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So apparently I've been wasting my time and money. 6 weeks in and Im not happy at all. Im on TRT plus I added my cycle of Test E and DBol.

Cycle:

250mg of Test E on M-W-FR
30mg Dbol every day
160mg Test Cyp on FR (TRT)
1mg arimidex on FR

Pretty good right? I should have awesome results right?
Well, my weight is holding steady at 230 which is less than when I started. Strength gains and PIP are minimal and here are my bloods from today:

Sex Horm Bind Glob, 16.3 (L)
Estradiol- <6.0 (L)
TT- 850 (WTF!!!!!)
CFT- 26.3
CBT- 629

So it looks to me that the minimal results Im getting are coming from my TRT and no my cycle. Im pretty pissed cus I feel I've been wasting my time.
 
Whose test e are you running?
 
it's difficult to gauge what your results should be based on that info. Gear dosage doesn't mean anything compared to what your diet and training is like. Maybe give us a quick overview of your diet. At 230 you'd need a good amount of calories to grow.
 
Can you please post labs and pics.
how long have you been on TRT?
 
jozifp103 said:
it's difficult to gauge what your results should be based on that info. Gear dosage doesn't mean anything compared to what your diet and training is like. Maybe give us a quick overview of your diet. At 230 you'd need a good amount of calories to grow.
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Supposing the OP posts bloods to back his claims..

Can you explain how diet plays a role in his results of TT 850, when taking 750mg Test E and 160mg of Test Cyp ((910mg)) every week??
 
Been on TRT for 2 months. I will post pics and results after I go back to the doc on Friday. As far as diet, I would have to strongly disagree. Regardless of my diet, the amount of Test Im doing should give me more than 850.
 
Sappers_LTW said:
Been on TRT for 2 months. I will post pics and results after I go back to the doc on Friday. As far as diet, I would have to strongly disagree. Regardless of my diet, the amount of Test Im doing should give me more than 850.
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I would have to agree with you too. At 750mg/wk plus a trt dose, you should be well over 850.
 
Its really 2 different issues. His weight not moving and then him losing weight is nutrition related no doubt in my mind. Issue number 1

Issue number 2 The numbers are low for almost a gram of test a week.

The idea that diet has anything to do with test numbers in a blood sample is not supported by any studies I have read. If we are talking a natty person then sure by all means the diet plays a role but not here.

People need to realize that the gear only provides the opportunity for fast repair and growth in an anabolic state where extra nutrients are present. The gear doesn't make you grow. the gear just speeds up the natural process of protein synthesis. Without eating you can take 2 grams of test a week and not grow.

This is 2 different issues. He doesn't eat enough, and either his test E is bunk, or he is leaving part of the story out.
 
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Diet doesn't play into the OP's reason for posting. .
6 wks into the cycle..
Sappers...you've been on TRT for 2months, for conversation sake what were your levels when you began?
 
BadGas said:
Supposing the OP posts bloods to back his claims..

Can you explain how diet plays a role in his results of TT 850, when taking 750mg Test E and 160mg of Test Cyp ((910mg)) every week??
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hah! no sir i cannot explain that. I'm not sure how I missed that part. My bad fellas.
 
Sappers_LTW said:
Been on TRT for 2 months. I will post pics and results after I go back to the doc on Friday. As far as diet, I would have to strongly disagree. Regardless of my diet, the amount of Test Im doing should give me more than 850.
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Sappers,
I want to welcome you to IMF.
...want you to know as rep I want to get bottom of this
for You, the Community and Granabolic.

Via pm can you send an order # ?
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The labs will be new or from a few days ago?

Been on TRT for 2 months now what was your level when you began ?

6-7 wks on cycle now beginning 2 wks after Trt began correct?

1mg of armidex on friday only ?
 
Looks like you've been injecting cooking oil. No matter what others will try to make of it, your test levels should not be anywhere near that low at that dose. Looks like the only thing working is your trt dose.

Find a new source.
 
