"Body by Pain"

[w8lifter]

You'll have to talk to my biatch...he already thinks I'm too big

 

[Dr. Pain]

K!

Butt bigger means you can "Grapple" better during sex....you'll be "less frail" Won't tap as easily!


DP

 

[w8lifter]

I don't recall ever tapping thus far!

 

[danilee]

From what I can fathom, once you do bodybuilding you feel like an ATHLETE...I don't like contests that include being pretty to win...There are plenty of bikini contest out there!

Although often times I have wanted to compete in figure shows(actually started getting ready for one) I never wanted to compete in shows that someones standard of PRETTY would be the deciding factor...All though bodybuilding has the same judging problems, some judeges like different looks, it does come down to develpment of MUSCLE and conditioning in the end..Personally, pretty I think has little to do with what bodybuilding is all about, altough Jennifer McVicar is very hot!

W8, have you gotten an agent yet? I am not sure what you ulitmate goal is, if it is fitness modleing or what? You can go either way...You have the look for either...

Danilee

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by w8lifter
I don't recall ever tapping thus far!

Puking...Tapping...Whining, it's all the same!


DP

 

[w8lifter]

*Ignoring my better half*

I agree on the pretty thing...although I already feel like an athlete w/o having been judged in BB yet...when I compete in fitness/figure/physique I'm usually one of the few w/ more than enough muscle.

I don't have an agent...I'd love to have one, I wouldn't know where or what to look for though, lol. I'd like to eventually get into fitness modelling if I could...actually, my only real goal is to appear in Oxygen...just once

 

[w8lifter]

June 22

Training

I missed a day so I combined arms w/ shoulders today...kicked my ass, was gonna do a good cardio session to pay for my sins of last night but I was too tired so I just finished my w/o w/ 10 minutes on the stairs.....Ran the stairs sideways on the work intervals.

Supersets:
Shoulder press, 3 sets, 10, 8, 8
Standing WG EZ curls, 3 sets, 10, 10, 8

Shrugs, 3 sets, 20, 15, 15
Cambered bar pressdown, 3 sets, 10, 8, 8

Tri-set:
Standing Alternating bicep curl, 3 sets, 10, 8, 7
Side Laterals, 3 sets, 15, 12, 12
Single-arm overhead extension, 3 sets, 6, 6, 12

Superset:
Bent over laterals, 3 drop sets, 10/6, 8/8, 6/10
Upright rows, 3 sets, 10, 8, 8

Meal 1

2 coffee
2 tbsp whipping cream
1.5 srving protein

Meal 2

6 egg whites
2 yolks

Meal 3

1.5 srving protein
2 tsp flax
veggies w/ Oil&Vinegar
1 tbsp peanut butter

Meal 4

Can tuna
2 tsp olive oil
veggies w/ oil&vinegar

Meal 5

1 srving protein
1/3 cup fibre one
15 almonds
veggies w/ oil&vinegar

Meal 6
1 srving protein
1 egg yolk
4 egg whites
1 tbsp peanut butter

Total: 1578
Fat: 79 713 46%
Sat: 13 120 8%
Poly: 20 183 12%
Mono: 24 212 14%
Carbs: 45 127 8%
Fiber: 13 0 0%
Protein: 178 713 46%


water....not enough!

 

[Dr. Pain]

Baby, I haven't seen BW posted in quite some time....is the scale OK?


DP

 

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Baby, I haven't seen BW posted in quite some time....is the scale OK?


DP

122 ....not depleted, since I haven't been depleted in a while, lol.

 

[w8lifter]

Meals were pretty bad today, lol...no veggies, too much peanut butter, not enough water.

Meal 1

1.5 srving protein
2 tbsp cream

Meal 2

1 srving protein
1 tbsp peanut butter

Meal 3

can of tuna
1 tbsp mayo

Meal 4

4 egg whites
1 yolk
3 oz salmon

Meal 5

1.5 srving protein
1 tbsp hemp seed oil ...that shits nasty
1 cup broccoli

Meal 6

5 oz lean beef
mushrooms & onions
1 tbsp peanut butter

Water....either 4.5 or 6 litres...lost track.

Total: 1754
Fat: 91 819 48%
Sat: 14 126 7%
Poly: 22 195 11%
Mono: 26 233 14%
Carbs: 26 92 5%
Fiber: 3 0 0%
Protein: 201 806 47%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

 

[Dr. Pain]

That's fukin it!

Tomorrow, lose the Peanut Butter, one half of the gum, and in one week your back on flax.


We will negotiate the rest of the gum, and the coffee!

Somebody is getting her ass photographed!


DP

 

[w8lifter]

Damn...I love it when you give me the finger

No peanut butter...at all...for the whole day?

P.S....you can fuk w/ my gum...but we've been through this before...don't fuk w/ my coffee! LOL

 

[Dr. Pain]

Are you telling me...or asking me!

Coffee goes in three weeks!

(have two fingers, need more?)


DP

 

[w8lifter]

Fuk that shit! No coffee in 3 weeks? You realize it's you who has to suffer the consequences of that don't you?

Ya think I should be doing my HIIT on an empty stomach in the a.m.? I could get up early and run the hill at the park...I'd pretty much curse your ass the whole time, butt I'd do it

P.S....I can always take more

 

[Robboe]

just curious why you're against the coffee and gum?

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by w8lifter

P.S....I can always take more

Fingers?

I've got a shitload!

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
just curious why you're against the coffee and gum?

If I tell you, you will just argue with me.

Butt you can be useful as you have been lately....I understand there is an article in the current T-Mag that I don't have time to review on caffiene......I would even feel indebted if you did a brief review in Diet and Nutrition.

