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Cycle advise Test Deca Dbol

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What up fellas, I'm about to run the classic, test deca dbol cycle. I have nova, arimidex, caber, hcg for pct. looking for a little advise of when to pin.

Test Prop?

Test E 500 a week 1-14

Deca 400 a week 1-12

Dbol 40-50mg 6-7 weeks. I don't drink or do anything that would put additional stress on my liver.


So based on this can anyone help a brother out? Looking for when to pin and how much. Thank's guys! Appreciate it.
 
Thanks!!

2 hours a day and 2 times on weekends?? When do you give your body a chance to grow? You do know that you grow when your body is resting/in your sleep. Don't overdo it brother. 4 times a week is fine...maybe 5. But I can't stress how important rest/recovery is.

As for your cycle, it looks OK. Pin both deca and test 2X a week (test 250mg and deca 200mg 2X a week)....they are long ester compounds. You can use prop up front until the test e starts to kick in. Use your HCG DURING your cycle, not when PCT comes along. Start your AI on day one (others have a different opinion on this). Use clomid for PCT...not nolva. Keep the nolva on hand just in case of an emergency. I'll let some of the other guys toss some more advice at you. But please, read our stickies.

It is possible to get 15 lbs. out of this cycle if your diet and training are all correct. Good luck.





/V
 
Your the man VictorZ06! That is very true, resting is very important. I sometimes for get that. Thanks for all your advice. I will put it to good use!
 
Your test dose is too low , bring it up to 700 and with both deca and d-bol you definitely need proviron to control some water or you are going to puff up 50mg a day is plenty . You could use mast instead but proviron will be fine, just watch bp as deca will raise hematocrit and provi will increase bp too.
Be sure to split your dbol dose up twice a day and go heavy with vitamin B complex and C while on d-bol.
 
NoviceAAS said:
Your test dose is too low , bring it up to 700 and with both deca and d-bol you definitely need proviron to control some water or you are going to puff up 50mg a day is plenty . You could use mast instead but proviron will be fine, just watch bp as deca will raise hematocrit and provi will increase bp too.
Be sure to split your dbol dose up twice a day and go heavy with vitamin B complex and C while on d-bol.
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Shouldn't I run the Test higher then the Deca? I have had Deca dick in the past and it's a bitch. Sloppy ass boner lol. All tho I did read that its the prolactin That actually fucks you up. Maybe some caber would help with that. But I don't want to be the one to test it. The arimidex will not help with the bloat? Vitamin B check complex C check. Thanks bro.
 
Awe shit, I see what you were saying. Just bump the test up to 700. damn it haha
 
You ran your HCG during PCT last time? Run it during....how much adex where you running? Did you run that only during PCT or during your cycle? And I agree with the guys, bump up the test dose.



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Last time I ran HCG was weeks 7-12 and I stopped it right before I started pct. I used adex .5mg EOD and increased it as needed. I ran that up until the day I started my pct. I'm going to go with your day one suggestion on that. Do you think bumping the Test to 700 would make that much of a difference?
 
Yes. There is a difference between 500 and 700mg. I would bump up your AI dose....especially if you are using adex. Good call stopping the HCG before PCT. IMHO. Some like to adjust it or start using it as they go along. I prefer to make sure I won't have much to worry about and take my AI on day one as I suggested above. Some guys I know take their AI a week BEFORE starting their cycle.



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Thank's for all the great advise. Ya I like the idea of covering the sides before they start. What's the best AI you would recommend?
 
I use adex ON cycle, and aromasin for PCT. Do some research and you will find it to be a good combo. I'll see if I can find that study showing the adex for on, and the aromasin for PCT.



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Awesome thread here guys. Victor laying down the knowledge. Good luck Seattle looks like you have been put on the right path. As a rule I always run test/deca at a 2:1 ratio. But 400 and 700 is close enough. If its your 4th cycle. Enjoy using the lower test numbers. Old timers like me are running 1.25 gr a week, would much rather run 500-700.

Make sure you eat like its your job and take Vic's advise on the rest days. Your lifts will be better with more rest.
 
Ya for sure, Victor knows his shit. Ya bro, I'm going to have to force food down. But that's no problem. I'll do what ever it takes. 4th cycle. Is true. If I run it at 500 That would be the highest I have run test ever. So I'm still debating if I should go 700. 1,25 gr per week! damn bro. Once you build up to that dosage, are the sides less likely to hit you hard? If your body builds a tolerance to the test does it build tolerance for sides to?
 
Yea the sides can be harsher if you don't know what your doing. The biggest goal for someone beginning (in my opinion) Is to find out how their own bodies respond to this, and how to properly administer AI's and SERM's as needed based on the experience of knowing how your body reacts to each compound. The only one I really can't get rid of is heart burn and some times acne. Everything else is right in line even on over a gram of test.

The only compound I have noticed that it feels like your body builds a tolerance to is tren. It just stops working at some point for me around week 16. Everything else still works well even on long cycles.
 
SoCalSwole said:
Yea the sides can be harsher if you don't know what your doing. The biggest goal for someone beginning (in my opinion) Is to find out how their own bodies respond to this, and how to properly administer AI's and SERM's as needed based on the experience of knowing how your body reacts to each compound. The only one I really can't get rid of is heart burn and some times acne. Everything else is right in line even on over a gram of test.

The only compound I have noticed that it feels like your body builds a tolerance to is tren. It just stops working at some point for me around week 16. Everything else still works well even on long cycles.
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Very good information, Ya heart burn is a bitch man I know what you mean there. Nothing helps. Ya I'm still Figuring out what my body can handle. Haven't tried Tren yet, but I'm doing my research as we speak. Very Interesting compound. I keep reading Alot of people go crazy, lol and shit test makes me crazy already, so that's the main reason I'm scared to try haha. It ever effect you mentally?
 
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