it. I'm using it as my on cycle AI right now so I've already looked into it. I'm pretty happy with it though, I have pretty much zero bloat and no gyno yet lol. Also I might've missed something but you say you have formestane "on hand" but you're not running an AI every day. Just curious why because I wouldn't wait until you start seeing estrogen effects to use your AI, you should at least be running some all the way through.


EDIT: also you say you're using halodrol during pct, isn't that a PH?

 

[BIGBEN2011]

yea man why not use the formstane while on if for nothing else to help bloat.thats what i am doing with mine.

 

[Digitalash]

yea man why not use the formstane while on if for nothing else to help bloat.thats what i am doing with mine.

Yeah for sure, bloat face is not attractive lol. Also I've had a little gyno since puberty and trust me its not something you want to take chances with.


OP- looking over your cycle again you have a ton of methylated compounds (winstrol, beastdrol, helladrol, katanadrol, halodrol). I'm not the most familiar with some of those ph's (some may not be methylated though I'm assuming they are) but either way that sounds like WAY too many methyl's. It's your liver of course just thought I'd throw you a warning in case you aren't aware (you haven't said your cycle history so this could be your first for all we know)

 

[RichardBraden]

Yeah for sure, bloat face is not attractive lol. Also I've had a little gyno since puberty and trust me its not something you want to take chances with.


OP- looking over your cycle again you have a ton of methylated compounds (winstrol, beastdrol, helladrol, katanadrol, halodrol). I'm not the most familiar with some of those ph's (some may not be methylated though I'm assuming they are) but either way that sounds like WAY too many methyl's. It's your liver of course just thought I'd throw you a warning in case you aren't aware (you haven't said your cycle history so this could be your first for all we know)

is my 2nd cycle , so id better not run the halodrol?,,, it says im doing it in pct is my mistake i would have run it through oct,

I will be running liv52 and NTBM N2guard all the way through

I was gonna use the forma for maybe 1 or 2 pumps EOD OCT


Age = 25
height = 5'10
weight = 183
BF = 12%
been training since i was 16
Did my first cycle last year, happy with the results (sust and deca / beastdrol kick start) Maintained just above half of what I gained I have waiting a year to do my 2nd cycle.
Ive had my blood work done everything is normal ready to start 2nd cycle
goal is to put some more mass on

PS i dont think halodrol is a PH ---- http://www.explosivenutrition.co.uk...=Gaspari+Haladrol+International+x60+liquigels

 

[theCaptn']

Lets review an important aspect of this cycle which everyone appears to have overlooked:

Week 1 - 4 = Bestdrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 1 - 4 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 5 - 12 = Winstrol - 50mg EOD
Week 13 - 16 = Katanandrol - 5 Caps PD
Week 13 - 16 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD

16 weeks of oral steroid abuse????

 

[RichardBraden]

Lets review an important aspect of this cycle which everyone appears to have overlooked:

Week 1 - 4 = Bestdrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 1 - 4 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 5 - 12 = Winstrol - 50mg EOD
Week 13 - 16 = Katanandrol - 5 Caps PD
Week 13 - 16 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD

16 weeks of oral steroid abuse????

what do you suggest I do for my orals?

maybe just get the kick start and winstrol and leave the end orals out?

or even cut out the PH's completely and just run Week 1 - 8 winstrol 50mg EOD?

 

[theCaptn']

1 -5 and 12-16 50mg ED winstrol would be my preference.

 

[RichardBraden]

1 -5 and 12-16 50mg ED winstrol would be my preference.

ok sounds good ty for help

 

[theCaptn']

good to see youre running hcG - Stanazol in pretty harsh on my nutz, can throw your lipids around too, so make sure youre hitting that fishoil too.

 

[RichardBraden]

good to see youre running hcG - Stanazol in pretty harsh on my nutz, can throw your lipids around too, so make sure youre hitting that fishoil too.

ofc

 

[BIGBEN2011]

so are you saying run winstrol week 1-5 i have never heard running winstrol at a beginng of a cycle just the end.is winstrol work/kick inn real fast like what kind of results will you see fron winny in 5 weeks?

 

[Digitalash]

Lets review an important aspect of this cycle which everyone appears to have overlooked:

Week 1 - 4 = Bestdrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 1 - 4 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD
Week 5 - 12 = Winstrol - 50mg EOD
Week 13 - 16 = Katanandrol - 5 Caps PD
Week 13 - 16 = Helladrol - 3 Caps PD

16 weeks of oral steroid abuse????

yep that's what I said above, I hope op likes the yellow look



Definitely cut out some of those orals, stick with one for kickstart and maybe the winny at the end. If you already bought all of these you can always save them for another cycle

 

[RichardBraden]

yep that's what I said above, I hope op likes the yellow look



Definitely cut out some of those orals, stick with one for kickstart and maybe the winny at the end. If you already bought all of these you can always save them for another cycle

what do u mean? (paranoia)