You may have a point with CP, but I don't think the percentage would have been as high as 90% maybe 50%. Barkley on the other hand has no business considering any political office.
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You may have a point with CP, but I don't think the percentage would have been as high as 90% maybe 50%. Barkley on the other hand has no business considering any political office.
Blacks were going for Obama over Hillary at about 9 to 1.
The ONLY explanation is racism. If his name was Barry O'Brien and he was Irish I don't think he'd be getting that kind of support. Don't kid yourself.
The ONLY explanation is racism. If his name was Barry O'Brien and he was Irish I don't think he'd be getting that kind of support. Don't kid yourself.
I agree. I can't imagine him as a politician.
I think you are short changing that percentage with colin powell. Blacks will vote for a black regardless of his politics. I would love to see statistics of black voters for a black candidate regardless of party for congress, senate, and governorships.
I would love to see those stats as well.
Would you vote for Hillary had she won the nomination... wait that doesn't matter. Racism has caused some type of bemusement in you. Racism and this election has two very certain things in common, either you are for Obama or McCain or either you believe racism exist or you don't regardless of the reasoning.
it's easier to vote based on skin color rather than use that thing called a brain...and quite frankly nothing surprises me anymore...I'm waiting for Obama to come out with a music video wearing gold chains pimpin in a escalade just to get those extra "gangsta" votes...
Of course a certain amount of racism is playing in this national discussion. to what extent no one can speak for certain. We should recognize that this is an indicator that is nearly impossible to monitor.
I will say this though. anytime someone attempts to discuss a negative of obama and the racism card is played. non-racist white men want to commit murder.
Do you feel the black turnout will be higher this election than in elections past? How do you interpret this?
I think a large majority of people here would vote for him.
I would have as well, but the difference is for myself it would have nothing to do with his skin color. I respect the man, and agree with his politics. Blacks will vote for obama at an unbelievable rate. I fell that blacks would also vote for powell at this same rate even though politically they are very different men.
I do.
I agree. Black turnout will be higher. I think it is safe to say that this is solely because obama is black. nothing to do with politics, just he has the same skin color so they will vote for him. probably will get 90% plus of the black vote. can you imagine if 90% of whites voted for McCain this election?
Anyone who suggests that the majority of black voters are voting on anything other than skin color are ignorant. Based solely on the black turnout you'll see. The turnout estimates for blacks are crazy.
One good thing though, most of these black voters have never stepped inside or even have a clue where their voting precincts are. Maybe they'll be so confused they'll give up and go home to a 40.
One good thing though, most of these black voters have never stepped inside or even have a clue where their voting precincts are. Maybe they'll be so confused they'll give up and go home to a 40.
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Too bad the blacks cant use computers, I would like to hear what they have to say.
Black folk won't show up to the polls, nor will underclass whites after the flyers past out around the country telling them they will be picked up for outstanding warrants.....
October 9, 2008
Obamaâ??????s Race May Be as Much a Plus as a Minus
Not much different from the impact of McCainâ??????s race
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- While 6% of voters say they are less likely to vote for Barack Obama because of his race, 9% say they are more likely to vote for him, making the impact of his race a neutral to slightly positive factor when all voters' self-reported attitudes are taken into account.
At the same time, 6% of voters say John McCain's race will make them less likely to vote for him, with 7% saying it makes them more likely to vote for him, leading to the same basic conclusion: McCain's race, like Obama's, is on balance neither a plus nor a minus.
These conclusions are based on eight dimensions potentially affecting the vote for both candidates. The dimensions were included in Gallup's Oct. 3-5 poll, and analyzed overall by Gallup's Jeff Jones.
One of the dimensions tested for each candidate was "his race." More specifically, as was true for each of the other seven dimensions, respondents were asked to indicate whether each candidate's race made them more likely, or less likely, to vote for him for president. The data are presented in the charts here.
Eighty-five percent of voters say Obama's race makes no difference, and 87% say McCain's race makes no difference. This makes race the single dimension out of the eight tested that is the least likely to have an impact on the vote.
As noted above, the self-reported impact of race for both Obama and McCain is mixed, with about as many respondents saying race will make them more likely to vote for each candidate as say race will make them less likely to vote for each.
The potential impact of Obama's race on the election has been the more scrutinized this year. These data, taken at face value, show that if anything, his race could be a net plus, in the sense that it makes slightly more voters want to vote for him than not want to vote for him.