BadGas said:
To be fair to the sponsor, we should keep in mind, we have not seen the actual bloods posted yet.

OP said he will post Friday. I say we wait til then to pass judgement..
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If we want to use the word fair, then these sponsors should stop selling bunk shit. I'm starting to think these guys are just shipping vials of oil. Not attacking granabolic, talking in general.

Maybe i should keep my mouth shut....
 
rambo99 said:
If we want to use the word fair, then these sponsors should stop selling bunk shit. I'm starting to think these guys are just shipping vials of oil. Not attacking granabolic, talking in general.

Maybe i should keep my mouth shut....
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Oh so people shouldn't go off of feel alone? SHOCKING!
 
My diet is clean, but Im not eating as much. I would guess 2,000 cal because appetite is not there. Dath, I will get the full report on Fr and post it. Im gonna keep an open mind and wait until I have all the details. I was just frustrated. I did start TRT with very low levels, I was under 100 when I started. My body does look a bit harder than when I started.
 
It doesn't matter what your levels were before. This is test you're injecting now, your testes are out of the picture.
 
rambo99 said:
It doesn't matter what your levels were before. This is test you're injecting now, your testes are out of the picture.
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It kind of does matter where it was before. Getting the natural baseline is the key. As I suspected the food intake is not there. Having said that I will agree with Dath that it was not the reason he posted. He only mentioned his weight not moving; the concern was with the low numbers after injecting so much test. I would be interested to hear where this goes. I hesitate to run down any sponsors gear until we have the facts.
 
SoCalSwole said:
It kind of does matter where it was before. Getting the natural baseline is the key. As I suspected the food intake is not there. Having said that I will agree with Dath that it was not the reason he posted. He only mentioned his weight not moving; the concern was with the low numbers after injecting so much test. I would be interested to hear where this goes. I hesitate to run down any sponsors gear until we have the facts.
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NO it does not matter where he was before! Once you add exogenous test all endogenous test is not made! Your levels are based off what you inject, not what you produce!!!
 
bushmaster said:
NO it does not matter where he was before! Once you add exogenous test all endogenous test is not made! Your levels are based off what you inject, not what you produce!!!
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Exactly!!!

Lol, once you pin you are replacing your natural test not adding to it. Cmon SoCal you know this!?
 
bushmaster said:
NO it does not matter where he was before! Once you add exogenous test all endogenous test is not made! Your levels are based off what you inject, not what you produce!!!
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Yes your right ^^^ I guess the better way would be if we had bloods taken before he started the test E while he was still on the trt cyp that way we could see if the extra test E raised it further.

I was just thinking about seeing the baseline before anything was added to see how much if any the trt dose added to the number.
 
SoCalSwole said:
Yes your right ^^^ I guess the better way would be if we had bloods taken before he started the test E while he was still on the trt cyp that way we could see if the extra test E raised it further.

I was just thinking about seeing the baseline before anything was added to see how much if any the trt dose added to the number.
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Yeah that would work, but either way it's either his TRT and the sources test are both underdosed, he pinned weeks ago before the bloods, or the sources test is nearly bunk. Now I don't know how he pinned before testing but his test was at about the amount it should be with 160mg of trt a week.
 
Sappers_LTW said:
So apparently I've been wasting my time and money. 6 weeks in and Im not happy at all. Im on TRT plus I added my cycle of Test E and DBol.

Cycle:

250mg of Test E on M-W-FR
30mg Dbol every day
160mg Test Cyp on FR (TRT)
1mg arimidex on FR

Pretty good right? I should have awesome results right?
Well, my weight is holding steady at 230 which is less than when I started. Strength gains and PIP are minimal and here are my bloods from today:

Sex Horm Bind Glob, 16.3 (L)
Estradiol- <6.0 (L)
TT- 850 (WTF!!!!!)
CFT- 26.3
CBT- 629

So it looks to me that the minimal results Im getting are coming from my TRT and no my cycle. Im pretty pissed cus I feel I've been wasting my time.
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Yes, You would expect you be closer to 4k, not 800.
 
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