Bank customer arrested after warning teller of armed man

[troubador]

Don't outlaw open carry.
After all we all know that 'mentally disturbed' nut cases walking around on the streets that are able to pass a background check and legally obtain weapons never will use those legal weapons to shoot to death 12 people.

After all protecting the second amendment rights of the non mentally disturbed to be packing in the open is more important than public safety factors related to ticking time bomb 'mentally disturbed' people walking around that passed background checks carrying legal weapons and exercising their second amendment rights that then turn around and shoot to death 12 people with those legal weapons.

Everyone seeing a total stranger packing can know if they are crazy or not.
Isn't that right.

Strawman arguments that don't support your position.

 

[Bowden]

Bowden - scared shitless with misleading vividness.

Who's scared shitless?

Common sence dictates that when you see a total stranger walking down the street packing a weapon in the open you don't know if that person is mentally stable or not.
You don't know them, how do you know they are sane, rational, responsible and not 'mentally disturbed'?
Aaron Alexis is the poster child for 'mentally disturbed' people that legally obtain weapons and then use those weapons to commit mass murder.

Only a dumb ass would assume that ticking time bomb 'mentally disturbed' people will not carry a weapon in the open.

 

[LAM]

The Navy Yard shooting supports the uselessness of banning open carry.

you never spend one minute in the military nor do you have any clue what life on a military base is like. I can't think of anything worst then having a bunch of hyped up guys carrying of which the vast majority go out drinking when they are off duty. nothing could possible go wrong there.

you can go to any military base around the world in any country and you won't see off-duty personnel carry and there's a reason for that.

the Air Force uses private security to main their gates they don't even protect their own bases.

 

[troubador]

Don't outlaw open carry.
After all we all know that 'mentally disturbed' nut cases walking around on the streets that are able to pass a background check and legally obtain weapons never will use those legal weapons to shoot to death 12 people.

After all protecting the second amendment rights of the non mentally disturbed to be packing in the open is more important than public safety factors related to ticking time bomb 'mentally disturbed' people walking around that passed background checks carrying legal weapons and exercising their second amendment rights that then turn around and shoot to death 12 people with those legal weapons.

Everyone seeing a total stranger packing can know if they are crazy or not.
Isn't that right.

This is why anti-gunners suck so hard. Emotional vomit that offers zero evidence their agenda will work and even offers an example of where it failed to work. It's fucking amazing that some will use the Navy Yard shooting to try and argue that open carry should be banned. OPEN CARRY IS BANNED IN D.C.

 

[troubador]

you never spend one minute in the military nor do you have any clue what life on a military base is like.

I was literally born on a military base you stupid asshole.

 

[troubador]

Who's scared shitless?

Common sence dictates that when you see a total stranger walking down the street packing a weapon in the open you don't know if that person is mentally stable or not.
You don't know them, how do you know they are sane, rational, responsible and not 'mentally disturbed'?

I have no idea whether they are mentally stable. You seem to think it matters. Either make an actual argument or drop it. You sound like Piers Morgan.

 

[Bowden]

Strawman arguments that don't support your position.

My position is common sense.
If I don't know someone that is walking down the street then I don't know if they are sane, reasonable, responsible.
I have no idea who they are and what their mental state is.

The person that I don't know carrying doesn't have a sane, reasonable, responsible 'background check' or a psychological profile displayed on them in neon letters.

I do not assume that all strangers waking around are sane, reasonable, responsible.

People like Aaron Alexis that have used legally obtained weapons to mass murder people look just like anyone else walking down the street.
They do not have I am not sane, reasonable or responsible certified by a clinical psychiatrist post-em notes stapled to their foreheads.

 

[Bowden]

I have no idea whether they are mentally stable. You seem to think it matters. Either make an actual argument or drop it. You sound like Piers Morgan.

