HereToStudy - Thanks, I'm going to be running a 11 OXO bridge (9 caps a day) for 2 weeks after my AH/AL 4 week cycle, then a 4 week PCT so I wanted to keep the total cycle including PCT at 10 weeks.
Thoughts?
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BigBlackGuy
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I think it'll work out VERY well. AH/AL should already be only mildly suppressive, especially with a 4 weeker. The 11-oxo bridge should make PCT a breeze!
Hey hey, looks like ppl been posting while I was away. I finished up my stack last week and I must say the PCT is great. Much better than my last PH run with Hdrol. Both were run w/o bloods but this time I don't "feel" as bad. Many think it's not a good gauge but my boys are still happy and full, the good ol magic stick is still holding on to blood well and the eyes are definitely still wandering most annoyingly.
Weight wise I lost about 1kg and gained strength across the board. Very good. Next I'm going to run AH straight for 8 weeks and see how I do.
After my PCT of course.
Here is the link to my new log on AM.
mattrag's first log! AnaBeta/PCT Black/ShredMatrix for a Lit-up Halloween - Anabolicminds.com
Same workout/diet but in PCT. 15 weeks to halloween where I hope to be sporting thor that day
Weight wise I lost about 1kg and gained strength across the board. Very good. Next I'm going to run AH straight for 8 weeks and see how I do.
After my PCT of course. Here is the link to my new log on AM.
mattrag's first log! AnaBeta/PCT Black/ShredMatrix for a Lit-up Halloween - Anabolicminds.com
Same workout/diet but in PCT. 15 weeks to halloween where I hope to be sporting thor that day
BigBlackGuy
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testing the time stamp, sorry
HereToStudy
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Hey hey, looks like ppl been posting while I was away. I finished up my stack last week and I must say the PCT is great. Much better than my last PH run with Hdrol. Both were run w/o bloods but this time I don't "feel" as bad. Many think it's not a good gauge but my boys are still happy and full, the good ol magic stick is still holding on to blood well and the eyes are definitely still wandering most annoyingly.
Weight wise I lost about 1kg and gained strength across the board. Very good. Next I'm going to run AH straight for 8 weeks and see how I do.
Here is the link to my new log on AM.
mattrag's first log! AnaBeta/PCT Black/ShredMatrix for a Lit-up Halloween - Anabolicminds.com
Same workout/diet but in PCT. 15 weeks to halloween where I hope to be sporting thor that day
Glad to hear PCT is going great!
Nice results budHey hey, looks like ppl been posting while I was away. I finished up my stack last week and I must say the PCT is great. Much better than my last PH run with Hdrol. Both were run w/o bloods but this time I don't "feel" as bad. Many think it's not a good gauge but my boys are still happy and full, the good ol magic stick is still holding on to blood well and the eyes are definitely still wandering most annoyingly.
Weight wise I lost about 1kg and gained strength across the board. Very good. Next I'm going to run AH straight for 8 weeks and see how I do.
Here is the link to my new log on AM.
mattrag's first log! AnaBeta/PCT Black/ShredMatrix for a Lit-up Halloween - Anabolicminds.com
Same workout/diet but in PCT. 15 weeks to halloween where I hope to be sporting thor that day
Will you be logging the 8 week run with AH?
BigBlackGuy
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Your PCT looks awesome, you're very well prepared dude.
BigBlackGuy
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That shouldn't be necessary. But it won't hurt. However, if it's more convenient for it to not be in the fridge, don't bother with it then.
HereToStudy
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Thanks!!
I'm about to do something really crazy. More info on the next update
Looking forward to it.
BigBlackGuy
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HereToStudy
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Thanks!!
I'm about to do something really crazy. More info on the next update
You are keeping us waiting!
hahah! Well my next cycle is going to look something like this~~
Week 1-10 AHv2
Week 1-4 EOD 20mg Mdrol (Basically a pulse on workout days)
Week 5-10 Progestin
PCT: Basically same as this one but with TRS too.
Right now I'm trying to settle my finances to see if I can actually afford this cycle.... But I have almost all in place... Just need the Progestin
Week 1-10 AHv2
Week 1-4 EOD 20mg Mdrol (Basically a pulse on workout days)
Week 5-10 Progestin
PCT: Basically same as this one but with TRS too.
Right now I'm trying to settle my finances to see if I can actually afford this cycle.... But I have almost all in place... Just need the Progestin
BigBlackGuy
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Absolutely.
Thanks! Thought so, just gonna be a bit more miserable i'd think lol.
