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[gopro]

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[David Tolson]

This product is amazing.

Not only are the majority of the ingredients underdosed and/or useless, but the price is still unjustifiably high after the deal. On top of that, you get ephedrine and yohimbine together, and there are about 100 reasons not to take this combination.

I still want to buy it though. I mean, with a product description such as this, who wouldn't?

Clenbutrx's pharmacodynamics revolve around a synergism encompassing thermogenisis, neruogenisis, thyrogenisis, insulinogenisis and antiestrogenisis.

Holy shit, I think I became retarded just reading that.

 

[Eggs]

If you didnt want to buy it you could have just said so and given your reasons. Your sarcastic little statements didnt really contribute all that much.

If you're the David Tolson from BN, which it very much looks like you are, I'd hope that degree in biochemistry or whatever you are studying for gives you more cause to provide evidence for what you claim and not just to make noise.

I wouldnt make the purchase either... but regardless, attaching your name and company to a jackass post reflects poorly on both you and them. Mike at 1Fast is a cool guy and I enjoy the service he provides... I'd hope you would act in a manner that compliments that instead of detracting from it.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

there was no need for a negative post regarding the clen. GoPro wasn't shilling anything. it was a freaking announcement of a substantial savings. If this was indeed an employee of Bulk nutrition making that sarcastic comment, then my opinion of Bulk nutrition just went into the shitter! I won't be buying from Bulk nutrition any time soon.
my posts about the endless shilling and obvious sham advertising on this board are about the "falseness " and false sincerity of the person making the posts themselves.
perhaps, rather than continuing with your studies in biochemisty, you should take a course in interpersonal skills development 101. you must not have shared your toys in kindergarden.

 

[SZ03]

lets relax guys. If you do not like his comments do not follow them or just ignore them

While he did throw a cheap shot at VPXs marketing (a lot of people do outside this board), he was just making a statement about the product.

I am not sure if working for 1fast has to do with anything since Mike also sells this product

SZ

 

[SZ03]

On a side note this statement is quite funny:

Clenbutrx's pharmacodynamics revolve around a synergism encompassing thermogenisis, neruogenisis, thyrogenisis, insulinogenisis and antiestrogenisis.



I am assuming they mean genesis not genisis, which means the "creation of"

taking that statement

ClenX will

thermogenisis: create heat--makes sense

neruogenisis: I am assuming that means Neurogenesis, which means the production of new nervous tissue/neurons. I am not exactly sure what ingredient in ClenX would do that. LOL

Thyrogenesis: To tell you the truth I am not sure if that word even exists. PUBMED returns no results for that word. I am assuming they mean it will optimize thyroid function or it will create a new thyroid to increase metablic rate. Maybe that is where is the neurogenesis part comes in? To innervate the new thyroid??

Insulinogenesis: the formation and release of insulin by the islands of Langerhans. According to this ClenX will increase the release of Insulin, which I thought was bad for wait loss.

antiestrogenisis: ClenX will fight the formation of estrogen. Again I do not know if that is true since I have not looked at the ingredients extensively.

I think David was making the point (even though he was more hostile towards the product) that the statement, aside from gross mispellings was a bunch of big words thrown together. Most of them used incorrectly, others probably not true, but to the avg person sound good since they never bother checking out what they actually mean.



Anyways that being said i have used the product and it was the best in terms of energy since I used Ultimate Orange. It was likely due to the combo of ephedra and Yohimbine, but it did give me a kick in the behind. Not sure about the fat burning potency though.

SZ

 

[Eggs]

Marcus - I wouldnt stop buying from 1Fast if David writes for them... a more appropriate action would probably be to tell him to word his thoughts more as constructive criticism rather than simply talking smack. The service 1Fast provides is in no way in question with this... just a guy getting a bit too gung-ho in the wording of an advertisement.

SZ03 - I understood Davids point quite clearly, and in some regards I agree with him. However, he can back what he is saying up without trying to be offensive... and that was my point.

As to not following anybodys posts... I in no way came to this thread to see his posting. However, being that if he can make a posting, I am certainly entitled to respond to it. Right?

That said, VPX could do well to utilize the English language a bit more efficiently.

neurogenisis: Formation of nervous tissue.

thyrogenisis: No definition.

insulinogenesis: Production of insulin.

antiestrogenisis: No definition.