Yes I do think it matters and there is a difference between someone that is mentally stable, sane, rational and responsible carrying a weapon in the open down the street and someone that is not mentally stable , not sane, not rational and not responsible carrying a weapon down the street .
Only a dumbass doesn't think that it matters as to who can be trusted and that both types can be equally trusted with a weapon when they go out among the public and into public places.

 

[troubador]

People like Aaron Alexis that have used legally obtained weapons to mass murder people look just like anyone else walking down the street.
They do not have I am not sane, reasonable or responsible certified by a clinical psychiatrist post-em notes stapled to their foreheads.

He was bat shit crazy, banning open carry did not stop him.

 

[troubador]

Yes I do think it matters

It doesn't matter that I have no idea whether they are mentally stable. It doesn't change anything. I don't know if they have a permit. I don't know if someone is carrying concealed. Again, banning open carry would not stop a mass murder exactly like it didn't in the Navy Yard shooting.

 

[Bigjay73]

We have 2 main issues, mental health (DC, Aurora, Sandy Hook etc), and gang violence, (Chicago, Detroit, drug cartels). If you take away all the guns, these people will find other ways to kill. You have to fix the problems, not the methods they use to carry out their crimes.

 

[Zaphod]

Don't outlaw open carry.
After all we all know that 'mentally disturbed' nut cases walking around on the streets that are able to pass a background check and legally obtain weapons never will use those legal weapons to shoot to death 12 people.

After all protecting the second amendment rights of the non mentally disturbed to be packing in the open is more important than public safety factors related to ticking time bomb 'mentally disturbed' people walking around that passed background checks carrying legal weapons and exercising their second amendment rights that then turn around and shoot to death 12 people with those legal weapons.

Everyone seeing a total stranger packing can know if they are crazy or not.
Isn't that right.

This is biased since it is from Gun Owners of America, but the numbers are indisputable.

https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm

 

[Zaphod]

Yes I do think it matters and there is a difference between someone that is mentally stable, sane, rational and responsible carrying a weapon in the open down the street and someone that is not mentally stable , not sane, not rational and not responsible carrying a weapon down the street .
Only a dumbass doesn't think that it matters as to who can be trusted and that both types can be equally trusted with a weapon when they go out among the public and into public places.

Open carrying doesn't make someone any more or less stable than someone who is carrying concealed. The only difference is YOU don't know who is carrying concealed. Which is the point of concealed carry. Open carry reduces the time to get your weapon deployed when things go south. Carrying concealed increases that time. Open carrying is actually far more logical than concealed.

 

[Zaphod]

We have 2 main issues, mental health (DC, Aurora, Sandy Hook etc), and gang violence, (Chicago, Detroit, drug cartels). If you take away all the guns, these people will find other ways to kill. You have to fix the problems, not the methods they use to carry out their crimes.

But do you have a link for the NC story you mentioned?

 

[troubador]

The only difference is YOU don't know who is carrying concealed.

Exactly it's about how they feel around guns. You may have noticed he didn't bother to propose how it would stop a mass murderer.

 

[LAM]

We have 2 main issues, mental health (DC, Aurora, Sandy Hook etc), and gang violence, (Chicago, Detroit, drug cartels). If you take away all the guns, these people will find other ways to kill. You have to fix the problems, not the methods they use to carry out their crimes.

a gun is the weapon of choice by the coward because it's impersonal you can do it from affair, you don't get blood on your or hear the person in pain or take that last breath, etc.

take the guns away and people will simply make more bombs. any idiot with a high school education can make a bomb with a remote detonator they are so very simple to manufacture.

 

[Bigjay73]

But do you have a link for the NC story you mentioned?

Couldn't find the original, but here is a follow up story. Wasn't NC, my mistake. I must have read it on an NC shooter's forum when I was living there. Actually took place in Va.
18-year-old gets 40 years for two S. Richmond murders - Crime News - TimesDispatch.com

 

[Bigjay73]

And like I said, I'm in no way against open carry. Don't want you to take my post the wrong way.

 

[Zaphod]

They were in a physical altercation when the gun was taken.