Dnp

[pieguy]

He screwed up. You don't use dnp while you're running [FONT=arial, sans-serif]heavy diuretics and DNP is not for 3-4 weeks up to the competition unless you mistimed your prep. You don't listen to your body, you die, and blaming DNP for it is incredibly stupid. Most people die from over usage of diuretics these days or high rbc/hematocrit, not from things like DNP.[/FONT]

 

[XYZ]

what to take with DNP

This is a really good thread.

 

[pieguy]

How did I know you were going to link conciliator lol.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Ok. You're not that knowledgeable but you think it has to do with core temp? Is that right?

Insulin is much more dangerous than a low dose DNP, you can't even compare the two.

Keeping the dose reasonable is the key. Knowing the specifics of the drug, how it works, the half life and how and when to use it are all things that should be understood before using it.

Do you have any studies to reference to your claim?

I'll post up a great thread from a different board that is loaded with medical studies as well as the DNP "expert" as well. It might help you understand how it works and why it works.

I say I know little about it and that is just being honest. Obviously an OD doesn't cause dehydration...otherwise nobody would OD...they would just drink more. Dehydration doesn't happen without the water being lose...pee...sweat...the shits...I just don't believe that an OD of DNP causes dehydration. Maybe if you're dehydrated on DNP you're at more risk, but I believe it has to do with body core temp not dehydration when talking DNP overdose. I am not factoring in anything other than the OD of the DNP.

 

[longworthb]

The best use for it is after a bulk, or a cutter. Once the cutter is done and you have a week off of "dieting" you'll want to get the edge back, 1 week of DNP will put you right on point while eating poptarts, fig newtons, bagels and bread.

3-4.5lbs of fatloss in a week is not uncommon on low doses.

Obviously, I am pro DNP.

Ur really into figs aren't u

 

[ErikGearhead]

I agree, as with most things, moderate doses will yield the most sustainable results.
Up the dosage, and you risk death...or stay with 200-400mg and you should be fine, from the looks of it.
I'm not a fatty by any means, just want to shed a few in a short period of time for my job.

 

[XYZ]

I say I know little about it and that is just being honest. Obviously an OD doesn't cause dehydration...otherwise nobody would OD...they would just drink more. Dehydration doesn't happen without the water being lose...pee...sweat...the shits...I just don't believe that an OD of DNP causes dehydration. Maybe if you're dehydrated on DNP you're at more risk, but I believe it has to do with body core temp not dehydration when talking DNP overdose. I am not factoring in anything other than the OD of the DNP.

I think we are confusing one another.

I am stating that most deaths from DNP use are from a combination of high doses, alcohol and or rec. drug use and lack of hydration.

I think you're getting hung up on the hydration part and only the hydration part, but maybe I am wrong.

 

[XYZ]

Ur really into figs aren't u

They are an excellent source for carb loading. 11g per "cookie" and I can easily take down 2-3 containers in a day. When you're trying to push for 1500g of carbs in a single day it makes things a lot easier.

Using them with DNP is also good because they are a simple carb and the sugar and white flour used gets burned up really quick from the DNP. You'll feel the heat from it very quick. Others state they like to use full sugared soda (Coke, Pepsi) but the high fructose corn syrup is questionable in my mind. They do make a natural sugared one that could be a good option, but honestly I've never tried it.

 

[XYZ]

How did I know you were going to link conciliator lol.

Because he is the man when it comes to DNP, studies and knowledge.

 

[dieseljimmy]

Ur really into figs aren't u

fig netwons are fucking awesome. fruit and cake... dont mind if I do.

 

[Wrekem]

absolutely love dnp. low dose long duration is amazing. hit the 500mg mark for two days once and was sweating sitting in ruby tuesdays like i was in a medium pace cardio session. some people dont mind that dose or feeling, i could care less for it. use it in conjuction with prep, so tren and prop and anavar at the moment with 125mg of dnp ED. i had about 23 tabs left over so ima just run through them, take them every 24hrs to allow a little build up.

learn what to do, and you cant go wrong. take 1000mg like a girl who died from it over seas, and suffer the consequence. you cant fix stupid.

