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[truth]

If you're not creating much deficit a refeed isn't necessary.

You want to lose fat? Eat clean, just below maintenance, lift weights 3 days/week, do cardio on your off days.

If you need an example of a clean diet, read this:

http://challenge.bulknutrition.com/challenge_9.html

Sound diet and training program will get you far..and most importantly--CONSISTENCY.

 

[Tom_B]

i havent been too much lately, because i just got done with x-mas break, and then this week (we were supposed to go back to school) but then weve been out of school now for 4 days of the week because of snow

-Efrin

were suppos to get 20-25cm tonight , no school
Thats why I like having a home gyms , but seriously as soona s you can get back in the weight room , IMO it's more important that cardio , in when trying ot lose fat.

 

[Tom_B]

oh awesome, i think ill do that!

-Efrin

If you like the refeed idea , then you'll probably like Carb cycling , Irecently tried it and I find that it's great

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/main.php?pageID=159&issueID=15

 

[419Para_Dice]

If you're not creating much deficit a refeed isn't necessary.

You want to lose fat? Eat clean, just below maintenance, lift weights 3 days/week, do cardio on your off days.

If you need an example of a clean diet, read this:

http://challenge.bulknutrition.com/challenge_9.html

Sound diet and training program will get you far..and most importantly--CONSISTENCY.

whoa, that doesnt look like much food at all, how many calories are in those diets??

-Efrin

 

[419Para_Dice]

If you like the refeed idea , then you'll probably like Carb cycling , Irecently tried it and I find that it's great

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/main.php?pageID=159&issueID=15

okay, thanks a lot tom ill look at that!

yeah today i dunno even why it was closed, streets are clean but whatever

-Efrin

 

[Tom_B]

If you're not creating much deficit a refeed isn't necessary.

You want to lose fat? Eat clean, just below maintenance, lift weights 3 days/week, do cardio on your off days.

Ya but with him being 200 lbs and eating 1300-1600 calories a day , thats quite a deficit , so a reffed would probably be a nice thing his body will need in order to keep from goning into metabolic shutdown..

Losing weight isn't as simple as that for some people , some can get better results do other things such as refeeds , carb cycling , etc. It all depends ont he individual and how his/her body reacts to certain food at certain types of the day.

 

[Tom_B]

okay, thanks a lot tom ill look at that!

yeah today i dunno even why it was closed, streets are clean but whatever

-Efrin

If you enjoy carb cycling even after you lose your weight theres a second part to it , for maintenance and Bulking , the link is in Jodi's sticky on "Cutting, Bulking, Maintenance.."

 

[Vieope]

Damn if I eat 1300 calories a day I will die.
IMO You should be eating at least 2700 calories. Then after a few weeks you decide if you need to drop more 300 calories. That should be enough.

 

[419Para_Dice]

If you enjoy carb cycling even after you lose your weight theres a second part to it , for maintenance and Bulking , the link is in Jodi's sticky on "Cutting, Bulking, Maintenance.."

all right cool, thanks a lot bro

-Efrin

 

[CowPimp]

You should start eating about 2500 calories per day and see what happens. Granted, because you have been starving yourself, your metabolism is probably screwed. So, you have to gradually work your way up to that point.

You need to go to the diet & nutrition section and start reading. Starving yourself is not the smart and healthy way to lose weight. Eating clean food, smaller meals, and more frequently is the way to do it. The caloric deficit should be minimal.

 

[419Para_Dice]

how am i starving myself, people eat in a lesser range of calories and lose fat you have a to be in a calorie defecit for lipoderm ultra to work

 

[CowPimp]

how am i starving myself, people eat in a lesser range of calories and lose fat you have a to be in a calorie defecit for lipoderm ultra to work

Who cares what other people do. People don't know how to lose weight in a healthy and safe manner. As you said, you lost 6 pounds in a week. That means you have lost muscle, water, and/or stored glycogen in addition to the fat you lost.

The rule of thumb is that if you eat less than about 10x your bodyweight in calories, then you are starving yourself. You are not supplying your body what it needs for various continuous bodily functions, such as proper glandular function. This can throw you into a hormonal imbalance, slow down your metabolism, and cause you to lose muscle. So, if you ever want to eat more again, then you are going to spike back up to your previous weight.

Have you ever noticed how very few people actually keep the weight off when they lose it? This because they do exactly what you are doing.

