animal stak during letro

[bw0434]

did a 6 week hdrol cycle followed by nolva and pct assist
2 weeks later got gyno from e rebound
hopped on letro beend doing it for 5 weeks
is it alirght if i go on animal stak now
will it interfer with the treatment of my gyno
also i started the hdrol in january and been on all this stuff until now is it alright to do the animal stak or will shit up my body

 

[Digitalash]

animal stak is basically vitamins right? Shouldn't be an issue, next time run a suicidal AI like aromasin in your pct

 

[bw0434]

is a natty test booster

 

[teezhay]

Animal stak isn't going to do anything other than lighten your wallet, let alone interfere with the real drug you're taking. You may as well pop a Centrum with some milk thistle for the same basic effect.

 

[Digitalash]

Op go to pubmed and search for some of the ingredients in that stuff and their effects on test levels. I remember when tribulus was all the rage and I found a study saying even a 100% extract of the "active" ingredient in trib had no measurable effect on test levels. Compare that to serms which are banned from the olympics because they increase test so much it's deemed an unfair advantage.

Also you're taking letro, which will bring your test up quite a bit just by itself. No need for that other stuff if that's what you're looking for.

 

[teezhay]

is a natty test booster

Yeah, except it doesn't. At least not to the extent that it will influence your gains. I've seen anecdotal reports of DIM acting as a natural anti-estrogenic compound, but that's nothing (as close to literal nothingness as you can imagine) compared to the legitimate AI you're taking. There is no real "natural test booster" that will "boost" testosterone to an extent that any significant progress will be made over a period of 20 weeks that wouldn't have been made otherwise with just regular quality dieting and exercise. "Natty test boosters" are shit. Plain and simple. They won't even come near what hdrol will do, and hdrol is pretty much shit compared to a standard AAS stack.

Sorry to rain on your parade. I'm pretty pessimistic about the supplement industry to begin with. It's mostly crap sold to gullible people who don't read labels or even bother to do research to learn what they're using, so subsequently they come under the impression that some overpriced piece of garbage like "Animal Stak" is actually going to cause gyno. As if to suggest the cruciferous vegetable extract Universal includes in their shitty "proprietary blend" is basically the equivalent of dianabol, when in reality it's closer to being some Centrum shit. What a fucking joke.

 

[Digitalash]

I love the term "proprietary blend". Essentially they can pick an ingredient that maybe has some potential benefit, throw 1mg in there so they can list it on the label, and really you're not getting anything worthwhile even though that one ingredient may actually do something. teezhay is right though, when it comes to bodybuilding the only things that will help are protein supplements (if you can't get enough from diet), hormones, and creatine. I'm not a fan of creatine and never noticed much from it but it does have some data backing it as "performance enhancing", whether those extra two reps it adds to your workout actually translate into additional gains I really doubt.

 

[teezhay]

The supplement industry is such a mess. It's a total and absolute failure on behalf of our government to provide any level of protection for consumers.

 

[bw0434]

im not saying its gonna cause gyno,
im asking is it alright to take if im taking with the letro i got free pack of it.

 

[teezhay]

im not saying its gonna cause gyno,
im asking is it alright to take if im taking with the letro i got free pack of it.

The Vitamin C will be helpful for your immune system until it's excreted the next time you pee. In that sense, Animal Pak will be beneficial.

 

[overburdened]

The supplement industry is such a mess. It's a total and absolute failure on behalf of our government to provide any level of protection for consumers.

I agree the supp industry has been 'taking' people for a long time... but gov't isn't the answer.. look at Big Pharma(that's what happens when gov't gets involved in an industry)FUCK ALL THAT!!!... there have been some good aas(labeled prohormones) that the supp industry brought to market, that we wouldn't have had if DSHEA didn't exist.... I think that people should educate themselves, rather than the gov't having all power and deciding what is good for you or not.... if everyone educated theirselves, the shitty supps, along with the companies that make them, will lose money till the company goes bankrupt.... then, the problem solves itself... unfortunately, there will always be dumbasses to fall for the next 'big thing', and that 'miracle in a bottle'... so the worst of the worst will always be around, and some of the stand-up companies will fall by the wayside because they won't advertise with bullshit claims.......

 

[teezhay]

You really think the pharmaceutical market is an example of government becoming involved in medicine? That's just not the case. It's the other way around, my man. Pharmaceutical companies lobby Washington D.C. in ways that rival even big tobacco. Hell, they own Washington. Do you really think marijuana would still be illegal if not for major pharmaceutical interests and the alcohol lobby? There's no way.

You're confusing government's tendency to overreach and protect citizens from themselves (which never ends well), with a government's obligation to ensure corporate interests don't exploit, manipulate, and ultimately endanger American consumers. The latter is absolutely imperative, and when the feds decide they'll let a $25 billion industry walk all over consumers and never be held accountable for anything they do, that's a serious problem! There are virtually zero protective regulations, whereas supplements were once governed with strict quality control just like any food product is today by the FDA. It's not too much to ask for a company to be required to PROVE the contents of their product are as advertised. In fact, it's fairly standard practice internationally.

 

[bw0434]

hahah this off topic debate,
im not talking about animal pack
im talking about animal stak regards to it effecting the letro for my gyno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also whats better animal stak or animal m stak

 

[teezhay]

hahah this off topic debate,
im not talking about animal pack
im talking about animal stak regards to it effecting the letro for my gyno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also whats better animal stak or animal m stak

We're talking about Animal Stak as well. It's worthless shit, like every other herbal "test booster." The only "natural" compound I can think of that would be helpful at any time is DAA, in conjunction with a serious PCT regimen. And it doesn't matter whether you're using M Stak or Stak, they're both for 14-year-old boys who have money to waste.

 

[overburdened]

You really think the pharmaceutical market is an example of government becoming involved in medicine? That's just not the case. It's the other way around, my man. Pharmaceutical companies lobby Washington D.C. in ways that rival even big tobacco. Hell, they own Washington. Do you really think marijuana would still be illegal if not for major pharmaceutical interests and the alcohol lobby? There's no way.

You're confusing government's tendency to overreach and protect citizens from themselves (which never ends well), with a government's obligation to ensure corporate interests don't exploit, manipulate, and ultimately endanger American consumers. The latter is absolutely imperative, and when the feds decide they'll let a $25 billion industry walk all over consumers and never be held accountable for anything they do, that's a serious problem! There are virtually zero protective regulations, whereas supplements were once governed with strict quality control just like any food product is today by the FDA. It's not too much to ask for a company to be required to PROVE the contents of their product are as advertised. In fact, it's fairly standard practice internationally.

I completely agree with how your view of big pharma... but they wouldn't be running DC if they didn't have to answer to gov't, correct?... they are regulated... so they regulate(DC)... there is so much money to be made, it cannot be effectively regulated by greedy politicians(pharma has too deep pockets)

I do agree that supps should be mercy to regulation on meeting label contents, for sure!!! shit, even packaged food is subject to that!

but, If they are regulated further than that, they will just skirt laws as others do... by paying off lawmakers, and lobbying, which in itself is pretty much the same thing.... Many drugs that are released every year are either skated through approval(hiding side effects and effects found in clinical trials), or people are paid off to ignore such things. Then, they charge the exorbitant prices.... HOLY SHIT!!! have you priced out femara at a pharmacy??? fkn BS!!!(I understand these companies need to make a profit, they aren't in it for charity.... but $700+ for 75mg of letrozole...... when it costs less than $5 for the raw product.....)

 

[dawun]

animalstak is fine, but you should use pes erase,nolva, and the letro or aromasin if you need