 

[s2h]

Idk the dose? I moved out of Cali when he was in prep. I'm not offended by this post at all man. He was using diuretics and he didn't listen to his body when he started to get really ill from it.. All I know is I've been around NPC/IFBB etc and very few competitors use it in conjunction with AAS/ diuretics PE's .. They all say its to dangerous and cramping is always an issue when 4 weeks out--for me! This is a great thread and I appreciate everybody and their opinions

very few admit to using it...dnp is a mainstay with almost all of the elite level bb's and even below that..just like slin its kinda a sore subject and not one many will discuss openly..the common practice is to blast dnp for 5-7 days at the start of ones prep..so 2-3 blasts in a 4-5 week window..once you get within 10 weeks or so most drop it..its kinda like a kick start oral..gets the ball rolling quick..XYZ covered it all about using it and what it does..he is correct in his posts..

i always find it funny when people who will run 2g's of gear..gobble clen like there skittles..pound cytomel for months..and find slin to be safe..will talk down about dnp..is any of it really safe in the short or long term??

 

[Wrekem]

many say its a staple with George Farrah's clients from what you can find online. either that or its speculations of certain comments he makes like how he limits cardio to very little and maintaining high carbs.

 

[s2h]

many say its a staple with George Farrah's clients from what you can find online. either that or its speculations of certain comments he makes like how he limits cardio to very little and maintaining high carbs.

im not sure about the Farah and dnp thing..i know 3 guys that have used Farah and none of them used dnp or was it even suggested..granted they weren't pro's but all 3 where doing national level shows and exp bb's...could be a rumor..maybe not..

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I think we are confusing one another.

I am stating that most deaths from DNP use are from a combination of high doses, alcohol and or rec. drug use and lack of hydration.

I think you're getting hung up on the hydration part and only the hydration part, but maybe I am wrong.

I am only talking effects of DNP in a dose that is too much. No combo drug effects etc.. DNP alone is deadly and IMO its not because you didn't drink enough water.

 

[XYZ]

I am only talking effects of DNP in a dose that is too much. No combo drug effects etc.. DNP alone is deadly and IMO its not because you didn't drink enough water.

Define too much?

Everyone has a different tolerance.

 

[hypo_glycemic]

^^ I agree.. It's deadly by itself. I talked to a friend that was training my friend who passed on it and he was NOT taking elicit drugs or diuretics. But IMO, if you take it, you like it, it doesn't make you feel sick, you're not getting dehydrated or depleting the fascia to the point of organ failure, then it's totally fine -- if it works for you? It's very dangerous for bro scientist though ...

 

[HFO3]

If you can't get it done with AAS, HGH, cardio, and a quality nutrition/hydration plan. maybe you're not doing something right, my 2 cents and To each his own...

 

[XYZ]

If you can't get it done with AAS, HGH, cardio, and a quality nutrition/hydration plan. maybe you're not doing something right, my 2 cents and To each his own...

If you add a low dose of DNP to your equation, it speeds up the process. GH is over-rated in my opinion.

 

[XYZ]

Here is my opinion on DNP (not that anyone cares):

The problem I have with guys who keep stating they would never do it and it's for the lazy person. How do you know if you've never tried it? How do you know what it is really like? How do you know the effects it will or won't have? Tell me HOW you know.

The problem is you read something and then all of a sudden, it must be true because it's on "xyz website" and they say it's like this so it must be true. Not all of the guys think this way but a majority of them do.

I am pro DNP. I have seen first hand how it works and know how to use it and when to use it and how long to use it. I have run countless cycles of it and have never had issues, after numerous counts of bloodwork to prove it.

Show me any study you can find that shows using a low dose for 1-2 weeks 3-4 times a year is bad. I'll show you countless studies that were done that will prove you wrong, or put doubt into your claims.

If you don't like it and will never use it, fine that's your opinion, I can respect that. If you're talking out your ass about something you have never used and are telling me how bad it is, BACK IT UP WITH STUDIES, NOT BROLOGY.