There is, as expected, a difference by the race of the respondent in answers to this question.
Among nonwhites in the sample, there is a net difference of 11 percentage points in Obama's favor in terms of the likelihood to vote for him because of his race. Among non-Hispanic whites in the sample, there is a slight net negative for Obama of -1 point.
The impact of McCain's race among nonwhites, on the other hand, is -8 points. Among whites it is +4.
Implications
Much has been written about the impact of race in this year's election, a not surprising fact given that Obama is the first black major-party candidate in U.S. presidential history to gain his party's nomination.
The data analyzed here -- based on voters' self-reports -- show that the impact of Obama's and McCain's races appears to cut both ways. Enough voters, particularly nonwhites, say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of his race to offset the small percentage who say they are less likely to vote for him because of his race. And the same is true in reverse for McCain: the impact of nonwhites' saying his race is a negative is offset by those who say it is a positive.
More specifically, to review perhaps the most important finding in these data, 7% of white voters say Obama's race makes them less likely to vote for him. But 6% of white voters say Obama's race makes them more likely to vote for him. And among nonwhite voters, Obama's race is a significant net plus.
It is important to note that these data are based on self-reports of survey respondents, and may not reflect the unconscious impact of race and/or the willingness of respondents to admit that the race of a candidate affects their voting behavior. But the racial data discussed here were collected in a grid of eight different dimensions, which may have had the impact of downplaying any particular significance to race as a concept that respondents focused on.
In the final reality, it may be impossible to tell exactly what impact the fact that Obama is black and McCain white may have on the outcome of the Nov. 4 election. These results suggest that the large majority of American voters at this point say neither man's race will be a factor in their vote decision. Certainly it's true that a small percentage of white voters say Obama's race will be a negative to them, and a small percentage of nonwhite voters say McCain's race will be a negative. These results are offset by the fact that each man's race is a plus to other voters. Perhaps more importantly, in the context of other candidate dimensions tested in the recent research, race is actually the least important factor tested.
Survey Methods
Results are based on telephone interviews with 926 registered voters, aged 18 and older, conducted Oct. 3-5, 2008. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ??±4 percentage points.
Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).
In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
Obamaâ??????s Race May Be as Much a Plus as a Minus
Not much different from the impact of McCainâ??????s race
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- While 6% of voters say they are less likely to vote for Barack Obama because of his race, 9% say they are more likely to vote for him, making the impact of his race a neutral to slightly positive factor when all voters' self-reported attitudes are taken into account.
At the same time, 6% of voters say John McCain's race will make them less likely to vote for him, with 7% saying it makes them more likely to vote for him, leading to the same basic conclusion: McCain's race, like Obama's, is on balance neither a plus nor a minus.
These conclusions are based on eight dimensions potentially affecting the vote for both candidates. The dimensions were included in Gallup's Oct. 3-5 poll, and analyzed overall by Gallup's Jeff Jones.
One of the dimensions tested for each candidate was "his race." More specifically, as was true for each of the other seven dimensions, respondents were asked to indicate whether each candidate's race made them more likely, or less likely, to vote for him for president. The data are presented in the charts here.
Eighty-five percent of voters say Obama's race makes no difference, and 87% say McCain's race makes no difference. This makes race the single dimension out of the eight tested that is the least likely to have an impact on the vote.
As noted above, the self-reported impact of race for both Obama and McCain is mixed, with about as many respondents saying race will make them more likely to vote for each candidate as say race will make them less likely to vote for each.
The potential impact of Obama's race on the election has been the more scrutinized this year. These data, taken at face value, show that if anything, his race could be a net plus, in the sense that it makes slightly more voters want to vote for him than not want to vote for him.
There is, as expected, a difference by the race of the respondent in answers to this question.
Among nonwhites in the sample, there is a net difference of 11 percentage points in Obama's favor in terms of the likelihood to vote for him because of his race. Among non-Hispanic whites in the sample, there is a slight net negative for Obama of -1 point.
The impact of McCain's race among nonwhites, on the other hand, is -8 points. Among whites it is +4.
Implications
Much has been written about the impact of race in this year's election, a not surprising fact given that Obama is the first black major-party candidate in U.S. presidential history to gain his party's nomination.
