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I agree with this when you are talking about adults, but for kids 14-18 it is very easy to do....if they are dedicatedlnvanry said:IMO it is pretty close to impossible..naturally.
Agreed... I've lost fat while gaining muscle. And quite a bit on both sides. Fact is I'm doing so now!ForemanRules said:Most here seem to think you have to put on some fat while gaining muscle.....but myself and most of the kids I trained with back in the day all put on muscle and gained 0 fat in the process.
gopro said:It can be done for sure. It just takes a VERY diligent approach to diet and training. From 2004-2005 I maintained a bodyfat of around 7% the entire year and added about 10 solid pounds.
CowPimp said:Wow, that's pretty impressive at your training age. Good work. Just out of curiosity, do you follow P-RR-S yourself, and if so, what do you do differently from the standard template?
We don't even really need to be that dedicated. I mean, I've been 7-8% body fat with over 35 pounds gained, and I just eat whatever and make sure I get enough protein. Actually, I just got back from taco bell.ForemanRules said:I agree with this when you are talking about adults, but for kids 14-18 it is very easy to do....if they are dedicated
ihateschoolmt said:We don't even really need to be that dedicated. I mean, I've been 7-8% body fat with over 35 pounds gained, and I just eat whatever and make sure I get enough protein. Actually, I just got back from taco bell.
gopro said:Thanks CP! Much appreciated.
Yes, I practice what I preach. I do tweak the basic program quite a bit throughout the year, but the principles are the same. I use some more advanced techniques and workout designs mixed in with the original protocol. I have written Part I of a training article for Ironman magazine called "P/RR/S Advanced Techniques and Variations," which should be published in a couple of months. Then Part II will follow.
ihateschoolmt said:We don't even really need to be that dedicated. I mean, I've been 7-8% body fat with over 35 pounds gained, and I just eat whatever and make sure I get enough protein. Actually, I just got back from taco bell.
gopro said:It can be done for sure. It just takes a VERY diligent approach to diet and training. From 2004-2005 I maintained a bodyfat of around 7% the entire year and added about 10 solid pounds.
I agree to some extent. If the young lad is real careful which 99.9% aren't then possible. But If he's the type that want's to gains right now like a lot of us, WHALE CITY HERE WE COMEForemanRules said:I agree with this when you are talking about adults, but for kids 14-18 it is very easy to do....if they are dedicated
"but for kids 14-18 it is very easy to do....if they are dedicated" Nope.myCATpowerlifts said:He means when you are done growing I think![]()
Ya but remember your the man. Now to go back to my last reply I'll also add this when it pertains to young lads. We have to remember that the young ones are fed by there parents.gopro said:It can be done for sure. It just takes a VERY diligent approach to diet and training. From 2004-2005 I maintained a bodyfat of around 7% the entire year and added about 10 solid pounds.
P-funk said:yea, but weren't you also taking pro hormones?
CowPimp said:Ah, I look forward to reading that. Please let us know when that article debuts!
ihateschoolmt said:"but for kids 14-18 it is very easy to do....if they are dedicated" Nope.
ForemanRules said:Most here seem to think you have to put on some fat while gaining muscle.....but myself and most of the kids I trained with back in the day all put on muscle and gained 0 fat in the process.