Cycle Opinions Wanted

[TrojanMan60563]

What would be the difference in results...and sides etc... between these two cycles. Thanks for your opinions.

1-12 500mg Test E

OR

1-25 250mg Test E

What would be the difference between a shorter high dosed cycle vs a longer lower dosed cycle.

 

[GFR]

If you were an older guy 45+ I might say do the longer cycle but at 25 I would just stick with 8-10 week cycles. Just an opinion, the 12+ cycles shut me down big time....the 8 week cycles gave me 95% of the size and strength of a 12 weeker with no shut down at all and no noticable sides.

 

[kicka19]

but the question is would there be a big diff from 250mg to 500 mg, i think thats what he is asking

 

[Pirate!]

The difference in sides are significant. You will be more prone to anxiety on the higher dose, given your history. However, I wouldn't advice that long cycle. Have you ever done nandrolone, TrojanMan? It helps promote a sense of well being.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

The difference in sides are significant. You will be more prone to anxiety on the higher dose, given your history. However, I wouldn't advice that long cycle. Have you ever done nandrolone, TrojanMan? It helps promote a sense of well being.

I figured on a low dose longer cycle I will get a built in taper up in dose as the weeks go by allowing me to adjust easily to the increase in dose. I am begining to think longer cycles would yield better gains, and more keepable gains. As long as I keep some HCG in the mix I shouldn't have a horrible recovery. My issue with the higher dose shorter cycle is sides. I get bad anxiety as mentioned before and my BP goes up quick. The water retension is bad too.

My last cycle was 500mg Test E and 400mg Deca. That combo of drugs made me bloat real bad. My legs held a LOT of water. My damn shoes were fitting much tighter. All that led to a big jump in BP. That cycle lasted 6 weeks before I stopped early.

I am not going to cycle for a bit anyways just wanted to get some opinions on this. I feel like its either going to be long esters for a long time, or short esters for a short time.

 

[Pirate!]

I didn't bloat too bad with prop/npp. Using an AI was beneficial, as well. I've never had BP issues, myself. I think a problem with long cycles is that your SHBG keeps rising, limiting the amount of free test.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Pirate have you heard anything about long cycles leading to more keep-able gains? I have read that a longer cycle allows the body to adjust to the new muscle making it more keep-able assuming the PCT is correct. I feel like I could naturally hold 220-240lbs of LBM. Right now its around 210lbs. Off cycle I would like to keep as much muscle as my body can...so the idea of a longer cycle with easier kept gains appeals to me.

 

[Pirate!]

I don't believe there is a direct correlation. If one makes rapid gains on a short cycle, say gaining 20 lbs from 6 weeks of prop/dbol, they won't keep as much as if they put on 20 lbs over a longer period. That seems to be what most observe. People do report recovery takes much longer for long cycles. Long recovery leads to lost gains. Slow and steady wins the race, but a 5 month cycle at one constant dose of Test only doesn't sound good. Your body is constantly adapting due to homeostasis. Of course, my experience is limited. Perhaps others will share their experiences...

 

[topolo]

I don't believe there is a direct correlation. If one makes rapid gains on a short cycle, say gaining 20 lbs from 6 weeks of prop/dbol, they won't keep as much as if they put on 20 lbs over a longer period. That seems to be what most observe. People do report recovery takes much longer for long cycles. Long recovery leads to lost gains. Slow and steady wins the race, but a 5 month cycle at one constant dose of Test only doesn't sound good. Your body is constantly adapting due to homeostasis. Of course, my experience is limited. Perhaps others will share their experiences...

What about 300 for 10 weeks? Positive gains?

 

[Pirate!]

What about 300 for 10 weeks? Positive gains?

For a first cycle and assuming everything else is in order, yes, postive gains for sure.

 

[Tough Old Man]

What would be the difference in results...and sides etc... between these two cycles. Thanks for your opinions.

1-12 500mg Test E

OR

1-25 250mg Test E

What would be the difference between a shorter high dosed cycle vs a longer lower dosed cycle.

250 mgs a week is just a little over the dosage of what they give aids patients. Doubt if it would do shit for you. 500 mgs is not going to hurt you at all if done for 12 weeks. Go for it

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Thanks for all your opinions....seems like the 12 week 500mg cycle would be a better bet. I can see how the recovery would be easier from this. I am still a 2-3 months away from going on cycle so I have time to think it through more. I might reconsider doing a 4-6 week prop cycle instead....

 

[Tough Old Man]

Thanks for all your opinions....seems like the 12 week 500mg cycle would be a better bet. I can see how the recovery would be easier from this. I am still a 2-3 months away from going on cycle so I have time to think it through more. I might reconsider doing a 4-6 week prop cycle instead....

Shit that would work great and you won't hold water from the prop. 150mgs eod would be 525 mgs a week and for 6 weeks would do it if you can handle the injection like i'm doing. I'll finish 6 weeks of tren A this week. Wasn't bad injecting eod for the 6 weeks.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Shit that would work great and you won't hold water from the prop. 150mgs eod would be 525 mgs a week and for 6 weeks would do it if you can handle the injection like i'm doing. I'll finish 6 weeks of tren A this week. Wasn't bad injecting eod for the 6 weeks.

Last time I ran prop I was doing 150mg EOD. The injections are not too bad once you get used to being sore all the time. I really like short esters due to the quick results and if you have sides like I did (super bad anxiety without any meds) the test will get out of you fast. I think my first cycle back on gear will be a short prop cycle to see how it goes before jumping on longer esters. I may never run tren because of my anxiety/panic disorder. I hear it can greatly increase anxiety.