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Hello, I just finished 4 weeks of PCT and it has been 6 weeks since my last shot. Can I start taking dianabol @ 10-20mg and bridge along with 4-6g Tribulus, 5g Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Multi-vitamin etc.. and a natural test booster TILL I start my next cycle in about 6 weeks?
 
604Guy said:
Hello, I just finished 4 weeks of PCT and it has been 6 weeks since my last shot. Can I start taking dianabol @ 10-20mg and bridge along with 4-6g Tribulus, 5g Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Multi-vitamin etc.. and a natural test booster TILL I start my next cycle in about 6 weeks?
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You essential just missed the whole point of a "bridge"

if you were planning on bridging you could have just neglected PCT and continue with low dose dbol.

Id rather Cruise with test, but thats me.

Since you have just finished PCT, go ahead and wait another 3 weeks at least and then cycle again, dont just start dbol...? your Bridge window is now over.
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
You essential just missed the whole point of a "bridge"

if you were planning on bridging you could have just neglected PCT and continue with low dose dbol.

Id rather Cruise with test, but thats me.

Since you have just finished PCT, go ahead and wait another 3 weeks at least and then cycle again, dont just start dbol...? your Bridge window is now over.
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Well.. I guess I know for next time. What should I do now? I was thinking of doing dbol to gain about 15lbs of water, lifting hard and eating 500-600 above maintenance + energy used.

Then start my cycle and bulk up another 25-30lbs and keep 15lbs after cycle finished. A total of 25lbs gain is the target.
 
604Guy said:
Well.. I guess I know for next time. What should I do now? I was thinking of doing dbol to gain about 15lbs of water, lifting hard and eating 500-600 above maintenance + energy used.

Then start my cycle and bulk up another 25-30lbs and keep 15lbs after cycle finished. A total of 25lbs gain is the target.
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My suggestion If you would like to run a pre cycle of sorts run something like Super DMZ, before hand then start your injectables.

But honestly I would wait another 3 weeks, and then go on another all out blast.

What were you thinking for your cycle layout?
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
My suggestion If you would like to run a pre cycle of sorts run something like Super DMZ, before hand then start your injectables.

But honestly I would wait another 3 weeks, and then go on another all out blast.

What were you thinking for your cycle layout?
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Either one of these bro...

Cycle 1: Dbol, Deca, Test E

WK 6 - 10 Dbol @ 30mg/week
WK 1 - 12 Deca @ 300mg/week
WK 1 - 16 Test E @ 500mg/week

Cycle 2: Tren, Test Prop, Masteron Prop

WK 1 - 12 Test Prop @ 525mg/week (75mg/ED)
WK 1 - 10 Tren Ace @ 245mg/week (35mg/ED)
WK 8 - 12 Masteron Prop @ 350mg/week (50mg/ED)
 
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604Guy said:
Either one of these bro...

Cycle 1: Dbol, Deca, Test E

WK 6 - 10 Dbol @ 30mg/week $95
WK 1 - 12 Deca @ 300mg/week $160
WK 1 - 16 Test E @ 500mg/week $250

Cycle 2: Tren, Test Prop, Masteron Prop

WK 1 - 12 Test Prop @ 500mg/week (150mg/EOD) $340
WK 1 - 10 Tren Ace @ 262.5mg/week (75mg/EOD) $250
WK 8 - 12 Masteron Prop @ 350mg/week (100mg/EOD) $180
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By the looks of those cycles you have 2 different goals in mind, one for cutting recomp one for bulking.

What are your goals?
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
Okay I have something in mind for you, What is your cycle Experience and Stats.

Be honest brother! :winkfinger:
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Kind of like this in my life:

110lbs ==> 148lbs
148lbs ==> 140lbs
140lbs ==> 163lbs
163lbs ==> 137lbs

Cycle 1:
137lbs ==> 162lbs (after cycle gains) - 177lbs max on cycle

Cycle 2:
158lbs ==> 148lbs (after cycle) Aug.26th, 2011 last shot

Now:
148lbs ==> 160-162lbs (goal before cycle)

Cycle 3: (future)
160lbs ==> 178lbs (after cycle gains)
178lbs ==> 172lbs (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)
172lbs ==> 178lbs (natural bulk goal during time off)

Cycle 4: (future)
178lbs ==> 196lbs (after cycle gains)
196lbs ==> 190lbs (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)

190lbs ==> 195lbs (natural bulk goal during time off)

Cycle 5: (future)
195lbs ==> 210lbs (after cycle gains)

210lbs ==> 205 (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)

Cycle 6: (future)
205lbs ==> 215lbs (after cycle gains)

Cycle 7: (future)
215lbs ==> 195lbs (after cycle cut BF % to 7-8% BF)

Then bulk again...after with test & tren.
This is my 3year objective and achievable numbers. I will of course try to aim for maximum results of each cycle and push through these numbers.