 

[Tom_B]

Well I doubt his metabolism is already screwed , he's only been cutting for a week ..
Also yes you are starving your body when your in a caloric deficit that low for someone you weight .. theres a diff between a caloric deficit and starving yourself. Thats the enitre purpose of refeeds and carb cycling , it "refeeds" you body , and gives your metabolism and body that boost it needs after damaging it on the other days of the week.

 

[419Para_Dice]

are you sure that i can not just use the refeeding idea

if not, then i will raise my calorie intake to 2200 slowly and see where that gets me, you have made a good point and i feel it will be worth while to try.

thanks for the advice guys

-Efrin

 

[CowPimp]

are you sure that i can not just use the refeeding idea

if not, then i will raise my calorie intake to 2200 slowly and see where that gets me, you have made a good point and i feel it will be worth while to try.

thanks for the advice guys

-Efrin

I came from where you were, almost exactly. I was about 160 pounds. I started working out and I realized that I needed to eat more, although I didn't eat clean. I just stuffed my face as much as possible. I was eating what I estimate to be almost 6000 calories per day. Before I knew it, I was almost 210.

In order to lose weight, I ate 2300-2400 calories per day. I lost a little more than 2 pounds per week. I got down to about 180.

I proceeded this with a lean bulk. I got back to 187 while maintaining what I estimat to be 8-9% body fat. Currently, I consume an average of 3800 calories per day. My weight doesn't budge. Once you start exercising, you will be surprised how much more you have to eat.

 

[bulletproof1]

losing weight is not a race. the slower you lose it, the less likely you are burning muscle and the more likely you are to keep it off in the long run.

 

[CowPimp]

Well I doubt his metabolism is already screwed , he's only been cutting for a week ..
Also yes you are starving your body when your in a caloric deficit that low for someone you weight .. theres a diff between a caloric deficit and starving yourself. Thats the enitre purpose of refeeds and carb cycling , it "refeeds" you body , and gives your metabolism and body that boost it needs after damaging it on the other days of the week.

Actually, your body starts to negatively react towards starvation within 72 hours. He's well beyond this time frame.

 

[Tom_B]

Well do you know what your maintenance calories are? Ok lets assume there 3000 , that would mean you'd want to drop 500 calories PER day to lose 1 pound , as 3,500 calories is equal to 1 pound.
So your eating 2500 calories 7 days a week
2500 x 7 = 17,500 calories for the week
But you don't want to do that so , so lets say you eat 1800 calories a day
1800 x 7 = 12,600 calories for the week ..
Thats way to low for someone who can maintain there weight at 21,000 calories a week.
So time to throw reffeds in there
Now i'm pretty sure a reffed is usually 25-50% above MAINTENANCE calories so wells ay you eat 35% above maintenance calories
3000 x .35 = 1050 + 3000 = 4050 calories
So put it all together , aiming for around 17,500 calories for the week
3 refeeds a week = 4050 x 3 = 12,150 calories
4 x 1800 = 7,200 calories
12,150 + 7,200 = 19,350
Too high so re-work having 2 refeed days
4050 x 2 = 8,100
1800 x 5 = 9,000
8,100 + 9,000 = 17,100 calories in the entire week , PERFECT!

Or you could simply follow what CowPimp said and eat the 2500 calories daily and go from there

 

[Tom_B]

Actually, your body starts to negatively react towards starvation within 72 hours. He's well beyond this time frame.

Really? ...Fuck I'm screwed I thought it would take like .. 2 weeks? ..*sigh* this is what I get for trying to lose water from xmas I guess

Also correct me if I'm wrong about the whole refeed thing if I'm wrong as you know alot more than me!

 

[truth]

hey it's cowpimp again, what up bro

para, dude...if you think you can eat 1300 calories and just use refeeds, you still have a SHITLOAD to learn about proper nutrition..

i would at LEAST start at 2000 calories and see how your body reacts.

but it's obvious you need to get your whole program together (diet, training, cardio) as you can adjust each depending on the other

 

[419Para_Dice]

Or you could simply follow what CowPimp said and eat the 2500 calories daily and go from there

i think thats what im going to do! thanks guys!

-Efrin

 

[Johnnny]

Don't eliminate carbs completely.

Your body still needs "some" carbs throughout the day to burn bodyfat when you go to train.

Consider your body like a car, where would a car go w/o any fuel?

No where.

Same with your body, your body needs fuel & energy to help burn fat.

 

[CowPimp]

Remember, gradually work your way up to 2500 calories. If you just start eating 2500 per day right away, then you may gain some fat because of your dabbling with very low calories.