Anvar/Test Cycle

[riggage]

Hey Guys,

I'm thinking of running an anavar cycle. Most of the info i have read is to run it with a test base. The anavar tabs i'm getting are 50mg, so i'll start off with half in the morning/half at night and then build up to 75mg.

As for the test, i'm in a situation where i can't really jab myself. My chick is on my ass 24/7. I can do orals without her knowing, but if she found needles or test vials she'd lose her shit!!

Is running something like ironmaglabs Ultra male RX or Anabolic Matrix RX going to give at least some boost as if i was doing test-e? I know it wouldn't be nearly as good as proper test but do you think it will work enough to increase results and help with libido etc?

Also is ironmaglabs on cycle support and e-blocker 2.0 going to be enough for PCT, or do i need to get clomid/Nolvadex.

Any advice would be great.

 

[strongman760]

A few buddies and myself have done var only cycles in past and they worked out well and with real var you don't need that much in my opinion but everyone's different. I get good results from 20-30mg a day of legit good anavar. My buddies in 30 mg right now and after 6weeks up 10lbs and looking lean(he did var only due to wife not allowing injections) so u don't have to do it with test but ofcourse better results would come with test added in

 

[Lost Grizzly]

Var will make your constipated for the first week then it passes for real. Var is very easy on the liver so people can get away with running Var with test. You want to run Var with another oral which will have a larger impact on your liver than just the Var. Keep than in mind.

 

[VictorZ06]

10lbs in 6 weeks off of 30mg of var? That is impressive....especially since you said he is looking leaner. No way I could pull that off.....




/V

 

[raysd21]

10lbs in 6 weeks off of 30mg of var? That is impressive....especially since you said he is looking leaner. No way I could pull that off...../V

Maybe it's just really good var and they are just really constipated still at the 6 week mark....

Seriously though if you can't do test. Find some 4-andro if it's still available. That stuff is the real deal. It converts straight to testosterone. If you can't do that at least inject HCG every week on top of your Ultra male RX.

But I would have to say if your buddies are getting results off 30mg of anything it's winstrol or dbol. Bros doses for anavar are like....60mg/day minimum. Absolute fucking minimum. How do you know your Var is real by the way. Did you send it to get tested?

 

[strongman760]

Victor it's his first ever cycle so that helps too but his results have been very impressive. When I gake it I don't really get any leaner but do gain a few solid lbs.

raysd1 Dbol makes my lower back pump and tighten up bad so not d Bol, win my makes my joints hurt so not win my but who knows maybe it's fake and it's placebo I guess since I didn't send it out to get tested and i actually have had great results off 15 mg of var before btc brand straight from pharmacy took it by itself but I didn't get it tested either so I don't know. Also I know a lot of guys that use probably what u think would be an absolute minimum and get great results it's not all about the doses. I'm sure your cycles r twice as
Big as mine and would say mine won't get me results just as others have told me but I always get stronger and gain decent off my cycles. I don't see a point in doing outrageous huge cycles when still seeing results with very safe doses. But that's my opinion

 

[raysd21]

I am a maximum minimum type of guy too Strongman. Whatever works. Fortunately I don't get backpumps at all from dbol. I know my dbol is good when my nips flare up. 30mgs dbol make my glands go crazy. I'm just doing 250mg test, 80mgs proviron, and 30mgs dbol having great results. Kind of a strong cruise still hitting PR's.

And it is nice to know when your anavar is legit. A lot of guys say they don't get shit from 30-50mgs of anavar. Bros expect a lot. Maybe thier BF% was so high they couldn't see the effect. Bros expect so much out of steroids. They don't realize half these guys are pumped up with synthol too. The look is just unattainable. Bros have delusions of grandeur.

And I thought that too about the 10lb gain. First cycles are always your best gainers.

 

[riggage]

So what's the consensus? That i should just run straight anavar 50mg a day without any ultra male RX?

 

[strongman760]

Raysd21 i agree people expect way too much out of steriids and most dont buikd any type of base before startibg steroid cycles.