Currently 151 lbs

ps - the above future cycles are an example, and im opened to suggestions.
 
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604Guy said:
Kind of like this in my life:

110lbs ==> 148lbs
148lbs ==> 140lbs
140lbs ==> 163lbs
163lbs ==> 137lbs

Cycle 1:
137lbs ==> 162lbs (after cycle gains) - 177lbs max on cycle

Cycle 2:
158lbs ==> 148lbs (after cycle) Aug.26th, 2011 last shot

Now:
148lbs ==> 160-162lbs (goal before cycle)

Cycle 3: (future)
160lbs ==> 178lbs (after cycle gains)
178lbs ==> 172lbs (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)
172lbs ==> 178lbs (natural bulk goal during time off)

Cycle 4: (future)
178lbs ==> 196lbs (after cycle gains)
196lbs ==> 190lbs (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)

190lbs ==> 195lbs (natural bulk goal during time off)

Cycle 5: (future)
195lbs ==> 210lbs (after cycle gains)

210lbs ==> 205 (drop a 2-3% of BF, do cardio and cut a bit while maintaining muscle)

Cycle 6: (future)
205lbs ==> 215lbs (after cycle gains)

Cycle 7: (future)
215lbs ==> 195lbs (after cycle cut BF % to 7-8% BF)

Then bulk again...after with test & tren.
This is my 3year objective and achievable numbers. I will of course try to aim for maximum results of each cycle and push through these numbers.

Currently 151 lbs

ps - the above future cycles are an example, and im opened to suggestions.
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Good post but give me your current high and BF, and what compounds your 3 cycles consisted of.

Lots Of questions I know but then we can tailor something very specific for you. What compounds in your mind worked well for you with minimal sides?

Also as for your future theory, it wont work out hat way sadly, the more cycles you do and the bigger you get gains slow dramatically, for me If I gain a solid 10lbs form a cycle I am happy, when before in my beginning years it was 20+
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
Good post but give me your current high and BF, and what compounds your 3 cycles consisted of.

Lots Of questions I know but then we can tailor something very specific for you. What compounds in your mind worked well for you with minimal sides?

Also as for your future theory, it wont work out hat way sadly, the more cycles you do and the bigger you get gains slow dramatically, for me If I gain a solid 10lbs form a cycle I am happy, when before in my beginning years it was 20+
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Im 5"7 151lbs 8-9% bf

I used Dbol 20mg @ 5 weeks + Test E @ 500mg for 12 weeks 1st cycle.
I used Test E @ 500mg for 12 weeks + Masteron Prop 100mg EOD last 6 weeks + Winstrol 50mg last 4 weeks for 2nd cycle.
 
Do you want to PM me your skype? lets chat bro? please help.
 
OSL will hook you up, just keep being honest with him! He has a lot of knowledge!
 
I haven't forgot about you brother, ill have something tailored for you soon, on my phone at the moment
 
Here is my Proposed Cycle for you, I think this will help you reach your goals, and it is not to advanced, but not exactly basic. While keep in mind even with a crazy good diet 40lbs is alot to ask for, lets shoot for a 20-25lbs gains with maybe 15lbs or so LBM!

The Cycle

1-15 Test E 750mg/wk
1-13 N Deca 400-500mg/wk
1-4 Super DMZ Rx 2 caps Daily
7-12 Dbol 50mg/ed
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg/ed or eod, up to 25mg ed or eod
5-15 Cabergoline .5mg Twice Weekly ( optional imo but recommended )

PCT

17 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
18 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
19 - 75mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin ED
20 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
21 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
Here is my Proposed Cycle for you, I think this will help you reach your goals, and it is not to advanced, but not exactly basic. While keep in mind even with a crazy good diet 40lbs is alot to ask for, lets shoot for a 20-25lbs gains with maybe 15lbs or so LBM!

The Cycle

1-15 Test E 750mg/wk
1-13 N Deca 400-500mg/wk
1-4 Super DMZ Rx 2 caps Daily
7-12 Dbol 50mg/ed
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg/ed or eod, up to 25mg ed or eod
5-15 Cabergoline .5mg Twice Weekly ( optional imo but recommended )

PCT

17 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
18 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
19 - 75mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin ED
20 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
21 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
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Bro, I was wondering if canadian users use less gear than european/american? I was mentioned a lot on another forum that all i need is 500mg for test and everything else keep the dosage low.

