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gopro said:
Ok, so I guess we will not be meeting onstage...oh well...figured that. Anyway, in regard to your mention about my name gopro, and me turning pro. Here is one piece of info for you that you may find interesting...I earned my natural pro card in my early 20s in an organization called the ANPPC. I won it at a pro qualifier in Las Vegas, and it was truly awesome to do so. However, before I even had a chance to do my first pro show, they "closed shop." But what can you do. As far as my present pro efforts, it has not happened for one reason...I haven't competed again. Why? $ is the answer. I just opened a gym which I wanted to get established, started writing for magazines and websites, and then recently was headhunted to work for VPX and I sold my gym and moved. Now I am busier than ever. However, now that I am getting settled in I will target a show for 2005 and go for the pro card. And I will do it naturally even though at this point, the upper natural level shows are completely inundated with drugs........SAD.

One more question, how old are you again GoPro?
 
chris mason said:
Now, as to your challenge and Jersey Devil's comments as well as yours. If anyone reading this had a modicum of intelligence they will realize I posted the first challenge which YOU declined.
So now your insulting my intelligence? Sorry but I won't stoop to your level. When you first arrived here Chris I thought you would be a good contributor. It is rather obvious to me now however, that you thrive on confrontation. I hate that in a person.
 
I'll take a few pics in a few weeks and get some back shots and put them up.

Instead of making this a Chris vs Eric thing, why don't a few more do the same? Might actually be fun. And plus, i've wanted to see updated photos of Eric for fuckin' yonks with no joy so there's incentive in it for me also.
 
Alright, I have a pic of my back up. Now don't bombard me all at once everyone on how I was able to build such a massive back. Just one question at a time, LOL :)
 
chris mason said:
GoPro, I am laughing a bit now. Why is it that when questioned about this VERY SAME topic on wbb you never mentioned being pro in any organization? Why did you say you would SOON be competing to turn pro and omit this new tidbit?

Now, as to your challenge and Jersey Devil's comments as well as yours. If anyone reading this had a modicum of intelligence they will realize I posted the first challenge which YOU declined. My challenge was VERY simple, it merely required you post a recent picture or video of your back on this site. How hard can that be? Your "challenge" on the other hand would require months of dieting, travel for at least one of us, and would provide either one of us the opportunity to drug ourselves up in order to prove a point. A much more unrealistic proposition. So, who here is the real pussy, the guy who will not accept the first, very simple challenge, or the guy who retorts with something he knows is not going to happen in order that he might look cool to his supporters?

I will now bow out of this particular back and forth regardless of how hard it may be not to retort when you respond to this post.

In the end I certainly don't think I have EVEN CLOSE to a great physique, but I DO think my physique is a nice example of what a natural (for 14+ years) trainee can do both in terms of size and strength (make that a natural trainee who is married with 3 kids and runs one medium sized business and is the co-owner of another smaller business).

Nice try Chris. Nice way to try and turn this around. Lets do the months of dieting...the travel (I'll come to you)...and as far as the drugs, well, out of the two of use, you are the only one that used them.

I keep trying to squash this but your big, huge, massive (obviously this is your biggest "bodypart") ego keeps causing you to strike back at me. This shows alot of insecurity on your part.

Now, the reason why I don't bother taking a picture of myself, when I NEVER do so, is because I won't get down to your pathetic level. And, like I said, you are not worth my time and effort. Now, if we got ready for a show, that is something I will be doing anyway, so you would be secondary to me. If you were a high level natural bodybuilder that I would soon be competing against I might for the fun of it, want to post up pics to make things more interesting. However, all you are is an egotistical loudmouth that does not ever want to be wrong, and is full of insecurities. You are a big guy and a strong guy and you know alot about training...and yes, a fine example of what can be accomplished naturally (save for some early steroid use). That is where it ends.

As far as the "pro" thing...that is something I rarely bring up because it happened long ago and since the organization is now defunct, I can no longer consider myself a pro, although I DID in fact win my pro card. Whether you believe me or not is of little consequence to me.

Hopefully, this is where this will end and you can continue to post your pics and shoot your little videos and continue to share your knowledge with others.

And by the way, I'm going to be 36.
 
I love how everyone avoids my comments because they realize how worthless, petty, and immature this whole argument is. Oh well, continue your bickering. I'm not even going to look in this thread anymore. It's a dissapointment.
 
CowPimp said:
I love how everyone avoids my comments because they realize how worthless, petty, and immature this whole argument is. Oh well, continue your bickering. I'm not even going to look in this thread anymore. It's a dissapointment.
I am not ignoring it. I am sorry about the direction this thread has taken, I did not intend it to do so.

Eric, just like in the past, cannot help but bullshit and I, just like in the past, cannot help but call him on it.

I will endeavor not to do so in the future.
 
chris mason said:
I am not ignoring it. I am sorry about the direction this thread has taken, I did not intend it to do so.

Eric, just like in the past, cannot help but bullshit and I, just like in the past, cannot help but call him on it.

I will endeavor not to do so in the future.

I'm sorry about the direction this thread had taken as well, but when it comes to Chris I cannot let it go b/c he is a "grown up bully" that needs to be put in his place. Apparently when he was young and stealing other kids' lunch money nobody has the balls to stand up to him creating a pattern till this day.

Chris, please name ONE THING that I have bullshitted about in this entire thread...AND, please accept my challenge to meet me onstage so I can shut your fat mouth once and for all.

