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Bodybuilding Is Not A Sport
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My opinion/argument is this:
Bodybuilders are athletes in every sense of the word, and a bodybuilding show is a competition, therefore it's a sport.
I know this can be argued many ways, this is just how I view it.
Bodybuilders are athletes in every sense of the word, and a bodybuilding show is a competition, therefore it's a sport.
I know this can be argued many ways, this is just how I view it.
Ah HA! So you have never bowled competitively!
Just busting your nuts, man.
This is just dumb.
This is where I veer off the path from many of you. I do believe bodybuilding is a competition, I also believe that the amount of work they put into it is outrageous. Regardless of the steroids, you still need to have everything in check to be big AND symmetrical. So up until now, I am in agreement with you.
Now, the scoring is not the least bit objective. They have no set of rules to go by. At least in a gymnastics meet, there is criteria to judge by. Also, in my opinion, a sport is something that shows speed, strength, finesse, endurance and power. Bodybuilding shows strength and endurance in the posing, but nothing else. I suppose the argument for finesse can be made in the posing, but do you actually believe that Ronnie would have lost if he did not show finesse in his posing? Come on now.
Not trying to change anyone's mind, just posting my reasoning. If you believe BBing is a sport, that is your prerogative.
Now, the scoring is not the least bit objective. They have no set of rules to go by. At least in a gymnastics meet, there is criteria to judge by. Also, in my opinion, a sport is something that shows speed, strength, finesse, endurance and power. Bodybuilding shows strength and endurance in the posing, but nothing else. I suppose the argument for finesse can be made in the posing, but do you actually believe that Ronnie would have lost if he did not show finesse in his posing? Come on now.
Not trying to change anyone's mind, just posting my reasoning. If you believe BBing is a sport, that is your prerogative.
Obviously it's not "objective", but actually it is just like gymanstics, very subjective, yet judged by a trained and experienced judge (typically an ex-pro bodybuilder) that DOES have rules to go by, not sure why you said that.
I have seen the scorecards and scoring system and they are not objective at all. If they were objective, there would be some criteria for size that says someone this size gets this score, etc. Also, there is no denying that there is a huge controversy over past champions never losing, etc. At least in gymnastics you can tell when there is a perfect 10, I don't think this is the same as BBing.
Also, did you watch the Olympia broadcast on PPV? As soon as everyone stepped out onstage, the announcers said there was no way Ronnie would lose. Before any posing, before any of the other criteria were judged. If you can tell the winner based on only one criteria, then I have a hard time calling it a sport.
Also, did you watch the Olympia broadcast on PPV? As soon as everyone stepped out onstage, the announcers said there was no way Ronnie would lose. Before any posing, before any of the other criteria were judged. If you can tell the winner based on only one criteria, then I have a hard time calling it a sport.
Even if you don't compete it's still a sport.
I think he was questioning origin or basis of "the standard"....which isn't unreasonable, really.
IMO, BB is a sport, just not a stereotypical one.
And bias isn't limited to bodybuilding.
actually, i did when i was a kid!! haha
i've never golfed competitively (if you wanna call that a sport haha...not trying to start another fight, dont take it the wrong way allyou golfers)
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I think golfing is a sport and a passtime, just as BB is. If you bodybuild just for yourself, then it becomes a pass time. Once you added others being judged against you, then I belive it becomes a sport.
Most sports are subjective to some point. I think the based on how rules are enforced are subjective. There are base rules to make a call by but it then becomes the ref's job to rule whether the infraction demands a penalty or not. Outcomes based on some form of counting can be said to be objective.
Most sports are subjective to some point. I think the based on how rules are enforced are subjective. There are base rules to make a call by but it then becomes the ref's job to rule whether the infraction demands a penalty or not. Outcomes based on some form of counting can be said to be objective.
I agreed with you in regards to objectivity, no it's not objective, by its very nature it cannot be.
Objective is you run across this line with the ball in your hand and score 7 points.
Gymnastics is not objective either.
What the announcers said when Ronnie stepped out on stage means nothing, and the majority of judging is done during pre-judging the day before anyway.
My point was there is a criteria and point system, and the judges are trained and they do adhere to this, obviously there is a great deal of subjectivity involved.
Agreed Prince, I used the wrong language in my first post. I believe what i mean is gymnastics has better defined criteria. Like a wobble is a certain deduction, you start off with either a base score of 10 or lower, etc.
I don't really consider golfing or fishing sports either and I do both of those. Well, I am a better fisherman than a golfer, my golfing trips tend to go more towards the drinking side as the game goes on.
I don't really consider golfing or fishing sports either and I do both of those. Well, I am a better fisherman than a golfer, my golfing trips tend to go more towards the drinking side as the game goes on.
