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[Twigz]

Is it me or does everyone bleed from their ears after reading a lotus statment???

 

[Blooming Lotus]

Usually I enjoy reading the drama-filled "I'm Leaving" rants but once again, lotus posts something that is unbearable to read.

Dammed answering machines ...

Fine, so a personal closure comment for you then Soxmuscle. i was nearly thinking about posting this to you on your journal but decided I wasn't talking atm. . and then changed my mind after i read this. If you are planning on a long and prosperous career in baseball, because of your DL form, i believe you're a shoulder injury waiting to happen. Go talk to Ian Daniel about how that feels from where hee was..
you are sooo well trained and have a massive training heart to be pulling off those kind of weights at what you say is 19. I dont particularly want to get into the pros and cons of peanut butter with aanyone on this board at this point, as delicious or enticing as no doubt different versions might appear to be, ... :/.. but i think you're trying to get your goal too quickly and comprimising form for more weight and are therefore in the process of screwing yourself. I'd hate to think that with all your passion and how much you clearly want and 've worked twd something legimate that that's what lays ahead for you. When one stupid comprimise or impatience is alll that's between really making a mark and making a what ends up having been a half assed attempt, then it's a sad day for all of us. ..sometimes the long road is the Only road to there.



Blooming tianshi lotus.

 

[Gazhole]

There was a fox, cooking eggs on a speedboat, in the winter...

 

[Blooming Lotus]

your condescending tangents are ridiculous. quite frankly, i don't believe a word about your "credentials" because you are stupid.

any reputable "scientist" would not go to google and post up a page of references...without giving a summary analysis of ANY of them...

You are a joke.

Unless the forementioned fox is male, then I have noo idea whhat Gazhole is on About.

As for being able to read my posts, .. I hate to break it to some of you, but that has nothing to do with your command of the English language, so much as your command of perspective in general.

As far as you Duncan saying that i'm a joke goes, I have been really nice to you because your ego is so obvious. I am a single mother living mostly alone with my daughter for 11 out the last 13 years. I have done and paid for evverything myself. I have bearly not studied one full year's term since i left school, where i got some of the highest marks in the country for English, Science and Maths in that rvs order, .. and only probably didn't get higher marks because i was abused through most of my pre to mid teens ( 11 - 16 ) in ways so savage and emotionally violent that most ppl would never know how little b.s. i truly have for crap in my real space life.

I have passed up many opportunities to cash in on numerous successes, financial and premature cred wise, to pursue a more solid return for all the work I have committed the best part of my soul to for so long. .
it iis who i am when i am alone with my spirit. ..

I was lifting weights and with a certificate to Instruct in gym from when I was 17. I was also quite confident by then, having trained with my N.Z. Military service-man world record holding long distance runner father from verry very tiny, so as to win a 36 km beach marathon at 9 yrs old, that i could have entered those national fitness competitions, versed the adults, and done reasonabley well if not pulled a really good win or place.
I have recoverd from alll manner of condition and position - as i have acheived and maintained condition through all sorts of environments and facility and rescource availabilty and schedule and agenda, to consistently for all of my late teeenage and adult life allways without fail come out at the next point leaps and bounds ahead of virtually anyone I hear of and near to definately cross pass withs. .. the paramters of which, no doubt over the heads of some, but allways my fitness and education and experience putting me at the head of my field or closer to an ecletic culmination thereof.
I would nevver put my health and fitness in the vast marajority of any P.T.'s hands who hadn't themselves acheived an international standard, and I highly doubt that I would yours.

I am still at Uni atm completing that high performance ( physiology) masters degree. i am about to earn $2000 Aus a week to see me through my course. It's fuck all. . but it's honest and I didn't have to sell out once to make it or have what i need. When i finish my degree, I will have an international crediential as a leader in the industry. I also expect to soon after bank some world performance records of my own.
If you sincerely think that you have more experience in creating a world class performance, of which you haven't ever done before, and would like to comment like you have better scientific knowledge and information wen you don't have that degree, then I could only wish you luck and hope your foresight , about variables that you dont even know exist yet, does what you expect it to do. I am the last person to begrudge annyone a well earnt reputation or success. . and that would be why I dedicate my life to rewriting international education syllabus and curriculum, because every asshole deserves a chance and you are no exception.


AS far as your comments regarding abdominals go, an ex Mr. O himself aswell as as many current world class acheivers in exercise and sporting performance are alll saying that they are doing exactly the opposite of what you are swearing efficiacy of.
I understand your problem with high volume, and particularly in regard to abdominals, although besides that the strongest men in the world are smaller and do higher volume training themselves than a typical body builder winning world class events, bar cycles where they do do that and have been interviewed saying so, it would seem that likely unfamilar from personal experience of your own muscle fibres ever having been like that at world class performance output or otherwise , that laws of physics arent something that is quite currently resonating with you.
That being the case, along with your age and demeanor, I cant even hold any malice against your ignorant self and I refuse to walk away feeling in the slightest perturbed by what's gone on.