Bottom line: Unless you're going to post up studies and first hand experience, kindly STFU because you're just repeating something that you read without any first hand experience.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Define too much?

Everyone has a different tolerance.

EXACTLY my point bro. Everyone has a different tolerance, but the issue is that DNP kills you if you take too much. How much is too much? Like you said that varies person to person. If you take too much DNP chugging water isn't going to stop you from burning up. You only OD on DNP once in your life. There is nothing even a hospital can do in a DNP overdose scenario to save your life. That to me is some scary shit that I want nothing to do with. I'd rather eat an 800 calorie per day diet for a couple weeks while taking some AAS before taking something that might kill me if I don't guess correctly where my limits are.

 

[hypo_glycemic]

I respect your take XYZ but I disagree that (not you per say) but most of the people who take it try and cut corners and are predominantly lazy people! If you can't get shredded in 16 weeks without using DNP then your flat out lazy! I've been competing off and on for 25 years and ALL my colleges say to stay the fuck away? But again, different strokes for different folkes! Out of all the DNP logs I've seen on this board, most all tap out after a short time anyway ...

 

[Pittsburgh63]

I respect your take XYZ but I disagree that (not you per say) but most of the people who take it try and cut corners and are predominantly lazy people! If you can't get shredded in 16 weeks without using DNP then your flat out lazy! I've been competing off and on for 25 years and ALL my colleges say to stay the fuck away? But again, different strokes for different folkes! Out of all the DNP logs I've seen on this board, most all tap out after a short time anyway ...

I couldn't agree more..but I also still view dnp as a poison that I will never put in my body. There are many ways to reach your goals, and in my humble opinion, dnp shouldn't be one of them.

 

[pieguy]

Holy shit people on this board are so uninformed. Jees. You are damn stupid if you're worried about 250mg of crystal DNP, which rips through fat. If you're stupid enough to take 1000g a day, then you deserve to die and AAS isn't for you. Next you're probably going to say insulin is super dangerous and very unreliable or something.

DNP at a low manageable dose is more effective, and has less sides than every other good fat burner, except HGH, which is extremely expensive (and not even that effective). Most tools who take clen don't even know the damage it does to your heart, yet still preach it like gospel.

There is nothing dangerous about DNP, period. If you think it's dangerous, you don't know how to use it and you're an idiot. Anybody who has died from it is also either an idiot, or took way too many things he shouldn't have and paid the price.

The overwhelming thought process I see on this board is DNP is cutting corners. Is it also cutting corners to use a power saw instead of a hand saw on a wood working project? Or are you just being stupid for not using the effective tools available?

Soon as I read DNP is a poison, a little light goes on in my mind that flashes misinformed/ignorant.

 

[hypo_glycemic]

Holy shit people on this board are so uninformed. Jees. You are damn stupid if you're worried about 250mg of crystal DNP, which rips through fat. If you're stupid enough to take 1000g a day, then you deserve to die and AAS isn't for you. Next you're probably going to say insulin is super dangerous and very unreliable or something.

DNP at a low manageable dose is more effective, and has less sides than every other good fat burner, except HGH, which is extremely expensive (and not even that effective). Most tools who take clen don't even know the damage it does to your heart, yet still preach it like gospel.

There is nothing dangerous about DNP, period. If you think it's dangerous, you don't know how to use it and you're an idiot. Anybody who has died from it is also either an idiot, or took way too many things he shouldn't have and paid the price.

The overwhelming thought process I see on this board is DNP is cutting corners. Is it also cutting corners to use a power saw instead of a hand saw on a wood working project? Or are you just being stupid for not using the effective tools available?

I don't know about you guy but calling people" idiots" and "uninformed" is a bit condescending and fucking straight out rude!
I have respect for the people I disagree with--it's called a conversation!!- even if you agree to disagree.

Soon as I read DNP is a poison, a little light goes on in my mind that flashes misinformed/ignorant.