HereToStudy
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5aOHP?
BigBlackGuy
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I think there was another PH out that was literally called progestin.
Are you or have you ever competed before?
Ya, it's the 5aOHP. I just couldn't remember the name when I wrote that. Sorry for the mix up.
I have never competed before... I'm what Layne Norton would call the idiot guy who takes exogenous compounds to get big, and strong in the gym... I doubt I'll step on stage in a BB competition but the fitness model category looks pretty good to me. Currently around 11%bf. I'm going to take that next cycle to get me down to 5% after this PCT then try and build up when it gets into winter. Try get to a nice 8% or so at close to 200lbs.
I have never competed before... I'm what Layne Norton would call the idiot guy who takes exogenous compounds to get big, and strong in the gym... I doubt I'll step on stage in a BB competition but the fitness model category looks pretty good to me. Currently around 11%bf. I'm going to take that next cycle to get me down to 5% after this PCT then try and build up when it gets into winter. Try get to a nice 8% or so at close to 200lbs.
HereToStudy
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IIRC, that is what they called it in beta stage.
Hey 8% is nothing to be ashamed of, especially at 200
No doubt.
UPDATE~~
OMG Torem is great. Just kicked in now i think. The boys are no longer 'sucked up' and I feel like my libido has gone from decent (I was never completely shutdown) to back up and kicking.
Adding anabeta has made the workouts feel like death. I'm sure it's my lack of carb intake. But I feel WAY more pumped and strong throughout the day... I'm gonna have to add this to my next PCT....
Small note: Torem > Clomid
Unless my clomid was bunk last PCT. All clomid did for me was make me piss out sperm. My boys never dropped, never really "Filled up" they just shoot out all the sperm I was making. AND I felt like i was dead in PCT. Libido went even lower. Even though my pct last time was pretty good, I still got killed in PCT (off a 6 week hdrol run). And the Hdrol run was pure bulk. i bulked through PCT too.... hitting close to 3500 cals a day.... Currently I do a cycling diet where I do low cal/high cal days and I don't even hit 2500 cals on a daily avg (cut for me).
This time I might actually get stronger in PCT.
AH/AL is great for keeping strength up in a cut. If I did it again I'd run AL solo on a starvation type diet. Just to test it. I feel I negated some of the benefits of AL/AH because I ran it on top the UD2. If i had just done very low cal and just suffered the full 4 weeks I might have seen better results.
Either way I do notice strength drops. By a lot. And also, endurance... my muscles actually get sore and lose contractual force during my workouts... while on cycle I didn't have that.
For those looking into these products I would do a lower calorie diet with some heavy training.
OMG Torem is great. Just kicked in now i think. The boys are no longer 'sucked up' and I feel like my libido has gone from decent (I was never completely shutdown) to back up and kicking.
Adding anabeta has made the workouts feel like death. I'm sure it's my lack of carb intake. But I feel WAY more pumped and strong throughout the day... I'm gonna have to add this to my next PCT....
Small note: Torem > Clomid
Unless my clomid was bunk last PCT. All clomid did for me was make me piss out sperm. My boys never dropped, never really "Filled up" they just shoot out all the sperm I was making. AND I felt like i was dead in PCT. Libido went even lower. Even though my pct last time was pretty good, I still got killed in PCT (off a 6 week hdrol run). And the Hdrol run was pure bulk. i bulked through PCT too.... hitting close to 3500 cals a day.... Currently I do a cycling diet where I do low cal/high cal days and I don't even hit 2500 cals on a daily avg (cut for me).
This time I might actually get stronger in PCT.
AH/AL is great for keeping strength up in a cut. If I did it again I'd run AL solo on a starvation type diet. Just to test it. I feel I negated some of the benefits of AL/AH because I ran it on top the UD2. If i had just done very low cal and just suffered the full 4 weeks I might have seen better results.
Either way I do notice strength drops. By a lot. And also, endurance... my muscles actually get sore and lose contractual force during my workouts... while on cycle I didn't have that.
For those looking into these products I would do a lower calorie diet with some heavy training.
HereToStudy
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This is the ideal way to utilize it. Sparing muscle in an extreme calorie deficit.
Indeed. Throw in our Ibcaas to further spare muscle.
BigBlackGuy
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8% at 200 is a great goal, that's just around where I want to be in a few weeks. But then in another few weeks 8-10% at 220
Eh, we all have our reasons for using. I do because I like to push myself to the highest level possible and this is just an extension of that.
