Comp in Sept?? Will he be ready??

[Twin Peak]

Lina, at least this will be fun to watch!? I am curious PT what the credentials of your trainer are.

 

[Rissole]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Looking forward to seeing the progress. So is your training and experienced poser -- its tough to get them all down!

If you mean is my 'trainer' an experienced poser Yes He won a world title for natural b/b i'm not sure who with but he got there through the ANB Australian natural b/b
If you mean me No There's a heap of work to do there
I know good posing can make you and bad will break you
How's this for credentials

 

[Rissole]

Originally posted by lina
As long as your diet doesn't have vegimite, ok?

Thanks Lina
This diet is only for about 4 weeks i think then it will change again (but don't quote me on that)
And i hate Vegimite anyway

 

[Twin Peak]

Shredded. And he used that diet you are on? Do you have similar bodytypes. metabolism, etc? How much cardio does he have you doing?

 

[J'Bo]

That sure is some heavy duty diet.
I am assuming you are on gear right?
I see that the diet could have worked for that guy.
Seriously though, i have never in my life seen such a terrible diet.
I am sure Arny, and all the other pros in the world would laugh there asses off at this one. Sorry i had to get that out. Let me ask you one question. Did this guy use this diet for his first comp? I am going to geuss no. When he switched to this diet what BF pecentage did he have? It definately is a new concept: The sugar and fat storing diet. Where are your essential fats? Obviously this guy has no nutritional background.

 

[Twin Peak]

J'Bo, didn't you say I was being harsh a few days ago? But I do agree.

 

[lina]

peetrip, does your PT have access to the internet? Maybe he'd like to discuss his diet with us so we can understand his point of view... or tell us about his success rate with other clients with this diet.

This diet looks similar to your bulking diet ( I didn't take a close look just skimmed through) but what kind of results have you had with him? i.e. how much muscle gained, fat lost, etc.?

 

[Rissole]

I'm doing 45min power walk every morn
He's a little bit shorter than me and i think about the same body type
Yes he did use this diet
Not on gear and never will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In January i was 81kg and 22.5%bf
Now i am 88kg and about 14%bf (no cardio involved)
Gee i must be storing heaps of fat ehh??
I have mentioned all this before!
My younger brother on just about the same diet and we work out together Jan 68kg 17% to 77kg 10% Naaa that diet could never work?

 

[Twin Peak]

Are you sure you are around 14%. Not trying to be mean but I am around 14% and you seem to be carrying more BF. My pics are in my journal, BTW.

 

[Rissole]

Last check about 4 weeks ago i was about 14.5% those photos if you read the date were taken about 8 weeks ago.
I'm getting another caliper test this arvo
You do not look like 14% you look about 10% can you see your abs?? Hmmm thought so.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by peetrips
Last check about 4 weeks ago i was about 14.5% those photos if you read the date were taken about 8 weeks ago.
I'm getting another caliper test this arvo
You do not look like 14% you look about 10% can you see your abs?? Hmmm thought so.

Actually no, you cannot see the abs at all. Notice I haven't posted them!

 

[Twin Peak]

PT, I can see that you are getting frustrated with what you view as negativism. And I understand. I'll continue to watch the development out of curiousity and refrain from posting any views, since you already know them. Good luck!

 

[Rissole]

Man get the clippers out at least!! lol you might be able to see them then.
When did you get your last test and how was it done

 

[Rissole]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
PT, I can see that you are getting frustrated with what you view as negativism. And I understand. I'll continue to watch the development out of curiousity and refrain from posting any views, since you already know them. Good luck!

The only reason im gettin frustrated is that everyones asking questions that i've already answered

 

[Twin Peak]

Sorry bro its hard to follow long threads, sometimes we miss stuff.

You can just refer us back.

Yeah the hair is a pain and I sometimes clip it. Sucked for my comps!

I haven't got an accurate test but I monitor regularly on the tanita. Its not that accurate but not bad. In my case I think its pretty close because I know my numbers. I am about 195 pounds and would need to drop around 15 pounds to get to competition weight (5% BF) so that seems pretty close.

My abs are covered in more than just hair! Still a bit of a belly there, unfortunately! But my upper body shows vascularity and cuts even when my BF is at 20%.

