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Blood work says it all

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pieguy said:
Just to further complicate things, i'm currently running clomid from EP and it's definitely working. The mood swings and extreme emotional reactions to anything and everything are quite pronounced. That being said, I'll probably get blood tests in 2 weeks and repost in this topic.
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ya... mood swings are poor indicators if clomid is legit lol.

if ur coming down.... than ur blood levels are becoming outa wack. i ran bunk clomid for 4 weeks and couldnt tell until i got bloodwork done. thank god i have legit nolv.... i wonder what woulda happened if all my shit was EP's and all bunk lol.
 
You didn't lose any weight/mass as an indicator of still being shut down? Still able to get it up, have libido, etc? I'm almost positive this clomid is working because the stupidest shit makes me feel like crying almost. It's extremely uncomfortable to say the least :pissed:
 
i found it harder to get it up and keep it up. but i have had issues similar in other ptc. so i didnt give it much thought straight away ya know. and i was losing some weight but seemingly water weight. i was still strong as a bull.... but finding myself more sore... which is normal too. lol.

blood work is the tell all.
 
and like i said... the nolv i was on was legit. and that shit can give you the emotional issues too. so see how its confusing unless you have blood work done?
 
I tried using aromasin from CEM as a plan "b" for the issues I am having with my E2 control. Their aromasin (Which I thoiught was good) ended up being bad.

Here is my lab results...
Please note: The only reason my levels went down at all I would attribute to using Forma Stanozol.

I mean a drop of only 20 points I would not attribute to using aromasin @25mg twice a day...would you?
 
Holy shit haha. 220pg/mL at "50mg" of aromasin. Yeah, fat chance.
 
You gonna use mp stuff then retest? I'd love you long time if you did lol

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Evil Eagle said:
You gonna use mp stuff then retest? I'd love you long time if you did lol

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Absolutely! I don't want this to happen to any of my IM brothers.

I just got the package from researchstop. Started Ina protocol of 25mg twice daily. I already took the first dose. Holy SHIT what a bad taste. I could gargle cem or ep stuff but not this stuff. It still makes me cringe. But if it works, it's worth it.

I will be taking a blood test on Thursday to check up on the results.

Anybody think this is too early or too late? Let me know

But this is what I'm thinking.
Blood test after two good days of being on researchstop's aromasin. I should have the results on Friday. I shouldn't have to take the forma stanozol. I wonder if i should..?
 
acemon said:
I tried using aromasin from CEM as a plan "b" for the issues I am having with my E2 control. Their aromasin (Which I thoiught was good) ended up being bad.

Here is my lab results...
Please note: The only reason my levels went down at all I would attribute to using Forma Stanozol.

I mean a drop of only 20 points I would not attribute to using aromasin @25mg twice a day...would you?
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So CEM is also bunk:geewhiz:
 
acemon said:
Absolutely! I don't want this to happen to any of my IM brothers.

I just got the package from researchstop. Started Ina protocol of 25mg twice daily. I already took the first dose. Holy SHIT what a bad taste. I could gargle cem or ep stuff but not this stuff. It still makes me cringe. But if it works, it's worth it.

I will be taking a blood test on Thursday to check up on the results.

Anybody think this is too early or too late? Let me know

But this is what I'm thinking.
Blood test after two good days of being on researchstop's aromasin. I should have the results on Friday. I shouldn't have to take the forma stanozol. I wonder if i should..?
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Awesome man, we appreciate it. I'll be watching this thread. Don't want another shit pct.

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acemon said:
when I got my results back over the weekend I dropped the arimidex from cem and started up the aromasin @25mg twice a day. So I started that protocol yesterday. This morning I took another dose of 25mg @4am and just took my blood test this morning at 8am.

Is there any issues with taking the blood test this soon after changing protocols?
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Oh, wait, you just started. Is this long enough to drop the levels down?

My last bottle of CEM stane knocked out tingling, itchy nips in a day or two.
 
Im noobie. Fill me in. I googled the half life of estrogen (wikipedia)and it said that it's half life is 13 hours. If my body doesn't make estrogen but rather converts it via aromatase enzyme then I figured it would be ok to take the test a few days later. Should I wait until I get back from my vacation(leaving on Saturday for a week) to take another test?

Thanks heavy
 
^^I think it depends on the form of estrogen...meaning if it was exogenous...

I don't think natural estro has a half-life per say...but I could be wrong...:hmmm:
 
acemon said:
Im noobie. Fill me in. I googled the half life of estrogen (wikipedia)and it said that it's half life is 13 hours. If my body doesn't make estrogen but rather converts it via aromatase enzyme then I figured it would be ok to take the test a few days later. Should I wait until I get back from my vacation(leaving on Saturday for a week) to take another test?

Thanks heavy
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Aromatse inhibitors can take days to reach steady state levels. Please put down the crack pipe and take a deep breathe. Wait a week before you do further E2 labs.
 
Lol. Ok I will wait until I get back in a couple of weeks.

What protocol should I run until then. Same as before? 25mg twice daily?

Thanks again heavy, my crack addiction gets the best of me sometimes!!
 
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heavyiron said:
Aromatse inhibitors can take days to reach steady state levels. Please put down the crack pipe and take a deep breathe. Wait a week before you do further E2 labs.
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So it's possible his aromasin from CEM is not bunk, as in, it was not given enough time?

Starting new aromasin bottle from CEM as we write . . . :nail:
 
how long were you using the CEM stuff before you took the test, determining it was bunk?

I would hate to find out that you were only on it a couple of days, and that stuff got stirred up like this...

No offense, but you should have looked into it further and did more research. Seems like you were just jumping from chem to chem, getting blood tests at the wrong times.
 
I have CEM Letro I just started. Ill know within a couple of weeks how it is. My wife has been on the clen just under 2 weeks, and I can definitely see a difference.
 
If I am dosing 1mg of arimidex 2x a day, my e2 levels shouldn't being going up.
If am taking aromasin at 25mg 2x a day my e2 shouldn't go up either.
This is essentially my argument.
If I am wrong or put anyone's livelyhood at stake, my honest apologies.
 
After a week of .5 ml of CEM Dex eod my joints are killing me, I had to back off to 3x weekly also their Clen is almost too strong for me,makes me shake so bad I can't drinkfron a cup. I also use the liquid Cialis .2ml ed and get wood like a lumber jack while on 600mg Deca/wk. The Prami is too strong for me, even dosed .5ml 2x a week I still get sick as a dog. Bro I've tried most of their products and have found all to be g2g. I just had labs done today I will confirm my E2 levels tomorrow. Trust me if I thought that these products were bunk I'd be the first to spill the beans. I'll check back in when labs get back TG
 
man i hate to hear about ep i know for sure there melotan 2 is some good shit i am using it now it i am black i gives me huge wood every time.but i will not buy from them again to many vets here i trust saying they went south sucks.
 
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