I will though continue to reach out to ppl less educated than myself though and to make friends and run my fingers through their souls and allow them vise versa though, because thaat is what alll this crap is for.
You have no idea what some of it sounds like back here.

Blooming tianshi lotus.

 

[Gazhole]

I hope you dont mean "continue" to make friends in relation to this forum. I obviously dont know what you're like away from internet-land, but on here when anybody on this board has even tried to reach out and make a connection with you you've called them "childish" or some such synonym.

If you really know as much as you say you do, thats excellent, anybody with the amount of knowledge and experience as you allege you have should be a benefit to any collective.

So when somebody talks to you dont insult them or act superior. Instead, hows about actually explaining what you know about nutrition/training/periodization/physiology etc etc, rather than just quoting what you have done, are doing, or what you know.

Id be far more inclined to pay Duncan to train me than you, because when he says something he backs it up with a coherant explanation as detailed as you like with links to studies/articles about what he is saying.

All i've ever seen from you is "Well i know this, and i know that, Jodi is annoying, and i did this, you dont know what you're talking about, and when i was training with so-and-so he said, and incoherancy, patronize a bit, har har, Blooming Tianshi Lotus."

After a while it just turns into the literary equivalent of a fart - plenty of promise, but absolutely no follow through.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

I can explain all i like. if the person or ppl doesn't or dont understand what i'm explaining, then they go into the special ed group and some of us just dont have time to do that with everyone in so much detail alll the time.

As far as ppl reaching out to mee Gazhole, I beg to differ. You're trying to make ppl sound hostile and I just dont believe that. Like on every other board, there really are ppl with ( often broken or lonely ) hearts and stories behind those posts, and some of the mail and requests to hook up in person and stay in contact with them that i've gotten through the yrs of posting on forums, begs to differ with you also.

It's anyone's perogative to be a person who gets offended or otherwise. i try to remain in the otherwise catagory. . and sometimes I look and i'm not standing there. If we look for ways tooo be offended, no doubt, that iis what we will always find. Ask the 'terrorist' groups perhaps. Do you knoww what most other countries in the world see as America's hermenuetic handicap ??.. it's being shallow capitalists .. and amongst other things additional. Australia has one aswell. Some of us want to find love for you and compassion for you as human beings in spite of what that might other wise command, should that be the case. same old same old. make love not war. save the whales and the Americans.

if I doo know this and i doo know that.. then i just do and some ppl should understand that unless theyy learn it then that will always be a difference between us.

you cant expect, if what i've said is true, that I would take most of your comments as anywhere near anything with legitimate merit when it's so vehemently against what i knoww and have experieced to be true. It bites that ppl feel shut down when someone else around them appears to be threatening their fantasy of their own greatness, regardless of if I haven't already got them covered if it came to that and dug deep enough, butt, besides that i'm rude ( imo translation - hOnest), Jodi has openly called me a liar. If you were telling the truth, and were myself, how would youu respond to that?!?

What follow through anyway Gazhole? We could go on forever. I dont have a forever for everyone. i'm really really private as a person. ii was lucky to promise forever to one person.. i dont always haave a desire for a fan club or want to get annny closer to some ppl for particular reasons . Is thaat okay ??

 

[tucker01]

I reached out to you.

 

[Twigz]

Ok so your better and more educated that the rest of us, and don't have time to sit and explain your vast knowledge and experiance with us "inferior" beings. We are just supposed to take whatever u say as the word of God and thats that. Thanks for the explination. So why exactly are you here?

 

[Blooming Lotus]

I dont know evverything. I know what i know. . and the stuff I dont know .. i figured others here might. That and looking for life beneath the surface?

 

[Gazhole]

I can explain all i like. if the person or ppl doesn't or dont understand what i'm explaining, then they go into the special ed group and some of us just dont have time to do that with everyone in so much detail alll the time.

Im not talking about detail, im talking about taking the time to actually spell correctly, and keep a coherant line going through what you are trying to say. Not every statement requires a tangent or a metaphor or a reference to spirituality.

As far as ppl reaching out to mee Gazhole, I beg to differ. You're trying to make ppl sound hostile and I just dont believe that. Like on every other board, there really ppl with stories behind those posts, and some of the mail and requests to hook up in person that i'ver gotten through the yrs of posting on forums, begs to differ with you also.

How am i making people sound hostile? Quite the opposite, im saying that people are attempting to be civil to you and you take everything to be a personal attack. In your journal, for example, Katt asked you what your workouts were like when you really went for it, and you responded with a 300 word diatribe about why you're so great, and why she is so childish for asking that question.

I dont care what you've done on other forums, on this forum you are becoming more and more hated with every post. Not an attack, just a reality you have brought on yourself through your own behaviour.