A sport can be something done for recreation or for competition. If done alone you are simply competing against gravity, yourself and your body. Flyfishing is a sport you are competing against the fish. And while I am at it sport check out the fro Dales avi is sporting. Semantics.
Sport
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
A particular form of this activity.
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
An active pastime; recreation.
Virtually anything can be called a sport.
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
A particular form of this activity.
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
An active pastime; recreation.
Virtually anything can be called a sport.
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yep 
Now I don't consider playing Madden 2004 a sport although because of semantics it can be.
Bodybuilding is an art form on top of a sport. The sculpting of your body through immense physical exertion. It involves blood sweat and tears (if your a wuss). Yes the competitions are an exhibition of the hard training they have put into it, but so is a football game I mean don't they call pre-season exhibition games? You come on the field/stage to exhibit how hard you have trained.
Bodybuilding is an art form on top of a sport. The sculpting of your body through immense physical exertion. It involves blood sweat and tears (if your a wuss). Yes the competitions are an exhibition of the hard training they have put into it, but so is a football game I mean don't they call pre-season exhibition games? You come on the field/stage to exhibit how hard you have trained.
Ditto!Originally posted by ponyboy
sport ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)
n.
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
A particular form of this activity.
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
An active pastime; recreation
I think bodybuilding fulfills all of these requirements.
Amen!
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I am so a chessthlete...
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it's happened before 
I have it's called titty twister, you twist till ones person gives
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I call it a sport when there is me, my wife and several other ladiy friends
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Originally posted by soyhead
Has everyone seen what Tom Platz looks like
WITHOUT STEROIDS?????????????????????
Check out the "Skinny Platz" post..........(dancing bananas)
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Did Ron Teufel die from steroids? If not, what was the cause?
First of all you know nothing about steriods if you think that they are fatal, so strike one Pal. second, you can say what you want about Platz but at least he looked like Platz with steriods, something you would never look like with all the drugs, GH, and IGF in the world, chew on that. Drugs or no drugs these guys would be monsters, you can't deny that.
As far as BB not being a sport, the actual contest I don't regard as a sport, but the process is defiantely of getting there is Most defn a sport, naw fuck that it is more than a sport. It is a way of life. When a basketball player is finished with his season he gets to rest adn take time off, somehting that a BB never does. It is 24/7/365 for years and years. So ya you are right it ain't a sport, it is much much more. Its something that bitches with soy in there name are too pussy to handle. Soy, ha ah ha, meow..
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I have to agree with ya man. I ran Xcountry for 4 years and we would hit up 12 mile runs and shit all the time. We had one of the better programs in the state. I actually ran a half marathon once (yeah I know big deal, but it was hard so fuck off) and I say BB is much more fun and rewarding which makes it easier. The only reason running was so hard to me b/c I hated it so much, god I hated all that runnning. There is really no rewards for busting your ass like that as there is in BB. With that being said I think that the 800m is by far the most difficult race you can do. The 400 is hella tough but the 800 is twice that and you still have to sprint just as hard, you can't slow down anymore. tough shit. Encurance running is right up there though
I hear that GR. Many years ago, I used to do a lot of distance running. About 35-40 miles a week with one 10-12 miler every Saturday. I ran in a bunch of road races. Several 5k, 10k and 15K's and two half marathons. That was some tough shit. Doing a heavy set of squats for 10-12 reps is tough, but at least it's over in a minute or so. Running at near capacity for an hour and longer is downright painful. Like you said, I like BBing better because you can see the results. Running makes you look like a death camp survivor and all you have to show for it is a time.
Originally posted by soyhead
Bodybuilding is not a sport and has never been one.
It's an EXHIBITION.
If you disagree, give 1-5 reasons why posing on stage in not an EXHIBITION.
I realize that you want it to be a sport.
I want to win the lottery.
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Has everyone seen what Tom Platz looks like
WITHOUT STEROIDS?????????????????????
Check out the "Skinny Platz" post..........(dancing bananas)
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Did Ron Teufel die from steroids? If not, what was the cause?
Thank Kuso for this
are u some kind of asshole posting shit like this so we will get mad at you?Originally posted by soyhead
Bodybuilding is not a sport and has never been one.
It's an EXHIBITION.
If you disagree, give 1-5 reasons why posing on stage in not an EXHIBITION.
I realize that you want it to be a sport.
I want to win the lottery.
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Has everyone seen what Tom Platz looks like
WITHOUT STEROIDS?????????????????????
Check out the "Skinny Platz" post..........(dancing bananas)
==============================================
Did Ron Teufel die from steroids? If not, what was the cause?
