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Another Police Vid

AKIRA said:
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Let me just warn you, no, you dont get to see the beginning. The camera is turned on after the guy is down. However, because the guy is DOWN, I feel that it makes the action that much worse.

Its black on black, so no racism here.
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This has been around a while, I don't feel bad for the guy though.
 
Ouch right in the shins! anyone who used to skate knows that shit hurts!

He shouldn't have resisted at all, but 2-3 cops couldn't do better than that?
 
Exactly. Two guys, with size, coudlnt get him to roll over? Chances are, one cop was pulling an arm, while the other is pushing. :lol:

In any case, cops have to deal with resistant apprehensions all the time, yet this way doesnt happen all the time.

min0 lee said:
This has been around a while, I don't feel bad for the guy though.
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Oh is it that old? Didnt know. :(
 
AKIRA said:
Exactly. Two guys, with size, coudlnt get him to roll over? Chances are, one cop was pulling an arm, while the other is pushing. :lol:

In any case, cops have to deal with resistant apprehensions all the time, yet this way doesnt happen all the time.



Oh is it that old? Didnt know. :(
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No problem at all.

It's not as easy as it looks, I've seen a teenage girl who weighed no more than 130 pounds on drugs give 4 grown adults a hard time.
 
AKIRA said:
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Let me just warn you, no, you dont get to see the beginning. The camera is turned on after the guy is down. However, because the guy is DOWN, I feel that it makes the action that much worse.

Its black on black, so no racism here.
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These guys aren't MMA fighters, you gotta think about the 200 yard chase that may have occured prior plus the 2.5 minute full strength struggle, after a point you get worn down and all you can do is whip out the baton, he seems so tired he cant keep a grip on the baton.....
 
maniclion said:
These guys aren't MMA fighters, you gotta think about the 200 yard chase that may have occured prior plus the 2.5 minute full strength struggle, after a point you get worn down and all you can do is whip out the baton, he seems so tired he cant keep a grip on the baton.....
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True...I am not a cop and don't have experience trying to do what they do, but I figured a full nelson would get their arms where you want them...and once you have one, the other shouldnt be THAT hard...maybe not? :hmmm:
 
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Fetusaurus Rex said:
True...I am not a cop and don't have experience trying to do what they do, but I figured a full nelson would get their arms where you want them...and once you have one, the other shouldnt be THAT hard...maybe not? :hmmm:
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Think about it, would you really want your body touching half of these perps?
You don't know what funk they carry.
 
maniclion said:
These guys aren't MMA fighters, you gotta think about the 200 yard chase that may have occured prior plus the 2.5 minute full strength struggle, after a point you get worn down and all you can do is whip out the baton, he seems so tired he cant keep a grip on the baton.....
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I am not an MMA fighter and I took a guy down the same size as me after running for 5 straight minutes (running full force) and hopping 3 fences. Just me. I am not a fighter, but I know what it takes to subdue someone and ill I do is work at a retail store. These guys are trained and certified....
 
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That officer completely abused his power. There isn't a doubt in my mind.
 
Pretty simple. He resisted and wouldn't comply. Now I believe three men should be able to subdue this person but I don't see any egregious act here.
 
Fuck 'em. He said "give me your hands" like 20 times.
 
Why should a police officer risk harming themselves when someone won't co-operate.

Everything could have been pretty simple, just stop and listen to the cops.
 
I am so damn tired of people bitching about the rights of criminals. did this guy treat who ever he wronged with respect when he broke the law? either you roll over or you get hit again. you beat my ass with a baton one time and i will be the most respectful compliant son of a bitch there is. hell, ill hand cuff myself. This dumb mother fucker was obviously too stupid to roll over to his stomach and let himself be handcuffed. I have little sympathy for him.
 
min0 lee said:
No problem at all.

It's not as easy as it looks, I've seen a teenage girl who weighed no more than 130 pounds on drugs give 4 grown adults a hard time.
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exactly.
 
bio-chem said:
I am so damn tired of people bitching about the rights of criminals. did this guy treat who ever he wronged with respect when he broke the law? either you roll over or you get hit again. you beat my ass with a baton one time and i will be the most respectful compliant son of a bitch there is. hell, ill hand cuff myself. This dumb mother fucker was obviously too stupid to roll over to his stomach and let himself be handcuffed. I have little sympathy for him.
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I knew youd come in here. And I am glad.

I dont give a shit about the criminal. I just think the cop is a pussy or excessive.

How many times did he hit him?
 
AKIRA said:
How many times did he hit him?
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The minimum amount needed for compliance. like i said if he would have hit me once i would have cuffed myself. this guy didn't.

i think many good points have been brought up. cops don't want to get too close to the guy. they dont know if their are needles in his pocket or if he will get an accidental stick.