Obviously a poor use of word formation, done to excite people who dont know any better, or perhaps taking for granted that people would connect the words without criticism. Ah well

 

[MarcusMaximus]

i don't believe in negative advertisements. i leave that for the politicians.
if 1fast or bulk nutrition endorses the comments that this fellow made, then it reflects poorly on the company.

as for the other comments by Sz; perhaps you could direct these same comments about ignoring or not following the advice to this David person. It is always the same; person A makes a negative comment,. person B takes person A to task for the negative comment and someone always comes back to person B.

and then there is the case that someone is always telling someone else on the internet to " chill out bro" or ' relax " when i can't imagine being any more relaxed. i have to laugh. probably just me tho. makes for interesting threads and I admit that i read these crazy threads quite often.

to circumvent someone accusing me of being frantic, i would insert a smiley thingy in here at this time yet i am in the wrong post. let's try

 

[Var]

Personally, I thought DT's post was pretty damn funny.

 

[Eggs]

It was funny. But when a respected member of the board makes a post professionally, you respond as such.

You know, like if your principal in high school (or our boss for most of us now) came to your class to speak to you... you didnt say "huh huh, pull my finger". He was there in a professional manner, and it should be respected as such.

On the other hand, if you're his buddy and you go drinking later on at the bar... by all means use the "huh huh, pull my finger" gag

 

[Var]

I dont know man. This is a message board. You post here and everyone has the opportunity to reply saying pretty much whatever they want (unless it breaks rules set up by the Admin). IM is certainly pretty laid back about post rules, and he made some good points about VPX's advertising without making any rude comments to/ about GP. I dont see what you're getting so worked up about.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

Originally posted by Var
Personally, I thought DT's post was pretty damn funny.

yes it was funny. it was clear that he didn't think much of the product. there is nothing , repeat absolutely nothing wrong with that. all those made up words were simply to show how stupid some company's adverts are. several companies slap some pseudo-scientific made up name to their product in the hope that no one cares enough to look it up. moreover, his comment " I still want to buy it though. I mean, with a product description such as this, who wouldn't?" quite rightly shows the thinking behind the goons who run the supplement companies.
put a 5 color label, show several scientific references from obscure journals and then use some made up scientific term to describes it's purported actions. all just a sham.


what isn't funny is that it is a cheap shot. Firstly, GoPro wasn't shilling it to anyone. he clearly states " for those of you who love clenbut..." If you don't like Clen.... then don't bother posting. it wasn't meant for you. the same comment made to myself / Eggs regarding our not responding or ignoring DT's post should have been directed towards DT- the original culprit. Not the people responding to what is so obviously a cheap shot.

Secondly, IF DT is in fact an employee for another supplement company, 1fast 400 whose subsidiary makes a similar product ( does Underground Labs make a similar product? ), then it bodes poorly for 1fast400. It makes them look rather slimy to have an employee badmouth a competitor's product on an open board so blatantly as that.

Notice that both Eggs and myself have said " if" he is an employee or "if" he is in fact this DAvid T. fellow.

 

[Vieope]

Nobody can say who posted the criticism, so you can´t blame bulk nutrition for that. Because somebody could do it just to make bulk look bad. Let´s forget about this post. In fact, it was funny.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

Originally posted by Var
I dont know man. This is a message board. You post here and everyone has the opportunity to reply saying pretty much whatever they want (unless it breaks rules set up by the Admin). IM is certainly pretty laid back about post rules, and he made some good points about VPX's advertising without making any rude comments to/ about GP. I dont see what you're getting so worked up about.

i rarely see people getting worked up. there have been a few times when someone clearly has lost it but for the most part, i imagine that the other person is calmly writing a rebuttal or agreement.
so,, with that in mind, i don't believe that anyone in here is getting worked up about anything. pointing out the obvious is not getting worked up.


VPX does have some stupid names for products. is that gangsta shit made by these people? man, what a stupid name..

it seems to me that it was a cheap shot made on a person (gopro) who is too professional to comment in any way. some people may not have thought that it was a cheap shot, much like they believed Todd BErtuzzi did nothing wrong with hitting steve moore from behind then pile driving his head into the ice. a cheap shot is a cheap shot.
DT comments came out of the blue- he certainly could have made an entire thread devoted to company's stupid adverts. and pointed out the fact that just about every company resorts to this sort of thing.

so DT, you have a valid point. start a thread highlighting EVERY company's crazy ads.

If you do work for Bulk Nutrition, the mission statement for that particular company must be something else.

 

[Eggs]

Marcus - I dont think UG makes anything similar to clen specifically, in fact 1Fast/BN carries all VPX products as far as I know of.