What do you think about this bro...as on the lighter dosage:

The Cycle

1-15 Test E 500mg/wk
1-13 N Deca 300/wk
1-4 Super DMZ Rx 2 caps Daily
7-12 Dbol 30mg/ed
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg/ed or eod, up to 25mg ed or eod
5-15 Cabergoline .5mg Twice Weekly ( optional imo but recommended )

PCT

17 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
18 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
19 - 75mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin ED
20 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
21 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD[/QUOTE]


I have liquid letro, can i replace that with aromasin?
Please let me know what you think bro..im just a newbie and wants to learn and willing to change.


This will be my 2nd bulking cycle. My first one was 20mg Dbol ED, 500mg Test E/week. made big gains - went up 41lbs during cycle, and kept 25lbs.
 
604Guy said:
Bro, I was wondering if canadian users use less gear than european/american? I was mentioned a lot on another forum that all i need is 500mg for test and everything else keep the dosage low.

What do you think about this bro...as on the lighter dosage:

The Cycle

1-15 Test E 500mg/wk
1-13 N Deca 300/wk
1-4 Super DMZ Rx 2 caps Daily
7-12 Dbol 30mg/ed
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg/ed or eod, up to 25mg ed or eod
5-15 Cabergoline .5mg Twice Weekly ( optional imo but recommended )

PCT

17 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
18 - 100mg Clomid ED / 25mg Aromasin ED
19 - 75mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin ED
20 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
21 - 50mg Clomid ED / 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
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I have liquid letro, can i replace that with aromasin?
Please let me know what you think bro..im just a newbie and wants to learn and willing to change.


This will be my 2nd bulking cycle. My first one was 20mg Dbol ED, 500mg Test E/week. made big gains - went up 41lbs during cycle, and kept 25lbs.[/QUOTE]

Your revisions are fine, but for me 400mg a week of nandrolone is a minimal dosage. That is why I recommended the 750 Test and 400.

I think you will be very happy with the results.

The whole Canadian's use less gear thing is funny eh! kidding. But the funny thing is going from 500mg test to 750 you can tell a very big difference, but 750-1g I couldn't really tell as much personally until I go to 1.3 or so.

Either cycle you choose your revised plan or mine, I think that is going to be your absolute best option.

You can even sub out the deca for NPP but you will need to pin eod or e3d
 
OldSchoolLifter said:
I have liquid letro, can i replace that with aromasin?
Please let me know what you think bro..im just a newbie and wants to learn and willing to change.


This will be my 2nd bulking cycle. My first one was 20mg Dbol ED, 500mg Test E/week. made big gains - went up 41lbs during cycle, and kept 25lbs.
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Your revisions are fine, but for me 400mg a week of nandrolone is a minimal dosage. That is why I recommended the 750 Test and 400.

I think you will be very happy with the results.

The whole Canadian's use less gear thing is funny eh! kidding. But the funny thing is going from 500mg test to 750 you can tell a very big difference, but 750-1g I couldn't really tell as much personally until I go to 1.3 or so.

Either cycle you choose your revised plan or mine, I think that is going to be your absolute best option.

You can even sub out the deca for NPP but you will need to pin eod or e3d[/QUOTE]


thank you big bro! NPP = durabolin right?

also sides are big difference from 500mg to 750mg..is it true? Remember I will start my cycle around 160lbs lol not 220lbs!

Also I read in a steroid profile thread that Deca usually is best 2mg/per lb. That means Ideally I should aim for 320mg/week since I will be 160lbs? 300mg-600mg was the typical dosage I heard..

revision me! LOL
 
Once you start getting into all the bro-science rule of thumbs then it gets complicated, a good dose for deca from new users to older user is 400mg then upward depending on where your test dose is.

The sides from Test at 500 compared to 750 are minimal at best, but the return rewards are much different.

NPP is nandrolone phenylpropionate half life 3-4 days, compared to nandrolone decanoate half life 12-14

500mg/wk yes will still make you grow, but I think you should run 400mg Deca, and your test needs to be a bit higher with nandrolone a good deal so 750 is a nice spot for you

Edit: and Adex is fine, But I would strongly consider switching to aromasin, as to me it is the king of AI's
 
Good afternoon big bro osl! K maybe I will try 750mg and 400mg deca.. But can I ramp it up the dosages and start from 500 to 750 for test and 300 to 400 for deca?

Also how about 30mg dbol? Thanks bro
 
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