Or, choose to not even answer me back and it will be squashed until next time you open your mouth again. Or maybe you should just save the trouble and stay over at WBB...trust me that I won't go over there again and thus you can play God all you want, which will keep your ego filled to the brim.

**As to everyone else, please understand that although occassional BS like this must be dealt with...and you may not agree with the way I handle it (which is ok...you do things your way and I do things my way)...that my MAIN purpose here is to always help you out as much as I possibly can and to hasten you on your path to reaching your bodybuilding/fitness goals.
 
Wow, when I bumped this thread from a year ago, this isn't where I meant it to go. I said I disagreed with parts, but as those parts did not in any way lessen the ideas presented, I said it was a solid post.

The ideas presented in the first post are a great way for any lifter to structure work for their back. Do I agree with the angles and whatever? No. Do I think any lifter can and will benefit? Absolutely.
 
Lol, ok GoPro, you asked for it.

You see, there is something about the internet which harms lairs like yourself. Everything you type is reserved for posterity sake...

Let's take a look at a post you made on www.wannabebig.com some time back:

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Thanks for posting a link to that pic Mr A. Just in case you are curious, that pic was taken at a show I did in 1999, weighing in at 198. I was shredded that day, but came in too flat...tried something new with my carb load that I did not respond well to. I still managed 4th at that show which isn't bad considering it was my first shot at a pro qualifier(drug free org.).

This year I should compete about 15-18 lbs heavier with even better hardness and density. I am still in off season training, but about ready to transition into a "pre" pre-contest mode.

Monstar...thanks for the compliment.

Yes, let this thread continue about arm training. I have nothing more to say to Chris, and I hope he has nothing more to say to, or about, me.
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Ok, so that was in 1999 when you did your first pro qualifier according to your own words then.

Now, here is a quote from this thread:

"Ok, so I guess we will not be meeting onstage...oh well...figured that. Anyway, in regard to your mention about my name gopro, and me turning pro. Here is one piece of info for you that you may find interesting...I earned my natural pro card in my early 20s in an organization called the ANPPC. I won it at a pro qualifier in Las Vegas, and it was truly awesome to do so."

Now, in this thread you said you will soon be 36. So, you would have been in your early 20s in the late 80s.

So, you lied then or you are lying now, which one is it?

Oh, and remember, you asked me to point our your b.s.

I had actually made this same post earlier today and had deleted it, but you have pushed me to repost it.
 
Just calling a spade a spade. When someone calls me out I respond...


I am sorry about this crap on your site (my part in it) and will refrain from it in the future.
 
chris mason said:
Just calling a spade a spade. When someone calls me out I respond...


I am sorry about this crap on your site (my part in it) and will refrain from it in the future.

Moron...that was the first pro qualifier I did since the ANPPC went defunct. Do you want me to mail you my trophy? Cause if that will help, I will. The ANPPC show was actually in 1990, and I was 21 at the time.

So, once again you have proved yourself the ass that you are, and have shown that your 3 children probably have a leg up on you in the maturity department as well.

I think you better start being a better role model to them if your behavior on message boards is any indication of how you are in other areas of your life.

In your next video I hope you can shoot yourself in the process of growing up...
 
Saturday Fever said:
Wow, when I bumped this thread from a year ago, this isn't where I meant it to go. I said I disagreed with parts, but as those parts did not in any way lessen the ideas presented, I said it was a solid post.

The ideas presented in the first post are a great way for any lifter to structure work for their back. Do I agree with the angles and whatever? No. Do I think any lifter can and will benefit? Absolutely.

Of course you didn't mean it to go this way SNF, buy then you had no clue that Chris would start acting like a 3 year old.

Thanks for the bump though.
 
Saturday Fever said:
Wow, when I bumped this thread from a year ago, this isn't where I meant it to go. I said I disagreed with parts, but as those parts did not in any way lessen the ideas presented, I said it was a solid post.

The ideas presented in the first post are a great way for any lifter to structure work for their back. Do I agree with the angles and whatever? No. Do I think any lifter can and will benefit? Absolutely.


so youre the one to blame.... :laugh:
 
gopro man, you're the biggest beast. Can i please see your pictures to see what hard work can accomplish?
 
:lol: What a thread. Gopro, are you still going to compete this year..?
 
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What a joke this thread is.

:laugh:
 
ph8bringer said:
Heh, but it just gave me good back info, because I've never seen this thread before.
Agreed... Much of what GP said, I incorporate into my routine... nice to confirm what I'm doing comes reccommended...
 
pumpthatiron said:
gopro man, you're the biggest beast. Can i please see your pictures to see what hard work can accomplish?

WOW...this thread was certainly brought back from the dead!! :eek:

Well, thanks for the compliment, but I'm far from the biggest beast...Ronnie may have me there, LOL...although he has a few more chemicals floating around his body than I do!! :)

As far as pics go...still don't have any recent ones. Not much of a picture taker.
 
PreMier said:
:lol: What a thread. Gopro, are you still going to compete this year..?

Yeah, really! LOL!

Will I compete? Good question. Part of me would love to do it again...part of me would hate to do it again. I know I could be the best I ever was this year, but not sure if I want to make the sacrifices involved to get there anymore.
 
ph8bringer said:
Heh, but it just gave me good back info, because I've never seen this thread before.

Then I'm glad it was ressurrected :thumb:
 
i'm a thread digger loll. I bring threads back from the dead. Gopro man, please take some pictures..
 
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