It's anyone's perogative to be a person who gets offended or otherwise. i try to remain in the otherwise catagory. . and sometimes I look and i'm not standing there. If we look for ways tooo be offended, no doubt, that iis what we will always find. Ask the 'terrorist' groups perhaps. Do you knoww what most other countries in the world see as America's hermenuetic handicap ??..

Here i beg to differ with you, you certainly DO get offended - by everything anybody says to you. You need to read what i quoted of you for this section and apply it to yourself.

if I doo know this and i doo know that.. then i just do and some ppl should understand that unless theyy learn it then that will always be a difference between us.

Well if you dooooo know this and you dooooooooooooooooooooo know that, why not share it for once, eh? This is a COMMUNITY where people are eager to learn. If you want to inspire an elitist order of secret knowledge then go join a cult.

you cant expect, if what i've said is true, that I would take most of your comments as anywhere near anything with legitimate merit when it's so vehemently against what i knoww and have experieced to be true. It bites that ppl feel shut down when someone else around them threatens their fantasy, butt, besides that i'm rude ( imo translation - hOnest), Jodi has openly called me a liar. If you were telling the truth, and were myself, how would youu respond to that?!?

I dont know what you were getting at with most of that, but untill i see some evidence to the contrary i have to agree with Jodi - you are a liar.

Prove me wrong. Explain how YOU would put together a balanced nutrition, and exercise, and supplementation program for someone wanting to train to compete in either a track or field event at the olympics. Ill even let you pick which event.

What follow through anyway Gazhole? We could go on forever. I dont have a forever for everyone. i'm really really private as a person. ii was lucky to promise forever to one person.. i dont always haave a fan club or get any closer to some ppl for particular reasons . Is thaat okay ??

I mean follow through in actually having some valuble input into ANY discussion. Your posts are like packing paper - they are just filler.

If you are a private person what are you doing on a forum? Forums are meant to be open, yknow...a place for people to talk and discuss things either personal or non-personal?

If you want to be private, write your thoughts in a book. If you want to be open, post here in a civil and friendly way. Dont do it in half measures. You cant have it both ways.

If you meet halfway, you end up being a troll, and these days IM is notorious for getting rid of trolls.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

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What follow through anyway Gazhole? We could go on forever. I dont have a forever for everyone. i'm really really private as a person. ii was lucky to promise forever to one person.. i dont always haave a desire for a fan club or want to get annny closer to some ppl for particular reasons . Is thaat okay ??

 

[tucker01]

I reached out to you.

The knife hurts that much more when no one recognizes your attempts.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

I dont know what you were getting at with most of that, but untill i see some evidence to the contrary i have to agree with Jodi - you are a liar.

Prove me wrong. Explain how YOU would put together a balanced nutrition, and exercise, and supplementation program for someone wanting to train to compete in either a track or field event at the olympics. Ill even let you pick which event.

.

That is extremely uncool of you to ask. Particularly after what you've just called me. I once turned down and offended a man who owned another fprum by trurning down his offer to come workout at his kungfu school in thailand for a national geogrpahic documentary. It's a shaolin thing I guess. you dont go around gibving that to just anyone and besides, too many variables person to person. It'd need to be tailored individually.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

The knife hurts that much more when no one recognizes your attempts.

. ..

 

[Blooming Lotus]

I mean follow through in actually having some valuble input into ANY discussion. Your posts are like packing paper - they are just filler.

If you are a private person what are you doing on a forum? Forums are meant to be open, yknow...a place for people to talk and discuss things either personal or non-personal?

If you want to be private, write your thoughts in a book. If you want to be open, post here in a civil and friendly way. Dont do it in half measures. You cant have it both ways.

If you meet halfway, you end up being a troll, and these days IM is notorious for getting rid of trolls.

Alright. you can threaten me and we'll just ride it out it until the ax falls. It's quite ironic to hear you call my posts filler.. indeed Gazhole. i'll eat that cake thanks.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

How's this for disclosure and honesty.

I dont expect it to make me any more popular, and as arrogant as it could be interpertated to be, as it stands, I believe that I've worked my through the entire spectrum of humanity ... even through choices I didn't make on this dimension. So does buddha nature claim to've.
I know each one of you intimately through that and 've probably beeen each one of you. Scientology and buddhist ideas of avatar explain how that works. So does quantum physics and alchemy. I'm still looking for evidence otherwise.
Maybe it's lonely on this planet and I want to know if there's any other life on it. . and i dont know how to explain life to any reasonable logic without science and spirituality. They're kind of the same thing if they're both accurate.


Blooming tianshi lotus.

 

[tucker01]

I always knew we had an intimate connection.