Riggage It would be great if you could get a lil test in there too but if u can't I don't see a problem with just the anavar. As far as if the ironmag labs woukd help im not sure that woukd be a good questiin for heavyiron to answer. Have you ever run a cycle of anything before?

 

[johnsonl3872]

In my view you should get your wife straight if at all possible. Sneaking around? Is that what you want to do with your life?

 

[ldog]

Yeah bro...sneaking around with gear will cause you to be paranoid 24/7. You married or just dating this diva? You might ask Raysd21 for his feedback on the opposite sex. I hear he has mucho knowledge learned through his time spent at the plasma center. Plasma centers are stocked with divas trying to live large.

 

[riggage]

Yeah i did a halo extreme cycle about 4 months ago and was getting good results but then i got really sick so had to cut it 10 days short! Maybe i'll just do anavar/ 4-andro which converts to testosterone.

 

[ldog]

Always best to be upfront and honest for a clear conscience.

 

[johnsonl3872]

If your girl isn't down with your hobbies then you are going to have issues down the line.....


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[UberJedi]

I didn't tell my wife for a reason when I started. She believed all the bull shit about road rage and other nonsense. When she found my needles she was pissed and bombarded me with the usual media fear mongering bs. That's when I told her I had been on cycle for 4 weeks. BS cleared away.

 

[ldog]

Johnson is right bro.

 

[riggage]

I'll take my chances haha! Well i think i'm just gonna do anavar and anabloic matrix RX. If i was an experienced user then it seems like test would be the go, but i should get results off this combo hopefully. Considering i'm gettin 100x 50mg tabs, this cycle i can use half at 50mg a day and next cycle i might be womenless and can hit some test with it.

 

[johnsonl3872]

Depends on where you got the Var. I usually take 100mg a day when I take it. I don't know anything about the matrix stuff but my experience has been all test boosters are worthless.

 

[riggage]

Seems to be some confusion. Some places i read they say that legit anavar should be between 5-20mg tabs, so what's that say about 50mg tabs. That they're 5 times as weak as 10mg tabs? And if you've got legit anavar, 20-40mg a day is by far enough

 

[johnsonl3872]

Well you must know far more about it than I do then. Good luck.

 

[UberJedi]

You never told us what your other half has against your liver. What is her deal on no injections?

 

[strongman760]

I'm not sure what your trying to say about 50mg tabs being 5 times weaker than 10mg tabs?? It's just a different MG. Not sure what your saying or asking

 

[UberJedi]

He's asking that if legit is 10 mg and he has 50 ' does he have 40 mgs of rice powder and still only 10 of Anavar

 

[johnsonl3872]

I have never seen 50mg tabs of Var. Usually come 10-20mg.

 

[strongman760]

Never seen 50mg but I wouldn't be surprised if some ugl made them. Like Johnson said I've only seen 10-20 and 2.5 from prescription

 

[riggage]

yeah that's what i meant, as in are 50mg tabs truly 50mg of anavar, I guess it depends on the manufacturer though. The guy who's on them at my gym is doing 1.5 tabs a day (75mg) with test bi-weekly and after 4 weeks he's looking big, ripped and vascular as fk, so i'm assuming that means the stuff is legit. Oh you know, she's the whole omg steroids will kill you type of girl, so it's just easier to dodge the topic with her haha.

But from everything i've learnt so far, adding test bi-weekly at least will really help with putting on extra size and more noticeable gains, keeping the libido up and upping the alpha mode. heck, Maybe i'll just go over to my mates and jab there lol.

But i guess the underlying question was - Can you use one of ironmaglabs ultra male rx's or similar which are advised to be used in say a halo cycle to keep libido and test flow happening with anavar.

 

[johnsonl3872]

Id go to your buddies-Not sure who is advising you to use that Ultra stuff

 

[riggage]

Noones advising me to use it, i was just wondering if it CAN be used as like a half substitute for injecting test

 

[johnsonl3872]

No

 

[SoCalSwole]

If he knows a guy who is getting raws you can dose it however you want. 40mg 50, 10, 20. Whatever.