I don't know about you guy but calling people" idiots" and "uninformed" is a bit condescending and fucking straight out rude!
I have respect for the people I disagree with--it's called a conversation!!- even if you agree to disagree.

 

[pieguy]

You disagree cause you have no idea wth you're talking about. Read up about a topic and understand fully before you spread misinformation. There's no point in a conversation when somebody participating is clueless.

Don't even bother adding to a conversation you have done no research about unless you're asking a question.


This demonstrates that you have no understanding of the history of the drug. Well over 100,000 people took DNP for weight loss in prescription and OTC preparations in the 1930's. Someone didn't just come up with "the bright idea to ingest" it. Before this, it was studied clinically by Cutting at Stanford's Department of Medicine and by Tainter at Stanford's Department of Pharmacology.

DNP has properties that make it a versatile chemical. But the fact that it has so many uses has nothing to do with the facts about its safety. If it was used to prevent termites from eating railroad ties, what difference does it make when the human research shows that it's not hepatotoxic? You cannot say that its other uses logically entail that it is not intended for human use. Nature does not dictate what the drug is intended for, humans do. We can appropriate it for human use if we choose to do so, regardless of the other things we use it for. Were you aware that one of the first things that dinitronapthol was used for was a yellow food dye? In the late nineteenth century it was called "Martius Yellow" and was used to color products like pastries and macaroni so that they would appear rich in eggs. It was later found to accelerate cellular respiration and discontinued for this purpose.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

pieguy..... DNP is not safe for human consumption....the stuff its used for today is not even remotely related to human consumption. It is poison and it can kill you if you take too much and individual tolerances can greatly vary. There is nothing false about what I just said. It was only used as a fat burner back in the 30's for a very short time because people were dying from it.... it can cause cataracts, organ failure, blood disorders, skin issues....you can search all over the internet about what it can do for you...death is listed in all of them but websites trying to sell it to you or claim its fame to burning fat. There is no real medical use for it and its not safe to consume. I can't say it doesn't work to burn fat. However I can say without being a liar that its not safe, its not advised by any medical anything to be consumed, and its potentially lethal to ingest.

 

[hypo_glycemic]

You disagree cause you have no idea wth you're talking about. Read up about a topic and understand fully before you spread misinformation. There's no point in a conversation when somebody participating is clueless.

Don't even bother adding to a conversation you have done no research about unless you're asking a question.


This demonstrates that you have no understanding of the history of the drug. Well over 100,000 people took DNP for weight loss in prescription and OTC preparations in the 1930's. Someone didn't just come up with "the bright idea to ingest" it. Before this, it was studied clinically by Cutting at Stanford's Department of Medicine and by Tainter at Stanford's Department of Pharmacology.

DNP has properties that make it a versatile chemical. But the fact that it has so many uses has nothing to do with the facts about its safety. If it was used to prevent termites from eating railroad ties, what difference does it make when the human research shows that it's not hepatotoxic? You cannot say that its other uses logically entail that it is not intended for human use. Nature does not dictate what the drug is intended for, humans do. We can appropriate it for human use if we choose to do so, regardless of the other things we use it for. Were you aware that one of the first things that dinitronapthol was used for was a yellow food dye? In the late nineteenth century it was called "Martius Yellow" and was used to color products like pastries and macaroni so that they would appear rich in eggs. It was later found to accelerate cellular respiration and discontinued for this purpose.

pie guy, I disagree, that doesn't make me clueless at the least -- and nobody has true case-study when you can cut copy and paste like you did..So it's pointless you're right professor..

 

[HFO3]

what is dnp - Google Search

We all have arbitrary lines in the sand box of life, just because yours is in a different place than someone else's doesn't make the other guy a fool or stupid.

 

[Ironman2001]

Simply put,every chemical or compound is dangerous if not used properly and the needed precautions taken when using them. I respect everyones opinion whether i agree or disagree . If you feel dnp is not safe,dont use it. Freewill my friends. This topic always gets ugly but we must respect eachother and their opinions as long as they are presented in a tactful manner that is.

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