 

[Gazhole]

That is extremely uncool of you to ask. Particularly after what you've just called me. I once turned down and offended a man who owned another fprum by trurning down his offer to come workout at his kungfu school in thailand for a national geogrpahic documentary. It's a shaolin thing I guess. you dont go around gibving that to just anyone and besides, too many variables person to person. It'd need to be tailored individually.

Why is it uncool? Id love for you to prove to me that you're not just full of it. Theres nothing i like more than LEARNING, even at the expense of being right. Id rather be wrong this time and right the next, than be wrong forever and deluded into thinking im right.

Alright. you can threaten me and we'll just ride it out it until the ax falls. It's quite ironic to hear you call my posts filler.. indeed Gazhole. i'll eat that cake thanks.

How is that a threat? Unless you ARE a liar or a troll, i dont see how thats a threat at all. If you're straight up a knowledgable person, what have you to feel threatened by?

Whats the irony then? Seems in that context you're implying that MY posts are all filler. Well, that may be so, but im not the one saying im doing a masters degree, while showing little or nothing to back up that claim.

Either way, im not the one whos integrity is being questioned by pretty much every reputable member on the board.

Iain seems pretty fond of you though

 

[vortrit]

There was a fox, cooking eggs on a speedboat, in the winter...

What happens next???

 

[danzik17]

How's this for disclosure and honesty.

I dont expect it to make me any more popular, and as arrogant as it could be interpertated to be, as it stands, I believe that I've worked my through the entire spectrum of humanity ... even through choices I didn't make on this dimension. So does buddha nature claim to've.
I know each one of you intimately through that and 've probably beeen each one of you. Scientology and buddhist ideas of avatar explain how that works. So does quantum physics and alchemy. I'm still looking for evidence otherwise.
Maybe it's lonely on this planet and I want to know if there's any other life on it. . and i dont know how to explain life to any reasonable logic without science and spirituality. They're kind of the same thing if they're both accurate.


Blooming tianshi lotus.

Damn you Xenu, DAMN YOU!

 

[Jodi]

<Insert Mino's Popcorn Smiley here>

 

[Witchblade]

 

[soxmuscle]

How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I'm more prone to injury than anyone else? Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[AKIRA]

True Story

 

[Duncans Donuts]

 

[tucker01]

How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I'm more prone to injury than anyone else? Are you fucking kidding me?

Cause we have an intimate connection.

 

[Gazhole]

What happens next???

A Sparrowhawk lands on the prow of the ship, and it begins to rain. The Fox ponders this and speaks unto the Sparrowhawk "Want some eggs, bra?"

 

[Blooming Lotus]

That and because of what you said about the glutes not being recruited in DL's while claiming to be DL'ing so much..

Which tells me that your probably getting more a local quad pump ( quads being synergistic in DL's) and putting your upper back in jeopardy.. and your shoulders will probably only fuck you because of you first fucked your back. It looks like a potentially really out of balance body that youre creating for yourself. and under so much weight through that poor load distribution, it exacerbates the repercussions. That could also be a hamstring and or flexor weakness en ratio to what they now seem most likely to have to over compensenate for . I just think you 've cut some corners somewhere and I can see it in places like that.
If you think you can get away with it and it's trivial, then more power luck and success to you. If you were my friend ,.. I would stop seeng you if you wouldn't correct it.


Gazhole, now you know why when i was already in peak condition and the world hevy weight's title mine for the taking, best shape of my life, it was such a challenge for my scientologist 'boyfriend' at the time and I to believe that we would each stick around through what we had to do each letting go of this or that progress point in our lives and knowing or believing we could put it back together quickly if neccessary because we'd already done it.
I dont have a world title . I re-prioritised what had to be done first only 2 weeks or so out. I know shit stain that someone half way there on eeither education or training would probably have to bee at that relative point in their own condition to understand how what I say might serve them or how the variables work from there and isn't it ironic. 12 hrs a day I trained. every day . 5-6 mths from nuetral to peak. same results evvery single time it's recreated. evvery time. Pound for pound i think I do okay. hell, compared to alot of men and women heavier than me ( and whaat radicals gunking up ones joints??) . you should try wrapping your head around what I ate on that score when I turned down the $520 000 + expenses and flights to model and instead went to China teaching and studying and pursuing master training. .. broke aand my asthetics went to shit for a while. . as much as I did eventually hold enough of my esteem together to recoup enough of it to remember time to time thereafter.
I know common sense says not to believe or trust me without that world title or masters degree certificate. But then none of yourselves have those things neither and none of you even claims to be able to or are intending to bee chasing a world class performance.

Now Witchblade youu want a go at me after the remarks you've made believe in youur greatness? oh.
And how old are you witchblade?

Blooming tianshi lotus.

danzik - lol . ....

 

[tucker01]

That was so sexy.

 

[Witchblade]

Now Witchblade youu want a go at me?
And how old are you witchblade?

My place or your place? Don't worry about age, I won't tell anyone.