I'm 6'1" and weigh 185 lbs. I bench 255 for 2 reps and I can do pull ups all day long. I've been training in BJJ and muay thai for 2 years now. I have also been certified in PCS training "bent wrist". I worked at a group home for at risk youth. kids aged between 12 and 17. all different sizes of kid.. These kids were in a high risk facility and there were up to 18 kids in the house. escorting these kids and having to subdue them was part of the job. I have a bit of experience in it. When the persons sole goal is to do nothing but resist you are going to get tired pretty damn fast.

the man had a choice. at any time he could have followed instructions and rolled over. there is no doubt in my mind you are capable of putting someone down and keeping them there. so where the cops. now try and add to that having an individual follow your instructions or using your training to force them into the position you need them to be in. it is a whole different ball game now
 
I like how the girls said he was getting hit for "no reason," ha.

Cop over here about 2 years ago shot a minor in the forehead, because he tried to defend himself against baton attack. He was on his knees on the lawn of someones house. No weapons were involved except the baton, and the police officers pistol. This all took place after the officer spotted him fighting with a friend over a bicycle. I know the family so I hear about this every now and then, they are still trying to get the word out.

The cop is still working. To get them to go away, the family was offered an amazingly large sum of $1500 to shut up about the incidient, obviously they said fuck you.

I also have a "friend" in the force nearby, I wont say what city, that just got back on after 2 years "desk duty" because he beat someone to near death. I bounced with some guys in the area at a bar where he was known for years as, "the striker." Slightly funny for me since I never had to deal with it, but I know the guy juices and has issues but yes, he is an officer of the law.

Cops are people too, flaws and all.
 
bio-chem said:
The minimum amount needed for compliance. like i said if he would have hit me once i would have cuffed myself. this guy didn't.

i think many good points have been brought up. cops don't want to get too close to the guy. they dont know if their are needles in his pocket or if he will get an accidental stick.

I'm 6'1" and weigh 185 lbs. I bench 255 for 2 reps and I can do pull ups all day long. I've been training in BJJ and muay thai for 2 years now. I have also been certified in PCS training "bent wrist". I worked at a group home for at risk youth. kids aged between 12 and 17. all different sizes of kid.. These kids were in a high risk facility and there were up to 18 kids in the house. escorting these kids and having to subdue them was part of the job. I have a bit of experience in it. When the persons sole goal is to do nothing but resist you are going to get tired pretty damn fast.

the man had a choice. at any time he could have followed instructions and rolled over. there is no doubt in my mind you are capable of putting someone down and keeping them there. so where the cops. now try and add to that having an individual follow your instructions or using your training to force them into the position you need them to be in. it is a whole different ball game now
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Dont forget, while youre getting tired from submitting him, hes getting tired too. Plus, depending on your position, you make actually be the one doing less work.

Hitting the guy in the knees with that...Ku-baton or something once wasnt enough? I see the guy grabbing his legs after hes struck. Well gee golly, why not try to grab his wrists now?

Not to mention, when the 3rd cop shows up to take over the other's work, guess what they resort to? The first method, even though the guy doesnt voluntarily put his hands behind his back. So using the weapon solved...what problem?
 
From what I saw, when they tried to grab his hands he would remove them to whine and grab himself. It appears to me he was resisting 100% of the time.
 
Mudge said:
From what I saw, when they tried to grab his hands he would remove them to whine and grab himself. It appears to me he was resisting 100% of the time.
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I would use my hands to try and cover up from being hit in the shins with a baton too...

I mean yea he shouldn't have resisted from the start, but this was unnecessary...
 
Trying to reason with a police officer and even saying "ahh come on, don't arrest me puhleaz" isn't going to do jack - so yeah don't even bother. Further, don't do this shit... it just gets bad.

See my aforementioned example, which of course would be a worst case scenario. Shot in the forehead while on your knees (with no weapon available) because you grabbed the baton to stop getting beat.
 
KelJu said:
Fuck 'em. He said "give me your hands" like 20 times.
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Exactly. He resisted the ENTIRE time. If he would had complied the first time, none of that would have happened. Now, could the cop used other means to subdue him? Probably. But you do what you have to with the least likely chance that the cop will get hurt. If he would have had to wrestle him to get him cuffed, he could have been injured. Cops don't play that. They will use what force necessary to invoke the arrest.
 
Mudge said:
Trying to reason with a police officer and even saying "ahh come on, don't arrest me puhleaz" isn't going to do jack - so yeah don't even bother. Further, don't do this shit... it just gets bad.
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That is resisting and delaying which will result in exactly what happened.
 
Yep.
 
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