As far as 1Fast, I'm sure that this has very little to do with them... it was just a statement by David and he didnt realize the political ramifications of him making a statement under a name that he uses professionally in the same field. I didnt in fact have a problem with him making a statement, I just wanted it to be constructive and provide support for its claims instead of being a diss.

 

[Jodi]

1 thing to think of here in all of this:

This is Spam and we remove Spam from here, its just because it's Gopro's post it did get removed.

So if someone wants to bash a product, then I thinks its fine. He was bashing a product, not a person. If he had bashed Gopro, then this should be treated differently. There is nothing wrong with give a bad opinion or a sarcastic response to a product that they don't like.

 

[Eggs]

Certainly Jodi

Perhaps you might agree though that when one has ties to a supplement manufacturer (and thus are in the biz) that they'd respond appropriately to each other? Instead of simply making silly comments about a product/advertising problem... it would be more beneficial for them to state the problems they see and then back it up with some information.

For example, the statement "Not only are the majority of the ingredients underdosed and/or useless" could have been followed up by a break down of the ingredients and the quantities needed to be effective so that we, the consumers, could be better informed.

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Originally posted by Jodi
1 thing to think of here in all of this:

This is Spam and we remove Spam from here, its just because it's Gopro's post it did get removed.

Kinda like this one...
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29580&highlight=bags

lol

 

[DrChiro]

Liquid Clenbutrx??? Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 5ml
Servings per Container: 24
Amount per Serving
DV%

Calories
4
0%

Total Carbohydrates
1g
0%

Sugars
0g
0%

Total Fat
Saturated Fat
Unsaturated Fat
0g
0g
0g
2%
**
0%

Mahuang
312mg
**

Caffeine Anhydrous
200mg
**

Citrus Aurantium @ 95% Synephrine
60mg
**

Vinpocentine
10mg
**

Yohimbine HCL
5.5mg
**

*Percent daily values (DV%) are based on a 2000 Calorie diet.
**Daily value not established

Additional Ingredients: Proprietary blend: Sucralose, Natural Flavor & Colors in VPX's Proprietary Liposomal Matrix.

 

[DrChiro]

sorry that "copy/paste" thing didnt work too well.

anyway....i just wanted to list the ingredients in response to David Tolson's remark about them being underdosed....they seem ok to me.

i'm not sure why vpx charges so much for most of their stuff...and their claims can be a bit outragous at times which makes them lose credability in my book.....but as far as a decent thermogenic goes, clenbutrx is pretty damn good.

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Doc, are you referring to their prices compared to other web sites or just in general? All mfgrs charge too much on their own sites IMHO.

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
Kinda like this one...
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29580&highlight=bags

lol

Ahh but this is a member that found a good deal and is sharing it. Monolith doesn't work for 1fast - big difference IMO!

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Okay smartass...I learned along time ago not to argue with women...at least in public. lol

How ya liking AZ Jodi?

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by Eggs
Certainly Jodi

Perhaps you might agree though that when one has ties to a supplement manufacturer (and thus are in the biz) that they'd respond appropriately to each other? Instead of simply making silly comments about a product/advertising problem... it would be more beneficial for them to state the problems they see and then back it up with some information.

For example, the statement "Not only are the majority of the ingredients underdosed and/or useless" could have been followed up by a break down of the ingredients and the quantities needed to be effective so that we, the consumers, could be better informed.

An explanation is always better than a blanket statement, yes of course. However, its not like he was trying to compete with the product, in this case he appears to be expressing his personal opinion and POV, not bashing a product because of competition.

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
Okay smartass...I learned along time ago not to argue with women...at least in public. lol

How ya liking AZ Jodi?

Excellent thanks! We've got to catch up sometime

 

[BUSTINOUT]

Originally posted by Jodi
Excellent thanks! We've got to catch up sometime

Absolutely. Grab the BF and lets go grab bite sometime.

 

[PreMier]

Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
Kinda like this one...
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29580&highlight=bags

lol

Son of a bitch!!! I was looking for this the other day

Now I already ordered! Fuck.

 

[Twin Peak]

This whole thing is a darn shame. Sarcasm has no place on message boards.

 

[Eggs]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
This whole thing is a darn shame. Sarcasm has no place on message boards.

Here here!

Buncha smart asses... the whole lot of you.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

i dont see how this is spam any more than the dozens of other posts about Nectar. No one has ever removed those particular posts and it is the most blatant example of shameless product promotion i have ever seen. Whether one works for the company or not is irrelevent. your post about this being spam it should be removed is clearly wrong. he was announcing a good price on a particular product for those people who like that exact particular product.

that ain't spam.