Best dumbell curl for biceps?

[KarlW]

Originally posted by Johnnny

Telling someone their biceps will grow from doing solely barbell rows & other back exercises is sh!tty advice.

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H.....e......l......l......o You have no idea what you are talking about.

You stick to your beliefs if that makes you happy.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Johnnny, are we going down that path again? Everyone disagrees with you and somehow you are apt to insult me..

To me it just sounds like ppl don't want to take the time to do a complete bicep routine.

That sounds like you're calling me lazy, J.

 

[Randy]

Just out of curiosity how do you work your biceps w/o doing back exercises?

Just like this guy Johnnny

 

[Rocco32]

Hey Johnnny- Bullshit!

 

[Johnnny]

rock4832

Hey Johnnny- Bullshit!

You really are proving yourself to be uneducated & to have a limited vocabulary.

Randy that's a funny pic.

I guess some of these guys don't mind looking like that LOL

I'm going to stick with what I know. Next week I'm going to try a 145lb barbell curl.

Maybe one day rock4832 will realize the importance of doing a regular bicep routine.

Duncans Donuts

That sounds like you're calling me lazy, J.

You can take however you like it.

 

[Rocco32]

rock4832



You really are proving yourself to be uneducated & to have a limited vocabulary.

Randy that's a funny pic.

I guess some of these guys don't mind looking like that LOL

I'm going to stick with what I know. Next week I'm going to try a 145lb barbell curl.

Maybe one day rock4832 will realize the importance of doing a regular bicep routine.

Duncans Donuts



You can take however you like it.

Maybe one day Johnnny, aka bullshiter, will stop lying about everything, learn how to read and comprehend and make informed decisions for himself. But who knows...

 

[Pumpster]

I'm not a believer in compounds. For bis, back work will just warm them up well 'cause i'm not going to choose exercises that put them into anything other than secondary roles; no CG chins. Many like compounds like CGBs, I never use em and think they're hard on the joints.

The idea that small muscles can't handle as much is just another theory, since calves can handle about as much work as any muscle.

 

[LittleKid]

What turned out to be an innocent thread, turned into people wanting to choke the other person till he suffocates.

 

[Rocco32]

What turned out to be an innocent thread, turned into people wanting to choke the other person till he suffocates.

Just Johnnny, we don't like him

 

[Rocco32]

Close grip chins are excellent for bis, but there's NO way that this is good enough for everyone, since the effect varies from one person to the next. Many on this site like a compound like CGBs, I think they blow and are hard on the joints.

Bis aren't necessary burnt out from back exercises, they're hit only indirectly on many of them obviously, and the idea that small muscles can't handle it makes no sense to me-calves are small muscles yet can take a sh-- load of work.

First off, effect does not vary from person to person. It may hurt some people with injuries but the muscle gets worked the same for everybody.

And yes Bi's are burnt out from back exercises. What do you think gives out while working back?!? Bi's or back- bi's of course.

 

[Pumpster]

Then you're doin' them wrong. If you're doing back exercises the right way, the burn and failure's happening in your back; if it isn't it's time to change your workout. I barely notice biceps while training back, 'cause i've experimented and found exercises that hit the back; looks like you have some work and thought ahead of you.

If you didn't know until now that exercises affect people differently, welcome to reality. We're different heights, different ratios, etc.

 

[Randy]

Discussing workout routines in this forum anymore is like talking about religion or politics

 

[Pumpster]

Amen.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Then you're doin' them wrong. If you're doing back exercises the right way, the burn and failure's happening in your back; if it isn't it's time to change your workout. I barely notice biceps while training back, 'cause i've experimented and found exercises that hit the back; looks like you have some work and thought ahead of you.

Nonsense.

The only way to hit the lats without hitting the weak link of the biceps is to transfer the motion directly through the elbow. As far as I know, very few machines are capable of this.

As far as deadlifts are concerned, the forearms go out well before the back does..

 

[KarlW]

I barely notice biceps while training back 'cause i've experimented and found exercises that hit the back;

Just because they don't burn doesn't mean they haven't failed first.
what exercises do you do for back?

 

[Rocco32]

Nonsense.

The only way to hit the lats without hitting the weak link of the biceps is to transfer the motion directly through the elbow. As far as I know, very few machines are capable of this.

As far as deadlifts are concerned, the forearms go out well before the back does..

 

[Rocco32]

Then you're doin' them wrong. If you're doing back exercises the right way, the burn and failure's happening in your back; if it isn't it's time to change your workout. I barely notice biceps while training back, 'cause i've experimented and found exercises that hit the back; looks like you have some work and thought ahead of you.

If you didn't know until now that exercises affect people differently, welcome to reality. We're different heights, different ratios, etc.

