Dear Senator...

[DOMS]

I would imagine everyone at this board has purchased something from Wal-Mart or many other of the mass poroducers that not only hire illegals, but outsource jobs to foreign countries in order to save a buck. Not to mention purchased Nike shoes from sweat shop kids. I don't see how one could be against one but not the other. Personally, I don't care if a kid assembled my shoes for a dollar, or my gardener hires illegals. If it's going to save me a buck in the end, I am fine with it.

The difference is simple, one happens outside my country and the other does not.

 

[Pepper]

The difference is simple, one happens outside my country and the other does not.

You buy your Nike's outside the US?

The outsourcing takes jobs that clearly Americans would do and could support their family sends them overseas.

IMO opinion the reason we need to get illegals undercontrol is the strain they place on our social services and hospitals. A system we have set up to take care of own is being abused and we are ALL paying for it.

 

[Dale Mabry]

So you wouldn't hire a gardener or whatever for $50 who hires illegals and is as good as a gardener who charges $100 but hires on the up and up?

 

[Dale Mabry]

IMO opinion the reason we need to get illegals undercontrol is the strain they place on our social services and hospitals. A system we have set up to take care of own is being abused and we are ALL paying for it.

Same here, if I am going to bitch about them not paying $1000 a year in taxes, I should take offense at tax cuts that save the top 1% tens of thousands that is eventually going to come from me.

If I were not insured and got injured, my credit would get fucked if I didn't pay the medical bills. These fucks don't worry about credit because they have none.

 

[DOMS]

You buy your Nike's outside the US?

This would be one of the "in my country" things.

The outsourcing takes jobs that clearly Americans would do and could support their family sends them overseas.

Outsourcing is a part of a capitalistic system. The only problem I have with it is the tax loopholes it makes for corporations. Those need to be removed.

IMO opinion the reason we need to get illegals undercontrol is the strain they place on our social services and hospitals. A system we have set up to take care of own is being abused and we are ALL paying for it.

I didn't say that the fiscal issue was the only issue. I'd also add the increased crime rate and lower neighborhood quality to your list.

 

[DOMS]

So you wouldn't hire a gardener or whatever for $50 who hires illegals and is as good as a gardener who charges $100 but hires on the up and up?

My sister tried that. I cost her one or two sprinkler heads per week. Now she only employs companies that don't hire illegals.

Me, I just hire a neighborhood kid.

 

[Dale Mabry]

How old is he?

 

[Pepper]

Me, I just hire a neighborhood kid.

Who doesn't pay any taxes either.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Who doesn't pay any taxes either.

DOMS sends him a 1099 at the end of the year.

How fucked up would that be?

 

[DOMS]

DOMS sends him a 1099 at the end of the year.

How fucked up would that be?

Hey, I paid taxes on that money when I earned it.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Hey, I pay taxes on that money when I earned it.

Yeah, but the American way is to be taxed, at minimum, 5-6 times on any money earned. Then, if you want to give it to your kid when you die, that is another one. Fuckers.

 

[DOMS]

Who doesn't pay any taxes either.

Yeah, but he doens't add anything to the crime rate. Oh, and he's here legally.

 

[DOMS]

Yeah, but the American way is to be taxed, at minimum, 5-6 times on any money earned. Then, if you want to give it to your kid when you die, that is another one. Fuckers.

Damn straight.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Yeah, but he doens't add anything to the crime rate.

Tax evasion is a crime.

 

[Pepper]

Tax evasion is a crime.

Excellent point, detective.

 

[BigDyl]

Tax evasion is a crime.

 

[DOMS]

Tax law is just like women to you BigDyl. If it came over and sat on your face, you wouldn't know what it was or what to do with it.

 

[DOMS]

Tax evasion is a crime.

So is bestiality, but that doesn't stop you.

 

[Dale Mabry]

So is bestiality, but that doesn't stop you.

It doesn't stop me, but it sure makes me think twice before doing it when people are around.

 

[topolo]

It doesn't stop me, but it sure makes me think twice before doing it when people are around.

No it doesn't

 

[DOMS]

Rumor has it that he hangs out in front of a Catholic school with a sheep.

 

[KelJu]

gotta hate losing cool points.

you can't say anything on this board without people overreacting.

I didn't hire any illegals, I simply facilitated my client, who wanted to properly file the taxes on these guys EVEN THOUGH they were illegal do so. When I was done with my work, some $10,000 went to the IRS each week.

I was just picking with you pepper. I know we don't agree on almost everything, but I don't judge your character by your political affiliations, or that you are an accountant.

 

[DOMS]

GAAP = Greatly Abused Accounting Principles

 

[Dale Mabry]

No it doesn't

Sure it does, I think twice, but still do it.

 

[Pepper]

I was just picking with you pepper. I know we don't agree on almost everything, but I don't judge your character by your political affiliations, or that you are an accountant.

NP

My wife is from Alabama...Huntsville.

 

[Arnold]

I have alot of clients involved in things that I find questionable. I have had strippers as clients. I am not bothered by this, but my partners were.
Last I checked being a stripper is LEGAL


What is somewhat amusing, if I posted that I was firing a client b/c I felt what he was doing was wrong, you'd call me religious zealot who was imposing my sense of morals on everyone else.
We are not talking about morality, we are talking about legality.


I did quit doing the payroll several years before he gave it up. Everytime I filed his W-2s, I got a letter from the SSA. Decided that we should not be involved.
Ya think?


However, if you assume the facts are as I stated, who was harmed by these guys? They were paying tax, they were plucking chickens when BMW was hiring every able-bodied person. All of the BMW-support companies were hiring. Unemployment was ridiculously low.
I will not even get into the "who are they are harming argument"...


While I agree with you (or this letter,) my personal situation makes me think this situation is a little more complicated than just kicking all of the illegals out.
Huh?

I guess it just surprises me that you would turn a blind eye to a company that is blatently breaking the law like that.

 

[Pepper]

I guess it just surprises me that you would turn a blind eye to a company that is blatently breaking the law like that.

The company went to great lengths to make sure they were not violating the law. When the IRS informed him that since he was having so much trouble verifying SSNs that he would have to up his withholding to a flat 20%, he shut down.

He broke no laws.

I can't tell you how many attorney's meetings I attended to make sure he stayed legal with the immigration folks and the IRS. Every single one of them presented the proper paperwork for employment. Every single one. When the IRS came in, I got a CRATE of paperwork with photocopies of it.

Had he been violating any laws, he'd have gotten much worse than an incrreased withholding requirement.

Everytime I post in Open Chat, I end up regretting it.

 

[Arnold]

Everytime I post in Open Chat, I end up regretting it.