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I think Swole is waste of money. After one tub i had little to no gains.
Thanks, GP, You the Man!
HEAT UP GRAPEJUICE, mix creatine in..and take it..best delivery system simple
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Although nowadays, I use Vitargo CGL with good results, My all time favorite is plain Micronized Creatine (Pfanstiehl) mixed with fresh sugarcane juice! It's tasty, easy and cheapest method to inject creatine into muscles.
sorry to get of subject, If you wanted to take creatine but you didnt have time to make shakes from powder, i read the liduid is a wast of money. now its pretty cheap and if there is a little bit of mass do you think it worth it?
Spitfire,
Just use creatine monohydrate powder and mix it in water, juice, or your favorite beverage. (simple as that). You don't have to put it in a shake.
Just use creatine monohydrate powder and mix it in water, juice, or your favorite beverage. (simple as that). You don't have to put it in a shake.
I believe that the delivery system on this product makes it the most effective creatine supplement...for all you old MM'er this is Terry Giles new company
http://www.vitalstate.com/html/products.aspx?html=RussianRed-Main
http://www.vitalstate.com/html/products.aspx?html=RussianRed-Main
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Adding protein to your carb+creatine drink can further enhance the amount of creatine your muscles absorb. Drinking a carb+protein+creatine drink post-workout would be the best possibly scenario. Maybe taking ALA at this time too for more benefit.
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My vote is for: None of the above. Dextrose, ALA, and exercise.
Eat a tub of Baskin Robbins Ice Cream and a bag of potato chips before and after each workout 
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What about good ole Creatine/dextrose ??? Much of what I've read and heard from people is nothing beats it. Just what I've read and heard peeps. Don't look at me for answers. lol
This article states creatine with Vitargo is superior 
Vitargo [R], a newly developed and patented high molecular weight carbohydrate from Sweden, is revolutionizing the way we take creatine. Vitargo [R] has such unique characteristics that you will never again consume creatine by itself or in combination with sugars like dextrose or maltodextrin. Vitargo [R] will not only deliver more creatine to your muscles than ever before, it also restores muscle energy (glycogen) 70% faster than any other carbohydrate. On top of that, Vitargo [R] is as potent in stimulating insulin as dextrose and yet it is completely sugar-free. Moreover, Vitargo [R] passes through the stomach 80% faster than dextrose, thus not causing the stomach discomfort and the bloated feeling so many creatine/dextrose users experience. Vitargo [R] plus creatine is pure dynamite and thanks to clinical tests at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, Volu-Gro [TM] has become the first product in the US which has been licensed to contain the proper amount of Vitargo [R] and creatine needed to pro duce superior creatine results.
FACT: Creatine with Vitargo [R] as found in Volu-Gro is vastly superior to current creatine formulas
The fusion of creatine with Vitargo [R] is a major advance in creatine technology. For the first time it has become possible to accelerate creatine transport from the stomach into the bloodstream. Mixed in water with creatine, the high molecular weight carbohydrate Vitargo [R] forms an extremely hypotonic solution which passes very quickly from the stomach into the bloodstream. The significance of this is that creatine and the insulin stimulating carbohydrate Vitargo [R] enter the bloodstream at the same time, which allows creatine and insulin to peak simultaneously. More creatine can now be transported to the muscles because of insulin's timely presence. This is not the case in regular creatine products or creatine/dextrose formulas, where creatine remains in the stomach much longer and insulin levels peak to soon as the following paragraph points out.
FACT: The Vitargo[R] component in Volu-Gro is rendering creatine with dextrose obsolete!
Most creatine formulas today depend on dextrose (a simple sugar) to raise insulin: the primary element responsible for transporting creatine to the muscles. Scientific studies however have long proven that dextrose is absorbed faster than creatine, which means the important insulin spike comes too soon and leaves a substantial portion of creatine without a carrier, and the creatine goes to waste. In scientific studies dextrose is therefore given 30 minutes after creatine, because scientists are well aware that dextrose and creatine do not peak in the bloodstream at the same time. Taking a creatine product which contains both creatine and dextrose will not give you the same results as seen in these studies. This inequality has now been solved through the fusion of creatine with Vitargo[R]. Vitargo[R] is equally as potent in stimulating insulin as dextrose, but because of Vitargo[R]'s much higher molecular weight and it's very low osmolality rate, Vitargo[R] has the distinct advantage of acting like a pump, pul ling creatine and water along with it from the stomach into the bloodstream. This ensures that creatine and insulin are present in the bloodstream at the same time. A much greater amount of creatine can now be transported into the muscles due to synchronized creatine and insulin levels.
Vitargo [R], a newly developed and patented high molecular weight carbohydrate from Sweden, is revolutionizing the way we take creatine. Vitargo [R] has such unique characteristics that you will never again consume creatine by itself or in combination with sugars like dextrose or maltodextrin. Vitargo [R] will not only deliver more creatine to your muscles than ever before, it also restores muscle energy (glycogen) 70% faster than any other carbohydrate. On top of that, Vitargo [R] is as potent in stimulating insulin as dextrose and yet it is completely sugar-free. Moreover, Vitargo [R] passes through the stomach 80% faster than dextrose, thus not causing the stomach discomfort and the bloated feeling so many creatine/dextrose users experience. Vitargo [R] plus creatine is pure dynamite and thanks to clinical tests at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, Volu-Gro [TM] has become the first product in the US which has been licensed to contain the proper amount of Vitargo [R] and creatine needed to pro duce superior creatine results.