DD and Karl already responded to the first part of your post so I'll just respond to the second. A muscle is a muscle is a muscle.... Everyone's muscles contract and work the same. Same physiology down the line for growing muscles. It doesn't vary per person. It's the identy principle. High reps work for some but not others and crap like that is false. Everyone's muscles work the same.

 

[LittleKid]

Discussing workout routines in this forum anymore is like talking about religion or politics

I think biceps is a very touchy subject.

 

[Rocco32]

I think biceps is a very touchy subject.

So is upper chest.

 

[KarlW]

They are the important 'showy' muscles through the eyes of the inexperienced, uneductaed masses, that is why.

 

[Randy]

I think biceps is a very touchy subject.

Let see what was Princes philosophy on this matter... Oh Yes, "Nobody here most likely has 20 inch biceps, so who the F cares about all this techno mumbo jumbo, just do curls!" I think it was somewhere on those lines.

 

[KarlW]

Randy that your pooch? he/she? Staffy?

 

[Randy]

If you're referring to my avatar....naw, that one is not mine.
Pretty kewl dawg though, wouldn't mind having one like that
But I already have a spoiled one of my own.

 

[Cold Iron]

Then you're doin' them wrong. If you're doing back exercises the right way, the burn and failure's happening in your back; if it isn't it's time to change your workout. I barely notice biceps while training back, 'cause i've experimented and found exercises that hit the back; looks like you have some work and thought ahead of you.

If you didn't know until now that exercises affect people differently, welcome to reality. We're different heights, different ratios, etc.

Hi Johnnny

 

[Rocco32]

Hi Johnnny

Good call! That is EXACTLY the way Johnnny talks and how about that timing?!? Just join and your first post is in this thread, LOL.

 

[Johnnny]

rock4832

Maybe one day Johnnny, aka bullshiter, will stop lying about
everything, learn how to read and comprehend and make informed decisions for himself. But who knows...

Not to my surprise you continue to be your uneducated self.

But you accuse me of lies, I only speak the truth.

Truly sad dude, maybe one day you will get a life.

 

[Rocco32]

rock4832



Not to my surprise you continue to be your uneducated self.

But you accuse me of lies, I only speak the truth.

Truly sad dude, maybe one day you will get a life.

Is this Pumpster or Johnnny?!? LOL. Dude, you have got to get a life!!!

 

[CowPimp]

I think 6-9 sets maximum for biceps is just fine

I think you should consider trying less volume. I have done bicep routines with that level of volume in the past, and it was less effective than below that. Some people can probably handle that amount of volume, but I tend to train to faluire on a good portion of my working sets.

Let me guess you're the only one who has big arms right?

I like how you put words in his mouth.

My bicep routine will not cause over training & it is the perfect routine that many ppl for many, many years have been using.

Oh, many people use it. Great. That doesn't prove anything. Many people also totally stagnate in their gains, many people have small arms, and many people lift based on very little solid knowledge.

3 different bicep exercises to hit the muscle from all angles.

Do you even know what that means? Muscles don't know angles, they only know tension.

A typical bicep routine that I've seen thousands of ppl do since I started training at 15yrs old is

2-3 sets of standing barbell curls, 2-3 sets of standing db hammer curls, 2-3 sets of a preacher or concentration curl.

Again, this means nothing. Refer to my previous statements.

& so far for years it has been the most beneficial bicep routine.

Care to provide some sort of scientific study to back this up?

To me it just sounds like ppl don't want to take the time to do a complete bicep routine.

I do a bicep routine, just not your bicep routine.

 

[Johnnny]

rock4832

Is this Pumpster or Johnnny?!? LOL. Dude, you have got to get a life!!!

I think you should look in the mirror yourself before you start telling other ppl to get a life.

You are just reall sad.

cowpimp

Oh, many people use it. Great. That doesn't prove anything. Many people also totally stagnate in their gains, many people have small arms, and many people lift based on very little solid knowledge.

1. If you think an 18 or 19 inch arm for natural than what do you consider large for a natural training person?

I'm not 19 probably about 18 inches & I'm only 200lbs

Let me guess rock4832 bullshit right? You are so undeducated it's not even funny.

Oh, many people use it. Great. That doesn't prove anything. Many people also totally stagnate in their gains, many people have small arms, and many people lift based on very little solid knowledge.

2. As far as the other natrual training ppl who follow a regular weekly bicep routine they average at least 17 inches if not more.

Care to provide some sort of scientific study to back this up?

How about the simple proof that my arms have grown in size & strenght.

I do a bicep routine, just not your bicep routine.

Let me guess your bicep routine starts off with Barbell rows, then on to some chins, some T-bar rows & I guess instead of preacher or concentration curls you'll finish off your bicep routine with seated cable rows.

 

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