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Buying 10 wks of Peps.. help please

shadowcaster said:
I used to do this, religiously. Now I don't... I've not noticed any difference what so ever. I think this is one of those "on paper" rules. Also, when Insulin and GHRP get together they have a synergistic affect that's greater than the sum of their respective parts... perhaps that offsets the mitigating effects of cellular infusion... I'm not sure.

I've discovered many interesting things about peptides through trial and error over the years. How/when/what dose they're administered is probably the single most prominent factor in determining their effectiveness. I don't usually say anything, because it's too soon to really say "this is how it works" and I'm by no means an authority. But I can say the competitive uptake theory is flat, in my experience.
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I just go by what Dat says. Check his forum out. Great stuff. EASILY the most informed man around on peps. Hes got studies and literature that explains why to wait. I just dont feel like digging it up.

I will say however that if you want to experience the insulin spike congruently along with eating that you do not do so by eating 30 minutes before dosing...but rather by 20 minutes or so afterwards. Thats when insulin levels would be primed to work with the GHRP/GHRH associated release. The release of GH occurs 20-40 minutes after dosing. THe insulin spike associated with eating would occur around the same time if you waited the 10-20 minutes after eating, not by eating beforehand.
 
njc said:
I just go by what Dat says. Check his forum out. Great stuff. EASILY the most informed man around on peps. Hes got studies and literature that explains why to wait. I just dont feel like digging it up.

I will say however that if you want to experience the insulin spike congruently along with eating that you do not do so by eating 30 minutes before dosing...but rather by 20 minutes or so afterwards. Thats when insulin levels would be primed to work with the GHRP/GHRH associated release. The release of GH occurs 20-40 minutes after dosing. THe insulin spike associated with eating would occur around the same time if you waited the 10-20 minutes after eating, not by eating beforehand.
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I'll check it out. It looks like he's done lots of homework.
 
Week 8. Bumped Dosage and Strength Increased

Guys,

I'm on week 8 of my Mod/Ipam run @ 100/100 3x daily. Last night I bumped my pre-bed Ipam dose only to 200mcg, keeping the Mod at 100mcg. Today in the gym I noticed increased strength, vascularity and endurance. Nothing else was different about my diet or supplements, save the double dose of Ipam before bed.

Anybody else have an experience like this?
 
I had the same effect, but it I bump all my doses of GHRP to 200mcg's and kept the GHRH at 100mcg's. 600mcg's+ is when I started seeing the strength and muscle gains.
 
End of week 7

I figured I'd drop by again to report how things have been going. I've been researching a pre-bed CJC-1295 (w/o DAC) and Ipamorelin dose (100mcg/150mcg) 5 nights/week, and a morning CJC-1295 (w/o DAC) and GHRP-6 dose (100mcg/100mcg) 5 mornings/week. Things have been going great.

I did just finish a 4 week HaloTest cycle as well. I had some, so I figured what the heck, I might as well use it. The only issue I had was lethargy. I had the same problem the first time I used HaloTest. I had hoped the peps would help fight the lethargy, but by the end, I just wanted to sleep 24/7. My starting weight was 183 and as of today I'm weighing in at about 191. My strength did increase and I do look leaner than when I started (based on vascularity). My last dose of HaloTest was Sunday, and I'm already feeling much more energetic again. I also went in today and had my blood drawn. I am very interested to see how HaloTest messed with my liver enzymes, cholesterol, and PSA number. I'll report back when I get the results. I forgot to mention in my initial post (added this later), that I was also taking Deca-drol Max. My first run of HaloTest was tough on my joints, so I was hoping the Deca-drol would help keep my joints lubricated. I'm assuming it worked because my joints were much better with this run of HaloTest than they were the first.

Starting Sunday night, I plan to up my research dosage of Ipamorelin to 200mcg, keeping the CJC the same at 100mcg (just like Bronco reported he's doing). I'll keep the morning CJC/GHRP-6 dose the same (the hunger created by the GHRP-6 has really started hitting me much harder now than it did initially - not sure why. Same source. Maybe there's some variance from vial to vial).

Happy Friday guys. Live fit and lift hard.
 
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KrfBB said:
I figured I'd drop by again to report how things have been going. I've been researching a pre-bed CJC-1295 (w/o DAC) and Ipamorelin dose (100mcg/150mcg) 5 nights/week, and a morning CJC-1295 (w/o DAC) and GHRP-6 dose (100mcg/100mcg) 5 mornings/week. Things have been going great.

I did just finish a 4 week HaloTest cycle as well. I had some, so I figured what the heck, I might as well use it. The only issue I had was lethargy. I had the same problem the first time I used HaloTest. I had hoped the peps would help fight the lethargy, but by the end, I just wanted to sleep 24/7. My starting weight was 183 and as of today I'm weighing in at about 191. My strength did increase and I do look leaner than when I started (based on vascularity). My last dose of HaloTest was Sunday, and I'm already feeling much more energetic again. I also went in today and had my blood drawn. I am very interested to see how HaloTest messed with my liver enzymes, cholesterol, and PSA number. I'll report back when I get the results. I forgot to mention in my initial post (added this later), that I was also taking Deca-drol Max. My first run of HaloTest was tough on my joints, so I was hoping the Deca-drol would help keep my joints lubricated. I'm assuming it worked because my joints were much better with this run of HaloTest than they were the first.

