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D-Bol am i too young?

nombie

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Im 18 years of age and hav been pumping for half a year my busy life style and work i find it hard to count my calories so there for am finding it difficult to get the gains i want. I wish to start a 6 week cylce of d-bol am i too young to start the cycle? will it cause me permanent infertilaty etc what side effects could cause permanent damage?

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you better run now. (but just out of curiousity, why do you think you need Dbol?)
 
Bro if you cant count calories dont waste your time, drugs to make magical gains out of nowhere. If you think Ronnie Coleman does drugs and only eats a couple times a day you would be very mistaken, food is NUMBER ONE without question, cutting, bulking, drugs or no drugs.

The list of POSSIBLE things that could occur losing hair, enlargement of the heart, and so on are miles long and require you doing your own research. Nobody is going to write a book here for you, and we can't know all the questions to ask you about your own personal health and the genetic history of your family, how prone you are to abusing things due to mental addiction and so on.

It requires an educated decision on your part, random people on the internet can't hand out safe medical advice for you.

Good luck
 
nombie said:
Im 18 years of age and hav been pumping for half a year my busy life style and work i find it hard to count my calories so there for am finding it difficult to get the gains i want. I wish to start a 6 week cylce of d-bol am i too young to start the cycle? will it cause me permanent infertilaty etc what side effects could cause permanent damage?

Cheers

lol...been lifting for 6 months and you think you are ready for roids ? you have a long way to go, many years...and yes you are way to young for gear

stop looking for the easy route to getting big muscles...
 
nombie, at 18 years old chances are you have more testosterone in your system than many of us who are currently ON-CYCLE. you do NOT need gear.

Count calories and spread the food through the day, lift hard and you will grow without a problem.
 
Even if you eat complete crap, calories are on the box. Paper, is also readily available now, and writing is no longer a black art.

www.fitday.com also offers a journal function which was easy for me to use if you are at a computer frequently.
 
Mudge I dont know his situtation, but for someone like me whos in college its IMPOSSIBLE. I made the mistake of getting a meal plan, im required to eat there crap everyday but I also eat my own food too. I pick out the best food they have and I can kinda guestimate the calories in it. But no means would I be able to cut like this, gain weight easily but cut no.
 
Eating right as a college student isn't that hard. It just requires planning and preparation. I bring my food to school everyday. You don't have to buy into some "meal plan". Do some research on the diet forum and learn simple math. It can be done.
 
JoeR. said:
Mudge I dont know his situtation, but for someone like me whos in college its IMPOSSIBLE. I made the mistake of getting a meal plan, im required to eat there crap everyday but I also eat my own food too. I pick out the best food they have and I can kinda guestimate the calories in it. But no means would I be able to cut like this, gain weight easily but cut no.


So you made the mistake this year of getting the meal pass...you can either take the loss and spend the extra money to eat right, or quit complaining about the mistake. Hopefully it was a lesson learned and next year you will choose to spend your money smarter.
 
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Shawn Ray is one person who never counts calories, however he eats the same things day in and day out, and watches the scale religiously. With time, you can do things like that if you so chose and you payed attention, he is a smart guy so he can probably recite by heart his entire workout which at this point I could do on many days of the week, pounds, sets and reps - however writing it down probably helps nail it into my head.

So with diet for him, he knows what a portion size is for him, and can mentally calculate right then and there how many calories he is about to dump and if he needs to eat more or not.

If you are eating college "crap" food, the one thing that is a for sure is you need to throw in more protein. If you are not happy with your bodyweight and want more, then you need to supplement your current food intake with another few hundred calories, which 2-3 protein shakes a day alone would cover. Within 3 months or so though you are probably going to want to throw in another 500 calories, which you could easily get from $2-$3 in Hot Pockets if you wanted to be lazy (some people can eat like shit and maintain good bodyfat levels). Most of the Hot Pockets together will give you a combined total of 580-640 or so calories.

When I had difficulty doing my 5400-6500 calories (because I made the mistake of fast ramp up after coming off a hardcore 2300 calorie cutter), I was eating donuts, corn dogs, and anything calorically dense to help make up my totals. My first jump after 2300 was about 2000 on top of that, and my stomach was not ready for the much larger meals, and I was hitting the bathroom LITTERALLY after each and every meal. 900 calories per meal as my minimum, with occasional 2700 calories or greater coming from Burger King via 4 double cheeseburgers and a soda or shake as I chose. I touched just under 270 before dropping some calories.

Eating like that I was holding water and was nowhere near ripped (16.1%), but if you need weight there is always a way to do it if you want it. You just need to be religious about the eating, not 4 days out of 7, because there is the law of averages working with you or against you. You have to be consistent with the eating, every day. I can, and have lost a pound a day or greater from simply missing a meal or two. Much of that is water but will show up in size and strength loss little by little, remembering of course that your muscles are about 70% water.
 
shit mudge, i couldn't eat that many cal's if i had to. i eat clean and although i love beef, I try to not have beef except once every other week or so because of gout. And I don't eat any seafood. can't stand it. I fight to get 4000 cal's a day. I seem to eat the same thing day in and day out. I'm sick of the food I eat. Maybe I should take up a weeks of burger king to get things kickin again
 
Yes you are too young. :finger:
 
Tough Old Man said:
I fight to get 4000 cal's a day. I seem to eat the same thing day in and day out.

Eating clean is a whole other story, oatmeal and rice and chicken breast all day and added in EFAs - the oats and rice FILL you up because of all the water you pull in, and I like to drink a lot of fluids with my meals making that worse.

450 calories of oatmeal is not even a large yogurt which I can down with ease, the oatmeal takes longer to eat and therefore sends the full signal sooner, and is more boring to eat.

I hear you on eating the same things over and over, I used to do turkey burgers for the longest time, beef is one thing I eat constantly. I have a friend with gout who used to do Atkins, but it gives her problems as well, I dont know much about gout though.
 
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