Want to take is a step further, the late Dan Duchane told me that coffee interferes with insulin regulation (and to avoid it on a cut)via the ??? Randell, Randele, some spelling, cycle. It is something I have never found in physiology texts. Do Chicken Daddys fish??

Here is a lead:

Caffeine inactivates the enzyme phosphodiesterase, allowing large amounts of glucose and triglycerides to flow into the blood stream. In this respect caffeine produces an effect similar to that of stress.


I want w8 to "do" the research on gum, the sugar alcohols associated with "an addicts" inability to control portions....and someone, has got to post some definitive research on "sweet tastes" contributing to hyperinsulinemia! (use that in your caffiene serch too)


DP

 

[w8lifter]

Like I don't have enough to DO!

 

[w8lifter]

Meal 1

coffee
2 tbsp cream
1.5 srving protein

Meal 2

3 oz lean beef
2 egg whites
1 yolk
2 cups green beans

Meal 3

1.5 srving protein
2 tsp hemp seed oil
1 tsp olive oil
mixed veggies

Meal 4

Can of tuna
1 tbsp mayo
veggies w/ oil&vinegar

Meal 5

4 oz lean beef
2 egg whites
mixed veggies w/ oil&vinegar

Meal 6

4 oz chicken
1 oz mozzarella cheese
1 tsp oil

Water = 7 litres

Total: 1615
Fat: 75 677 43%
Sat: 15 138 9%
Poly: 15 139 9%
Mono: 18 161 10%
Carbs: 14 56 4%
Fiber: 0 0 0%
Protein: 212 849 54%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%


Training

Chest....too freaken sick of typing today to write it out, but i had no energy and was very weak.

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain



If I tell you, you will just argue with me.


**if my question starts out with "just curious" then chances are i'm not asking you to argue.

Butt you can be useful as you have been lately....I understand there is an article in the current T-Mag that I don't have time to review on caffiene......I would even feel indebted if you did a brief review in Diet and Nutrition.

**Just read it. It's just what John Beradi heard at a seminar somehwere. Shame he doesn't mention the actual studies so we can make a proper assessment. I'll have to look on PubMed later and see what i can find.

I did, however, already know that caffiene + a carb meal causes a bigger insulin response than the carb meal alone. So maybe the only recommendation should be to avoid coffee when carbing up?


Want to take is a step further, the late Dan Duchane told me that coffee interferes with insulin regulation (and to avoid it on a cut)via the ??? Randell, Randele, some spelling, cycle. It is something I have never found in physiology texts. Do Chicken Daddys fish??

** "Randle"

Since caffiene stimulate catecholmine release (epinephrine and norepinephrine - or adrenalin and noradrenalin, whichever you're more familiar with) maybe these effect the randle cycle? I'll look into it further later.

Here is a lead:

Caffeine inactivates the enzyme phosphodiesterase, allowing large amounts of glucose and triglycerides to flow into the blood stream. In this respect caffeine produces an effect similar to that of stress.

**Yeah, this explains why it stimulates release of the catecholmines - adrenalin is our "fight or flight" hormone. The triglyceride release in the blood would also explain caffiene's lypolytic effect.

I want w8 to "do" the research on gum, the sugar alcohols associated with "an addicts" inability to control portions....and someone, has got to post some definitive research on "sweet tastes" contributing to hyperinsulinemia! (use that in your caffiene serch too)

** i'll see what i can do.


DP

 

[nikegurl]

really good stuff here. thank you all. used to be i'd get lost reading these discussions. i can't contribute yet - but i can hang. (no tapping DP)

thanks for all the time and work you put in here!

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
**Just read it. It's just what John Beradi heard at a seminar somehwere. Shame he doesn't mention the actual studies so we can make a proper assessment. I'll have to look on PubMed later and see what i can find.

Also, we're not sure about what dosages they're using to establish this.

And ECA stack usually has 200mg caf for up to three times a day! Whereas the "average" cuppa only has about ~50mg.

 

[Dr. Pain]

TCD<, I just got second hand info that the T-Mag article is devastating to coffee drinkers, and had to see for myself.

http://www.t-mag.com/articles/214app.html

An excerpt:




1) Caffeine intake (in all of its forms) decreases whole body glucose disposal (carbohydrate uptake) by 15-30%.

2) Caffeine intake decreases skeletal muscle glucose disposal by 50%.

3) When consumed with a standard carbohydrate breakfast, caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity, leading to large increases in blood insulin. But even in the face of this insulin surge, blood glucose doesn't disappear at a normal rate. When the body can't take up carbohydrates properly (as when drinking coffee), it releases loads of insulin to help out. However, the coffee actually prevents the insulin from doing this job and you end up with high insulin and glucose. That, my friends, is the serum profile of the obese, type II diabetic.

4) Caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity for at least three hours (this is the duration of the longest study they've performed), but the true duration of the effect isn't known. I speculate that it's at least five hours, the half life of caffeine.

DP

 

[Leslie]

so we shouldn't have coffee with carbs. Just enjoy the cup between meals-is what I am hoping you're saying

 

[nikegurl]

i didn't even think about the fat burner products out there that contain caffeine - good point CD! i assume this would hold true for kola nut too...

 

[w8lifter]

Thanks chicken baby (I can't remember your new name ) now how the hell am I gonna argue that it doesn't affect me....I'm gonna be one cranky biatch ya know!

Someone will note the complete lack of peanut butter from my menu today.

I am starving.

 

[nikegurl]

you're starving - but your hott! (is that any small comfort?)

 

[w8lifter]

No

lol

 

[w8lifter]

Butt thanks

 

[nikegurl]

no problem - i didn't think it would ease the peanut butter pain. worth a shot though.

 

[w8lifter]

So DP...if gum is out I guess crystal light is out too huh.