Bodybuilding is Dead

[gr81]

I have heard of the same shit fire, about top ranked pros and what they do for their drugs, it is unbelievable that shit goes on. Crossing the line IMO

 

[gr81]

Hey I just got my 1000 post, look at that! whoo hoo

 

[Burner02]

on your way to being a whore, my brotha!

 

[Flex]

Man firestorm, that's an eye-opener...

Regarding BB's "downsides", there's a bad side to everything, like previously stated, and bodybuilding is just one thing that, like all things, has pitfalls. BUT, you can look and def. find ugly parts to everything...music, sports, hollywood, and in both famous and normal everyday people.

There is R. Kelly having sex with underage girls, Jordan's gambling, Kobe supposedly (i think he's innocent) raping a chick, ex-Cowboy (forgot his name) getting caught with like 80lbs of weed TWICE in one week, Robert Downey's (and most of Hollywood's) Coke problem, child molesting priests, Presidents (no names) getting sucked off by interns.

Bottom line, of course there is a downside to bodybuilding. Show me anything in life, and you can find a downside to it. Nobody's perfect except God himself.

Its Chinese Philosophy, Yin and Yang..in all good there's some evil, and in all evil there's some good.

 

[firestorm]

Oh absolutely Flex. Your totally correct and I'll bet that if there are music message boards and such on the internet they address the same topics. Bodybuilding is "our" sport so of course were going to talk about the good and the bad. Personnally I tend to start positive threads but when I see one like this, I'll still post opinions and a story or two if I have one.

 

[firestorm]

CONGRATULATIONS ON 1K GR8MAN!!!! BELLS AND WISTLES GOING OFF HERE BROTHA.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I brought it back so others (i.e. soyhead) could enjoy it.

 

[kbm8795]

I'm not surprised at all about the remarks made in that article, except I don't think the sport is dead or even dying....just maybe not so healthy any longer. But I am surprised that guys would do so many drugs hoping to win such a small amount of prize money - it makes me wonder what the total motivation must be?

I mean, if you look at the top Olympia contenders, the purse for the winners might have gone up, but if one of the pros this year (was it Priest?) hadn't put up some extra bucks, a lot of them would have walked off the stage with nothing. If you consider how expensive those drugs must be, along with all the food and supplements, training expenses, etc....how do these guys afford to compete?

As for the "homosexual" activity, I don't think that is probably limited to just "gay sponsorship"...there are likely guys who hire themselves out to women for the bucks, too. A ho is a ho....but I think it becomes a bigger issue when you hear rumors about how contestants may be approached to "interact" with judges - I've heard of those rumors for years. If it is true, it sure might explain some strange placings in some contests.

I think what is more sickening is, with all those guys doing the homo nasty for their drug money, what happened to the only pro competitor who came out of the closet? Anyone remember Bob Paris? His magazine exposure and endorsements started drying up real fast after he went public with his sexual orientation. Maybe the guy would have placed higher in the Olympia if he had stayed in the closet and out of a stable relationship and ho'ed it up on the side for drug money.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

That's just it. These guys like Coleman and Cutler are icons. The ultimate in manliness. There are many people who idolize them, but who wants to openly idolize a homo?

 

[kbm8795]

But I thought the guy writing this article said that gays were swarming in the audiences, cheering the guys on....just like straight guys do when they see a woman stripper or gawk at women showing their breasts on Bourbon Street. Maybe those guys cheering their faves on knew something about them the rest of us didn't....

I'm just not sure that "manliness" is necessarily defined by what makes a guys peepee get hard. Besides, that seems like a strange image for bodybuilders who take drugs that allegedly affect the size and performance of their genitals. Are you saying the image of ultimate manliness is a guy so inflated that he can't walk, carry his luggage, breathe, and has to substitute flexing his biceps for a dysfunctioning weenie?

If the author is saying he isn't homophobic, the gay thing wouldn't be any more shocking than Coleman and Cutler hiring themselves out for bachelorette parties or doing stud service for women on the side. Frankly, at their level, I doubt they have to do anything like that - they are making the bucks now to finance their habits.

It shouldn't make a damned bit of difference HOW or WHO the guys HO with to make it big - it's the fact they do it at all that should be the reason for them to fall from their pedestal. And that activity is probably one of the biggest hidden reasons why more pros are loudly complaining that there needs to be more prize money and wider distribution of it.

But I'm still puzzled about the motivation to spend that much money on drugs to become the symbol of ultimate manhood...is it just about the image of being that ultimate man, and they are happy to toss aside their values and health in order to be an inflated model holding a protein shake in a magazine? The sport still doesn't have lots of prize money - what kind of man would do all those things to get to the top?

 

[irontime]

Originally posted by TheGreatSatan
There are many people who idolize them, but who wants to openly idolize a homo?

Well let's face it, Jesus could have had pretty much any chick he wanted and never did. He hung around with his MALE followers all day, lots of people idolize him and he had to have been a little gay.

 

[firestorm]

Not funny IT.

 

[MeatheadSam]

The fitness scene is taking up where the bodybuilding scene is faltering. There will always be a BB scene but I think it will diminish and lifting weights will be more focused on looking good and to acheive athletic performance not inhuman proportions.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Pushin' rock to page 3!

 

[moon]

i dont' wnat to look like today's freaks...but don't think bodybuilding is dead. Whenever there is a competition there are many ppl out there to watch it. The competitions are better than ever and many pros make lots of money out of it. I don't want to miss the Mr Olympia competition.