Starting Sunday night, I plan to up my research dosage of Ipamorelin to 200mcg, keeping the CJC the same at 100mcg (just like Bronco reported he's doing). I'll keep the morning CJC/GHRP-6 dose the same (the hunger created by the GHRP-6 has really started hitting me much harder now than it did initially - not sure why. Same source. Maybe there's some variance from vial to vial).

Happy Friday guys. Live fit and lift hard.
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Thanks for checkin in brother. Next week I'm moving my dosing to 100Mod/200Ipam 2x daily (morning and night) and then starting a 12 week run of 750mg Sos 250, divided into a M,W,F dose. Jeezus am i excited. Now if Peyton will just sign the papers life will be a dream!
 
Been hitting the mod/ipam dose at 100/200 2x daily for the past week - 1st thing in the morning and Last thing before bed. I'm pretty sure this has turned into an anabolic combination. It's the only thing I've changed in the past week and I haven't used any MT2 in that time period. I did 20 rep sets today (supersetting bi's and back) and the pump was the best I've had in YEARS. I'm gonna work hard to drop a bit more bodyfat prior to starting my SOS 250 3x week. Can't wait to see how these two work together!
 
msumuscle said:
So, when you guys dose post workout you just wait 30 minutes before you have your protein shake?
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If anabolism is your main goal 15 minutes is fine. Might be better than 30 minutes for muscle growth. Yes, it may blunt the GH release a little more than waiting 30 minutes would but you'll have protein in ya when the GH starts to work; which is better for anabolism.
 
BroncoJunkie said:
Anabolism isn't really my Goal for Peps.. sure is a nice side effect though.
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Yeah I hear ya. Like GH, peps are really better for fat-loss and their anti-catabolic properties than they are for anabolism. But I do think that they can yield some hypetrophy if used consistently over long periods of time and/or are used in high dosage. Kind of like what Pittsburg was talking about or, as I prefer, just dosing 6 times per day with conventional dosing.
 
njc said:
Have you ever looked into "boom dosing" Ipamorelin? Essentially using the whole 2mg or 5mg vial in one dose?
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You know what, I just had someone ask me about that the other day. But I had never heard of it.. I still need to read up on it... but it's similar to how I dose mine.. I do 3x per day at 600mcg's GHRP and 100mcg's 3x per day of Mod grf. I'm just not quite as crazy as the Boom dosing. I'm not sure how much of that would even be utilized. If you took 5mg's you may only get 2mg's worth of response due to the diminished returns. I will definately give it a whirl here soon.. maybe tomorrow.
 
Not sure how sensitive you are to prolactin or cortisol spikes Pitt. The only reason that ipamorelin is reccomended for boom dosing is that at higher doses GHRP-2/6 can definitely release an appreciable amount of prolactin and/or cortisol. But that shouldnt happen with Ipamorelin.

Ive never tried boom dosing because of money issues. I need to ration my peps.
 
I'm not too worried about it.. I take like 4grams of Vitamin C ed and I'm currently running Prami with my Deca.. So I think I should be OK to combat the sides for short term use. I appreciate you looking out for me though.
 
I said I'd come back and report how my blood work looked after a four week cycle of HaloTest and Deca-drol Max (in addition to the peps)... Well, it isn't good. I took liver support - AI's Cycle Support in my protein shakes and Liver Longer twice per day and some additional supps for cholesterol - Niacin 2.5 grams/day and fish oil 4 grams/day. My AST number was 62 (normal is 0-40) and my ALT number was 59 (normal is 0-55). My LDL cholesterol was 207 (docs want to see you < 100) and HDL was 13 (they want to see this >40). My base (non-cycle) numbers are all much better, although I can't seem to get my HDL above 40 no matter what I do (it's usually around 38). My PSA number was same as baseline (1.6), and considering that these pro-hormones are not DHT based and can't convert to DHT, this was no surprise. My sex drive was completely nonexistent as I think the HaloTest knocked down my estrogen levels down to the degree that both my cholesterol numbers and sex drive were negatively impacted. I've never really liked orals because of the potential for liver toxicity, so I guess I should probably avoid them given they seem to really affect me.

I've been doing post cycle for two weeks now, and that's going great. Getting my sex drive back and I don't feel nearly as lethargic. And mostly holding onto the weight gained (down about 3 lbs. after going up about 9). I'm going back to the doc in about 4 weeks to see how my blood looks again. I did a cycle a couple years back that included injectable Winstrol. That did not affect my liver enzymes BUT my cholesterol numbers looked almost exactly the same. After being off cycle for about 6 weeks, my cholesterol numbers were back to baseline, so it was completely cycle related.
 
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