FACT: Creatine with Vitargo [R] as found in Volu-Gro is vastly superior to current creatine formulas
The fusion of creatine with Vitargo [R] is a major advance in creatine technology. For the first time it has become possible to accelerate creatine transport from the stomach into the bloodstream. Mixed in water with creatine, the high molecular weight carbohydrate Vitargo [R] forms an extremely hypotonic solution which passes very quickly from the stomach into the bloodstream. The significance of this is that creatine and the insulin stimulating carbohydrate Vitargo [R] enter the bloodstream at the same time, which allows creatine and insulin to peak simultaneously. More creatine can now be transported to the muscles because of insulin's timely presence. This is not the case in regular creatine products or creatine/dextrose formulas, where creatine remains in the stomach much longer and insulin levels peak to soon as the following paragraph points out.
FACT: The Vitargo[R] component in Volu-Gro is rendering creatine with dextrose obsolete!
Most creatine formulas today depend on dextrose (a simple sugar) to raise insulin: the primary element responsible for transporting creatine to the muscles. Scientific studies however have long proven that dextrose is absorbed faster than creatine, which means the important insulin spike comes too soon and leaves a substantial portion of creatine without a carrier, and the creatine goes to waste. In scientific studies dextrose is therefore given 30 minutes after creatine, because scientists are well aware that dextrose and creatine do not peak in the bloodstream at the same time. Taking a creatine product which contains both creatine and dextrose will not give you the same results as seen in these studies. This inequality has now been solved through the fusion of creatine with Vitargo[R]. Vitargo[R] is equally as potent in stimulating insulin as dextrose, but because of Vitargo[R]'s much higher molecular weight and it's very low osmolality rate, Vitargo[R] has the distinct advantage of acting like a pump, pul ling creatine and water along with it from the stomach into the bloodstream. This ensures that creatine and insulin are present in the bloodstream at the same time. A much greater amount of creatine can now be transported into the muscles due to synchronized creatine and insulin levels.
I wish I had a link to the study that proved what you said to be true. I can't be bothered digging through my collection of muscle/fitness mags but whey protein isolate+carb+creatine is the bomb!!physicallyelite said:
Post workout is the best time to take your creatine. I like to add mine to my recovery drink. I add 10g creatine, 50g of whey protein isolate and 50g of a high glycemic carb in a 20 oz shaker cup with some water. Shake vigorously and drink it down immediately.
This is a new form of creatine in that it is bound to an ester making it FAR more absorbable from the gut into the bloodstream. Regular creatines are very poorly absorbed out of the gut because creatine itself has a dual charge, positive on one end and negative on the other (known in science as a "zwitterion"), and this makes it non-lipoliphic, or fat penetrating. So why does this matter? Well, this is becuase the cells that line the gut are lipid (fat) membranes, and thus regular creatine is not absorbed very well at all through these membranes. Think of it like if you took two magnets and tried to put them together and they "push away" from eachother.
Now, with CEEs, you have an ester attached to the creatine and esters are VERY lipoliphic, or fat penetrating. The ester carries the creatine right through the lipid membranes and into the bloodstream for transport to muscle cells. There is no bloating or gas in the stomach b/c the creatine does not just sit there waiting to get through, and there is MUCH more creatine available for your muscle cells!
So there you have some info! Whew!
Several companies sell CEEs, but I have to plug CEX by VPX b/c I work with them and b/c I take it myself and it works so freaking well.
Now, with CEEs, you have an ester attached to the creatine and esters are VERY lipoliphic, or fat penetrating. The ester carries the creatine right through the lipid membranes and into the bloodstream for transport to muscle cells. There is no bloating or gas in the stomach b/c the creatine does not just sit there waiting to get through, and there is MUCH more creatine available for your muscle cells!
So there you have some info! Whew!
Several companies sell CEEs, but I have to plug CEX by VPX b/c I work with them and b/c I take it myself and it works so freaking well.
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Whether you are kidding or not, its still an untrue statement that I did not appreciate...thats all. Others may not know you are "just giving me shit."
Well, you answered my question well, and I appreciate it. I will certainly look into using it, but regular creatine works well for me right now--plus I have lots of it to take first. Thank you for the info, though.gopro said:
PirateFromHell said:Well, you answered my question well, and I appreciate it. I will certainly look into using it, but regular creatine works well for me right now--plus I have lots of it to take first. Thank you for the info, though.
You are welcome. I always did well on regular creatine too. I especially like SAN V12 and Syntrax Swole...also love the effects of VPX Plasma Expandor, but hate the taste.
Good luck bro!
I have used Cell-Tech a few years back,worked great for me,but the price is kinda high,Now I have just been throwing a scoop of creatine with my postworkout drink.
