Cycle help

[jsmith1980]

I am looking for some advice on an upcoming cycle. I have always ran Tren E/test cycles in the past, but wanting to do something a little less havoc on my body. I was considering running NPP 300mg/ wk for 4 weeks, starting deca @ 300/wk going for 12 weeks. After reading about the delayed effects of deca, I read that using NPP as you start deca helps jump start the cycle. I would also be running 300mg of testosterone/ wk. Does this sound right?

NPP 300mg week 1-4
Deca 300mg week 1-12
Test C 300mg week 1-12

Please let me know what you think. I might have misunderstood the information I obtained.

 

[jsmith1980]

Or should I stay away from the deca and just run NPP the entire time? Also running armidex .5mg eod.

 

[crab107]

Dropp the npp, stay with deca, run some anadrol or dbol for the first 4, take 4 week break from the oral and then run it again...youll go KABOOOM..LOL

And bump that test c up to 600 by god

 

[Paranoid Fitness]

Do you fart at the gym?

 

[jsmith1980]

I was under the impression that running NPP with deca in the beginning because it's a shorter ester and has less water retention and jump starts the cycle. Since deca is a longer ester and takes awhile to really kick in. Am I wrong in thinking this?

 

[Xsbobber]

You are correct in thinking that, but a lot of guys prefer one over the other. I personally like Npp better because it gives drier gains than deca. If you were planning on running deca than yes you could jump
start it with Npp.

 

[jsmith1980]

Thanks, xsbobber. I'm ordering soon. So maybe just run NPP for the duration. Drier is better to me.

 

[Paranoid Fitness]

Without stats, cycle history and some sort of goal set for what you're trying to achieve you're probably not going to get a lot of feedback.
Especially since what you want to know is easily researched on the forum.
I will chime in because it seems like you're just seeking clarification.

You can jumpstart deca with NPP.
You can jumpstart Test C with Prop.
The question is, Do you really need to?
You're running a pretty tame cycle at 300mg/wk each of two different compounds.
A jumpstart really wouldn't be necessary IMO but I'd actually extend the cycle out to 16 weeks.
If you want to "see" quicker gains add an oral such as Dbol or Anadrol.

 

[jsmith1980]

That makes sense. My apologies for the lack of information. I'm 6'2" 230#. Not sure of my body fat, but I'm definitely not fat. I have been on TRT for the past year at 100mg/wk of test c. I've always ran Tren e in the past, but felt like it wrecks havoc on me over the cycle. I was looking to bulk up, but not become stay puff marshmallow man. Been cruising for 8 months, wanted to blast with deca or NPP or the combination of both. Wanting the muscle mass with the least amount of water retention I can get. All while using more tame gear.

 

[biggerthanyou]

if you want to be drier why run any oral? d-bol bloats me

 

[Paranoid Fitness]

That makes sense. My apologies for the lack of information. I'm 6'2" 230#. Not sure of my body fat, but I'm definitely not fat. I have been on TRT for the past year at 100mg/wk of test c. I've always ran Tren e in the past, but felt like it wrecks havoc on me over the cycle. I was looking to bulk up, but not become stay puff marshmallow man. Been cruising for 8 months, wanted to blast with deca or NPP or the combination of both. Wanting the muscle mass with the least amount of water retention I can get. All while using more tame gear.

Thank you.

I see nothing wrong with your cycle except that it is too short for the long esters. Some guys will disagree.
I would run the Test at 500mg/wk myself if I were running that cycle.
Make sure you have an AI and pct on-hand and ready to go.

If you're going back to TRT after the cycle you will not need to PCT but you still need an AI on hand.
As far as fluid retention, it just depends of how predisposed you are to it. You will always get some. Some guys get a lot.

 

[jsmith1980]

Thanks paranoid fitness!! I really appreciate the feedback.

 

[Paranoid Fitness]

As far as body fat, your doctor will have a BMI rating on your chart most likely for every visit.
Your gym will probably do a caliper test on you for free.
There are much better ways to determining body fat but they are usually not free.

 

[johnsonl3872]

I have run npp with decca a few times....just back down npp later

 

[Gamuscle]

I love npp. Just have to pin more often. Deca stays with you so long and if you aren't experienced pct could be a bitch.

 

[jsmith1980]

@johnson. When you say back down on the NPP later.... What do you mean? Like taper off, or less mg?

 

[johnsonl3872]

@johnson. When you say back down on the NPP later.... What do you mean? Like taper off, or less mg?

Yes.....taper off