Best "pull" exercise besides...

[themamasan]

...Chin ups or pull ups?


I usually do these first in my back exercise workout, but recently have not made any more strength gains. So what would be a good substitute for the beginning of my back workout? Once that could get me over the plateau and will work upper back while hitting the biceps hard as well.

 

[LexusGS]

i personally like reverse flys and wide grip rows

 

[fufu]

Rows?

 

[GFR]

DB rows
BB rows
T-bar rows
Dead lifts

 

[Bakerboy]

How can you row 320 for 8 reps and yet only are able to do 6 chin ups??

My guess is you have long arms. Is this true? I think pull ups and chin ups are a bit easier if you have shorter arms.

 

[GFR]

How can you row 320 for 8 reps and yet only are able to do 6 chin ups??

My guess is you have long arms. Is this true? I think pull ups and chin ups are a bit easier if you have shorter arms.

It is some fake cable row number,,,,,they never equate to free weights.

 

[CowPimp]

I'm still partial to good ol' bent rows. I don't feel they get enough love because they are fucking hard!

 

[mike456]

CP- I agree 100%, bent rows are fucking hard!!

 

[themamasan]

How can you row 320 for 8 reps and yet only are able to do 6 chin ups??

My guess is you have long arms. Is this true? I think pull ups and chin ups are a bit easier if you have shorter arms.

Yes I have very long arms. And the row machine in question is the Hammer Strength row machine. I think it is called the Iso-Lateral Row? The row is almost completely horizontal with the ground (no cables). And the other machine I use (which works the lats more) you are almost pulling down from an angle. I put 6 45lb plates on it and 2 25lb plates. I am at the exact strength level on both machines.

As for the chin-ups, I don't know why I am so weak on them. I only have been doing them for about 7 months, and made big gains (when I started out I needed around 80lbs of help to get 6 reps), but now I am pretty much stuck.

 

[themamasan]

It is some fake cable row number,,,,,they never equate to free weights.

You're right about the cables not equaling free weights. The one cable machine that I do rows on is set at "200" when I do 8 reps.

 

[Bakerboy]

Power cleans

 

[themamasan]

Power cleans

Oooh yeah, good one. I haven't done that since High School, but I remember them being one hell of an exercise.

 

[dontsurfonmytur]

for bent over BB rows, ur upperbody needs 2 be almost paralle to the floor right?

 

[LexusGS]

for bent over BB rows, ur upperbody needs 2 be almost paralle to the floor right?

thats how i do it with light weight, with heavy weight i find it impossible to be parallel!!!

 

[CowPimp]

for bent over BB rows, ur upperbody needs 2 be almost paralle to the floor right?

I try to come very close, but I'm usually not quite parallel.

 

[P-funk]

I don't know that there is a real "best", but I love chin ups.

 

[Tough Old Man]

I don't know that there is a real "best", but I love chin ups.

Chin ups or Pullups?

Also there's no way a person is going to be parallel to the floor and do super heavy ass weight with bent over rows. To much strain on the lower back. I do around 300 lbs for reps but around a 45 degree angle to the floor.

 

[P-funk]

chin ups. love'em.

 

[P-funk]

Chin ups or Pullups?

Also there's no way a person is going to be parallel to the floor and do super heavy ass weight with bent over rows. To much strain on the lower back. I do around 300 lbs for reps but around a 45 degree angle to the floor.

My buddy that is a power lifter gets over 300lbs and parallel to the floor. he also deadlifts 700+, so I think he can handle it.

 

[Tough Old Man]

My buddy that is a power lifter gets over 300lbs and parallel to the floor. he also deadlifts 700+, so I think he can handle it.

there's always an exception, but no one on this site is going to deadlift 700 lbs in there life time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[P-funk]

there's always an exception, but no one on this site is going to deadlift 700 lbs in there life time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

maybe.

 

[Brutus_G]

BB rows overhand grip i used to hate em now i love em.

 

[Brutus_G]

Yes I have very long arms. And the row machine in question is the Hammer Strength row machine. I think it is called the Iso-Lateral Row? The row is almost completely horizontal with the ground (no cables). And the other machine I use (which works the lats more) you are almost pulling down from an angle. I put 6 45lb plates on it and 2 25lb plates. I am at the exact strength level on both machines.

As for the chin-ups, I don't know why I am so weak on them. I only have been doing them for about 7 months, and made big gains (when I started out I needed around 80lbs of help to get 6 reps), but now I am pretty much stuck.

I feel u man i got the same prob. But im now better at chins

 

[PWGriffin]

there's always an exception, but no one on this site is going to deadlift 700 lbs in there life time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Prolly not a raw lift....but I think I gotta shot....I'm close to 500 now, I'm only 22 and weighin in at 182 right now....

 

[CowPimp]

MJH had a video on here of him pulling like 625 at age 21 at a little over 200.

I remember Chris Mason had a video of him pulling 625 or so as well.

 

[PWGriffin]

MJH had a video on here of him pulling like 625 at age 21 at a little over 200.

I remember Chris Mason had a video of him pulling 625 or so as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to underestimate a 700lb deadlift...but that's my strongest lift, and I keep getting better at them...I can pull 455 pretty good a couple times and this is the first time in my life (used to have lower back pains until pretty recently) that I've been able to deadlift semi consistently...now it's a weekly thing, it's by far my favorite exercise.

 

[CowPimp]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to underestimate a 700lb deadlift...but that's my strongest lift, and I keep getting better at them...I can pull 455 pretty good a couple times and this is the first time in my life (used to have lower back pains until pretty recently) that I've been able to deadlift semi consistently...now it's a weekly thing, it's by far my favorite exercise.

You will most definitely have to put on quite a bit of weight to pull 700 though. 700 at your body weight is probably a world record or very close to it. The road to 700 is pretty fucking crazy. You will also have to start training specifically to raise your deadlift; that is, you will have to train like a powerlifter.

 

[LexusGS]

one of these days kefe will do it