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Training since 16,34 yrs old, 7th cycle,268lbs,10% bf


wk 1-24 Test E at 1.2 g ew
wk 1-24 Eq at 600mg ew
wk1- 4 Tren ace at 250mg ew
wk 1-16 or 20 500mg Tren E ew(will see how it goes!!!)
GH 4iu ed year round
wk 1-8 and 16-24 Anadrol at 50mg on off days and 100mg pre-workout
wk 1-8 and 16-24 Anavar at 125 to 150mg ed
t3 and t4(new with t4 someone has na idea on how to run that compound!!!)
Aromasin 12.5 mg e2d
HCG 250iu e4d since beginning

PCT
HCG for 2 weeks after last inject at 250iu e3d
Aromasin at 12.5 mg ed until beginning with nolva and clomid
Clomid 100-100-50-50-50-50
Nolva 20-20-40-40-20-20

Thanks for any comments!!!I also have caber and prami for tren sides!!!
 
I never did try pyramiding scheme as Heavy as been doing,but will maybe try to do so!!!
 
That cycle seems insane to me but I have no experience with something of that magnitude. You are running two methylated orals at the same time for 8 weeks and the anadrol at a high dose, I hope you use some form of liver protection. Let us know how that goes for you.
 
Yeah i'll be running liver support but between the two blast of orals!!!Not sure i'll run the abombs that high since increased red blood cells in cunjunction with the Eq could lead to increase bp,but at 50mg anadrol,i never had problems!!!
 
Awesome bro!!! Im going to head in that direction in a few months! Id realky like to follow your log if you do one. I think the true magic happens when test is at a gram and above. Go big or go home. You have the experience age and size to really make this work:)!!
 
Awesome bro!!! Im going to head in that direction in a few months! Id realky like to follow your log if you do one. I think the true magic happens when test is at a gram and above. Go big or go home. You have the experience age and size to really make this work:)!!

Thanks D-Latsky,will post on progress!
 
Wow. Well that makes me feel a little less worse about running a 20 week test only cycle lol.

Is that really enough HCG do you guys think?
 
Where are your pics? LOL at the 10% comment.
 
tren e for 16 weeks nice bro, "don't run tren that long" whatever , I love tren
 
Training since 16,34 yrs old, 7th cycle,268lbs,10% bf


wk 1-24 Test E at 1.2 g ew
wk 1-24 Eq at 600mg ew
wk1- 4 Tren ace at 250mg ew
wk 1-16 or 20 500mg Tren E ew(will see how it goes!!!)
GH 4iu ed year round
wk 1-8 and 16-24 Anadrol at 50mg on off days and 100mg pre-workout
wk 1-8 and 16-24 Anavar at 125 to 150mg ed
t3 and t4(new with t4 someone has na idea on how to run that compound!!!)
Aromasin 12.5 mg e2d
HCG 250iu e4d since beginning

PCT
HCG for 2 weeks after last inject at 250iu e3d
Aromasin at 12.5 mg ed until beginning with nolva and clomid
Clomid 100-100-50-50-50-50
Nolva 20-20-40-40-20-20

Thanks for any comments!!!I also have caber and prami for tren sides!!!


i am far from being the guy who can comment as an expert on these things sa I am still on the learning curve. But would like to ask and comment on a few things...

T3 and T4 differ in that T4 + liver enzymes = T3. Any reason for running BOTH since by using T3, it tends to shut down pathways of creating more T3, thus I owuld presume liver enzxymes down regulate...

Test e has a high androgenic side and high conversion to DHT and estrogens. Is the aromasin used to offset test e conversion via aromatase pathway? And it also shutis down HPTA pretty sttrongly so i see the hcg at 250 every 4 days. Is 250 iu enough? I always looked at 500 iu every 4 days as being threshhold.

Why not use Proviron toward end of cycle (last few weeks) taper off the test e. proviron binds highly to SHBG so more testosterone is freed up. I am sure after 24 weeks, its levels must also be high....

In this case, you can remove any other aromatase product, nolva binds to estrogen receptor sites but priviron actually prevents more estrogen from being formed and lower estrogen means higher htpa...

Waht about using clenbuterol at the end of the cycle to assist in cortisol management also and protein sparing properties?

Why are you taking tren for the first 4 weeks?

I see 6 different steroids being used at the beginning of this cycle. some kick off after 4 weeks, some after 8 to then come back later.... Why are you doing so much up front? it looks beyond just a kickstart ....

I am only asking questions to stimulate a response since I am trying to learn and understand your cycle as you have it

thanks
 
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Awesome bro!!! Im going to head in that direction in a few months! Id realky like to follow your log if you do one. I think the true magic happens when test is at a gram and above. Go big or go home. You have the experience age and size to really make this work:)!!


i had personally beeen debating going 1 gram next time cuz i was going to stack.

For the cycle metioned at beginning, I wonder if he cycled the products by using more wet agents up front then the dryer ones on the back end. He is going to have an oportunity to remove excess estrogen on teh back end if he does it that way plus adding proviron. Binding estrogen receptor sites doesnt remove esrogen from your system, you will always have free esrogen running around and it has to do something. The body likes to reach homostatis pretty fast. So maybe pyramid the test(??)and cycle out the wetter for the drier after 16 weeks. I also wonder if he shouldnt pusle the cycle considering going for 24 straight weeks by keeping a baseline and priming body up for the next set of products 9cycled) being introduced.

AGain, the idea of going to hard straight out. Another issue too is Nolvadex. Nolvadex, from what I read interferes with IGF-1. While taking an oral AAS, the livers' countermeasure to ridding itself of toxicity is to make more igf-1 so it is a nice side of AAS orals.

anyway, just my imperfect knowledge poking around looking for some answers.

I will be following your log if you do one. I am DYI(NG to get a log up again with some sort of challenge somewhere. I need to competition to drive me :)
 
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