 

[lina]

Hey Peetrips,

How goes it?
Just thought I'd drop by and see how you were....
Hope things are cool...OK?

 

[Rissole]

Hi Lina
It goes well
I'm gonna lay off posting for a bit just till i just some more stats and stuff
I got my front waxed on Wed what a rush!!
Getting caliper test done today see how that stands Training mega hard !!
Trainer's gonna have a good look at me today as well (do some posing and stuff) and prob make a decision to fully go for it or not
Thanks for your concern Lina your awesome

 

[lina]

Your front waxed huh? Sounds *egad!* painful!!! Hopefully not the whole FRONT !!!! How was your caliper and trainer's appt? What's da consensus?

Love your avatar, soo cute! I have my kids pose like that too and it ALWAYS cracks me up to see them doing those muscle shots!

 

[esmerelda]

Hey my Aussie mate!!!! Great to hear your in one of those comps!!! I only wish I was your side to come over and cheer you on!!! That and I would love to get a shot of you in a thong!!!!!! Post it would I.......you bet!!!!

Keep up with the work......Ohhh and by the by....a word of wise to the others...Aussie blokes dont like being nagged....even if it is for their own good!!!!!! Hint...make it sound like its their idea and they'll lap it up all the time!!!!

 

[Rissole]

No Lina not the "whole" front didn't hurt too bad. Gotta leave a bit of manly fur there eh??
Well to my lack of memory goes the reward!! My lil bro's like 'na man i'm sure he said that you were about 17% last time'
Well guess what?? F it, i'm 17.5% (got some work to do now eh?)
Didn't have time for a look but the competetors meeting is Saturday week so i get to look at the other guys.
Pisses me off when it's a natural comp and i already know about guys goin in the comp that use
I'm goin to aim for the comp anyway and see how i'm cutting up as i get closer to the day. I just feel so wierd about this, i haven't even seen a b/b comp since i was about 12 (shit 19yrs ago) i've only been training since Jan and hell here i am going in one?? WTF?? I'm just playin it by ear i guess but that doesn't mean i wont go at it 100%
Oh shit i'm craving for sugar!! i didn't think i was a choc'o'holic but it looks like i am!!

esmerelda
Well g'day mate!!
Thank you for paying me a vist. Pic of a thong eh?? My old man gets back on Monday with his digi cam so you got it!! I'll even post it myself


Lina (and anyone else who wants to join in)
Looks like you might be my girl,
can you go back and look at my diet tell me what you dont like and what i should substitute (and why (i'm that kinda guy)).
I think i put on the extra bf about 3 weeks before i saw Mick about my new diet, I didn't care cause i was just thinking about puttin on muscle
I'm doing about 45mins of light cardio every morn on an empty stomach
I've been strict with what is written. Haven't even varied to break up the monotony of it. Thats just how i am, i think that's because im so green at this i don't know whats good and bad so i'm trying to stick with what i've been told 100%
I know that you guys know what your talking about so hit me up
Love you guys

 

[Rissole]

Oh forgot to tell you this one
Woke up this morn felt ok but by the time i left the house to do my walk...........
Holy sheep shit batman!!! I had the worst pain in my abdominals
Thats right boys and girls ...... my appendix!!
I went to the hospital and got checked out
Thats right boys and girls ...... finger up the arse (fortunately a female doctor)
She gave me a pain killer and 20mins later aok!
Went to work and feel ok now slight sensation where the pain was, just bein a bit careful. Hopefully be one of those ones that just hurts then you never hear from again eh??

 

[lina]

Hey p,


I'm no pro bout these things so I called in some experts! I'll be your cheerleader though and cheer you on...

Will see what w8 and TP have to say, k? Don't panic cauz 1/2% difference is no biggie and can be due to lots of things too, water retention, human error, etc. But good idea to start the changes now since we have 3 months left! It's July already!

Hope you feel better!!! Appendix are no fun .... What did the doc say? Leave it in and it may go away?