 

[oaktownboy]

Originally posted by Flex
ex-Cowboy (forgot his name) getting caught with like 80lbs of weed TWICE in one week

Michael Irvin

 

[QuestionGuy]

This is a great article, and I have to agree with that guy because he really brought shit up, these guys really are freaks and they can't even scratch their backs, but i also have to respect what you guys have to say becasue you have a lot of good points too.....but i do have to say that i got gos-bumps (however you spell that ) .......... but of so many states why did he have to mention SALT LAKE CITY ??? lol no one like mormons hehehehe........and why would pro-bb'ers have to suck dick for drug money??? forgive me if im wrong but don't they have lots of money anyways ?????????????????

 

[QuestionGuy]

PS :
I love bodybuilding and i dont want to stop untill i roll over dead, but still I'll remain natural and i wont do steroid and as frustrated as I get with my gains and progress i will not use steroids, I dont want to ofend some guys here that do use them (it is their body and i respect them for that)....

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by MeatheadSam
The fitness scene is taking up where the bodybuilding scene is faltering. There will always be a BB scene but I think it will diminish and lifting weights will be more focused on looking good and to acheive athletic performance not inhuman proportions.

no way, bodybuilding is bigger now than it ever was, more shows, more competitors, more money, it's still growing.

 

[bandaidwoman]

Originally posted by Prince
okay, that's great, but I said an NFL FOOTBALL player, not a baseball player.

I think Prince is right, Body building is literally under more scrutiny because of the visible consequences of preformance enhancers...in this case, anabolic steroids and gargantuan muscles. Professional athletes ranging from track and field, basketball players, soccer players, swimmers, bicyclists and now even tennis players are not immune from rampant use of preformance enhancers ranging from steroids, to doping with epogen to Beta2 agonists, speed, etc. etc. Instead, their effects aren't the obvious ripped muscles but the faster sprints in the race, or the higher jumps, the more powerful serve, the quicker recovery times, the greater VO2 max, etc. These are subtle but not trivial advantages for these other sports. I don't see how silicone implants are any less sportsmanlike than wearing the full body aerodynamic "frictionless" suits in swimming, or 1000 dollar aerodynamic wheels and helmuts etc. These sports are utilising the best of what technology has to offer them in order for them to keep their edge and winning clout.

 

[Flex]

Originally posted by kbm8795
But I'm still puzzled about the motivation to spend that much money on drugs to become the symbol of ultimate manhood

what kind of man would do all those things to get to the top?

some people want to be the best BB in the world (Mr. O), so how can you blame them?

.....shit, i would

 

[Flex]

Originally posted by oaktownboy
Michael Irvin

nope, not Irvin. he blew lines.

it was some other former cowboy.....

 

[gr81]

^^leon lett

 

[Golden_Boy]

Hey guys, this is a great thread. I'm just a young guy of about 26, but I really like the bb's from the early 50's, like Steve Reeves, Clancy Ross, and Bill Pearl, and even those from earlier 20th century. I'm not going to make this a "who's the best bb" comment, but in those days bodybuilding seemed to be more about art and aesthetic condition. They ate very nutritionally, worked out 3-4 times per week, and actually had a life. These days, it seems as though if you are not in the gym twice a day, six days a week, and shoving large amounts of any commercial product, that you won't be one of those muscular guys you see in the mags. The guys from Arnold on, I'd say, present us with a picture of what is possible in man, physical wise, but the picture is distorted throught the lack of information and deception. I personally haven't heard Ronnie Coleman discussing his steroid/anabolic drug use as of his 7th Olympia title, and so I suppose we are safe in believing that at 40 years old, Mr. Olympia is able to be the way he is through sheer hard work and belief in God. It is possible, I bet.

Bottom line, I don't think that bodybuilding is dead, but its ideals have certainly transformed over the last 100 years. As a physical culturist, I believe bodybuilding is a beautiful practice when one is able to fully appreciate the meaning of hard work, discipline, self-knowledge, self-acceptance, patience, and aesthetic beauty. Anything less of this and bodybuilding becomes an institution of insecurity and immediate gratification.

 

[dc_dude]

^^^^^


if you think Ronnie coleman is clean, you're delusional.

 

[thatguy]

^^^^^


if you think Ronnie coleman is clean, you're delusional.

Absolutely not clean. I had a friend who's dad was one of his doctors. He's clearly on a lot of stuff.

Even without that information, can you look at him relaxed and tell me that's not a HGH gut?

 

[Arnold]

I personally haven't heard Ronnie Coleman discussing his steroid/anabolic drug use as of his 7th Olympia title, and so I suppose we are safe in believing that at 40 years old, Mr. Olympia is able to be the way he is through sheer hard work and belief in God. It is possible, I bet.

you are incredibly naive to think that Ronnie (or any IFBB PRO) is natural, that is funny.

do you really think the largest pro bodybuilder in the world, or any pro bodybuilder, is going to openly discuss their drug use? they already have the DEA watching them, the last thing they want is to admit it publically.

get a clue.

 

[LAM]

I personally haven't heard Ronnie Coleman discussing his steroid/anabolic drug use as of his 7th Olympia title, and so I suppose we are safe in believing that at 40 years old, Mr. Olympia is able to be the way he is through sheer hard work and belief in God. It is possible, I bet.

everything single IFBB Heavyweight has and uses steroids since dbol came out in the 50's. none of them are all natural.

 

[LittleKid]

I don't think BBing is dead, but the pro lifters aren't appealing to me at all cause its obvious they juice, just look at their bodys.. Natural for life, steroid abuse.. whats the point? Thats not your raw strength your seeing from the weight and visual changes, thats the damn juice.

 

[Du]

Pro bodybuilding is a game of mass monsters. Its original intent is no longer part of bodybuilding. But, bodybuilding is still bodybuilding.

However, there are thousands of us that dont juice, that eat and lift the best we can in search of being the biggest and best we can be.

Bodybuilding is NOT dead.