 

[J'Bo]

I am glad that you have decided to make a few changes to your training schedule. I know for a fact that if team DPw8 are behind you, you will come into the comp. in the best shaoe you can be. I deceided to do my last comp. only 3 weeks out and they got me from 17% to 11%. So if you decide to use their tools i garantee you will hit your goals. Although the diet you friend gave you worked for him, it is a very different diet than any BB i know has ever done. It may work for only a few people, but i know for a fact that DPw8's diet has worked for many. Dont stress too much, when you diet it is hard to stay positive and keep focused because changes seem to happen so slowly and at the last minute. If you have faith in DPw8 they will take you there. Then next comp you can tweek the diet a bit according to how your body responded to the diet. BB and fitness dieting is hard but the positives greatly outweigh the hardships you have to go through. Hang in there and keep on asking questions cause we all want to see you do your best.

 

[Rissole]

Sanks guys youz rip!!

 

[lina]

How's the tummy holding up?

 

[Rissole]

Is good. Feels like a lighty pulled muscle in that spot. Yes she checked me for a hernia and that was ok

 

[lina]

Here's a list I was given by Beverly Int'l about what I could/could not eat, I'll pass it on to you:

Master Food List - You may substitute freely within a category for variety:

I. Proteins- Chicken, tuna, fish, turkey breast, lean beef, egg whites, whole eggs, Ultra Size, Muscle Provider, Ultra 40 desiccated liver tablets, Mass Amino Acid tablets (some cottage cheese OK - if you are not competing in the near future).

II. Complex (Natural) Carbohydrates- Some good examples are baked potatoes, sweet potatoes, brown rice, cream of rice, oatmeal, kidney and lima beans, corn (limit), lentils, and peas.

III. Fresh Fruits (not dried or canned) - Apples, apricots, berries, cantaloupe, cherries, grapefruit, grapes, honeydew melons, nectarines, oranges, papaya, peaches, plums, strawberries. (Unsweetened frozen fruits are acceptable as part of your total fruit intake.)

IV. Non?Starchy Vegetables: asparagus, green beans, cabbage (all varieties), carrots, cauliflower, celery, cucumbers, kale, lettuce (all varieties), onions, peppers (green, red, jalapeno, etc.), radishes, spinach, string beans, squash (summer varieties only), tomatoes, water chestnuts and zucchini.

V. "Healthy" Fats and Oils: Flax seed oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil, walnut oil, olive oil, almonds, Brazil nuts, filberts, pecans, pine nuts, walnuts, avocados, heavy cream, real butter, and lecithin granules.

The following foods are ???free??? foods or may be used in limited amounts. You can consume them whenever you are hungry - with or without meals:

(* This list was given to me, but DP may disagree
· All vegetables except corn, peas, squash, carrots, beets:
· Green leafy veggies are free · Other veggies are OK in limited amounts
· Diet Sodas, Crystal Light, Coffee, Decaffeinated coffee, regular or herbal tea (sugar free)
· For health purposes, limit artificially sweetened drinks to 2 a day
· Unsweetened beverages are unlimited.
· Sugar-free Jello - Limit, it does add calories???
· Sugar-free Gum - Unlimited
· Non-fat Sour Cream, Non-fat cream cheese, Non-fat sugar-free mayonnaise - limit
· All dry seasonings and herbal seasonings
· Plain herbs and spices are unlimited.
· Packaged seasoning blends (like meatloaf seasoning) - limit

 

[Twin Peak]

Good concepts Lina. I think some of that should be tweeked for a precontest diet. I'd significantly watch the fruits and the extras especially the last 12 weeks. Also the complex carbs are generally a good list but should be kept relatively low as well. There is a HUGE difference in what you can eat to stay at 10% BF (which for me is tough) and 5% which is what you need to be at for shoptime!

 

[Rissole]

Thanks guys!!
Good list Lina
As far as drinks go all i been havin is water and about 3 coffees a day no sugar or milk (i cycled of creatine so bring on the caffine) had a small glass of coke the other day and i havn't drank anything sweet for so long!!
I've been really strict on that diet that i posted previously i'd even be wasting my time posting daily foods because of how strict i've been i'll use your list to tweak that though
Just prob really need to find some good stuff to have for mornin tea (sorry..... meal 2 lol)
Maybe just a protien shake and some fruit ???
Would that be too much protien it would mean having 4 shakes a day??

 

[lina]

Yeah, 4 shakes is too much... Try to eat whole foods...

Also, w8 did critique your diet on page 1, so go look at that and make your changes...