The data analyzed here -- based on voters' self-reports -- show that the impact of Obama's and McCain's races appears to cut both ways. Enough voters, particularly nonwhites, say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of his race to offset the small percentage who say they are less likely to vote for him because of his race. And the same is true in reverse for McCain: the impact of nonwhites' saying his race is a negative is offset by those who say it is a positive.
More specifically, to review perhaps the most important finding in these data, 7% of white voters say Obama's race makes them less likely to vote for him. But 6% of white voters say Obama's race makes them more likely to vote for him. And among nonwhite voters, Obama's race is a significant net plus.
It is important to note that these data are based on self-reports of survey respondents, and may not reflect the unconscious impact of race and/or the willingness of respondents to admit that the race of a candidate affects their voting behavior. But the racial data discussed here were collected in a grid of eight different dimensions, which may have had the impact of downplaying any particular significance to race as a concept that respondents focused on.
In the final reality, it may be impossible to tell exactly what impact the fact that Obama is black and McCain white may have on the outcome of the Nov. 4 election. These results suggest that the large majority of American voters at this point say neither man's race will be a factor in their vote decision. Certainly it's true that a small percentage of white voters say Obama's race will be a negative to them, and a small percentage of nonwhite voters say McCain's race will be a negative. These results are offset by the fact that each man's race is a plus to other voters. Perhaps more importantly, in the context of other candidate dimensions tested in the recent research, race is actually the least important factor tested.
Survey Methods
Results are based on telephone interviews with 926 registered voters, aged 18 and older, conducted Oct. 3-5, 2008. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ??±4 percentage points.
Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).
In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
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Bingo.
Most people are afraid of letting people know that they're racist. Even if it's in an anonymous poll. They're afraid that they'll be fired from work or other such crap.
I think it was minO that posted the piece about the "Bradley Affect". Pretty much, people will say that they're willing to vote for a black, but when the time comes, they won't pull the lever for him. Not that they'll vote for the other side, they just won't vote.
They polled honest people.
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For your question to me to be valid, your statistic of 95% of blacks voting Democrat has to be accurate. Please provide some sort of proof of this so I can honestly answer your question.
There will be a democratic who hands out forms and helps them to get to the polls somehow... No one is losing those easily swayed puppet votes
Of course. more blacks have chosen to vote this election than ever before. I don't think it's racial its normal. No doubt the majority of blacks have no idea of what Obama's policies are but many have no idea what McCain's policies are. In the black community this is nothing more than hype after this is over with it will all die down. I do beleive that Obama won his nomination because of the white vote not the black. I think he will win the presidentail election because of the surge of balck voters that have never voted before.
The 95% I referenced was just the number you put out, but regardless if you want to beleive it or not blacks have historically voted democrat at a high percentage.
What does this have to do with the fact that blacks were voting for Obama 9 to 1 over Hillary, a candidate with virtually the same policies, although not like any of them actually knew the policies anyway.
Black people voted for Obama over Hillary because he looks black and she looks white. Period. Denying this is a fantasy.
Obama is the worst candidate in the history of the country. He attended a viciously racist and anti-American church for 20 years, was "friendly" with a terrorist who attacked America and got off on a technicality and to this day says he isn't sorry and wishes he'd done more. He's received more money from Fannie Mae than any other Senator in the past Decade besides Christopher Dodd (and he's only been there for less than 1 term). He had former Fannie execs advising and working in his campaign, both of which cooked the books and made millions off it. Either 50% of the American population are fools, or 50% are racist blacks and white-guilt stricken "ANGLO-AMERICANS" or both.
Are you sure about this?
How about Mondale and Dewey?
Interesting, above.
You noted 1 issue - only 1 issue - the Fannie donations.
The rest.....? Nothing but spin.
It's the economy, folks.
Brogers, what is your education level?
Disclaimer: i am a bit drunk....
Oh, come on Smoothy
You can't just say something like the Bill Ayers fiasco is 'not an issue' while the whole "Sarah Palin Abused Her Power' headline bullshit is going on.
How the hell is that important?
Answer: it isn't... it's simply a distraction play to take the eye off of Obama... which has been the S.O.P. since this abortion of an election began.
Barack Obama has absolutely no leadership qualifications, yet many very strong and direct links to some individuals that are very unpalatable to an intelligent individual.
Bill Ayers.... is huge....
IF Obama would have been honest in the beginning, maybe not so big, but he wasn't, now was he? Ayers was a guy that lived in his neighborhood, then he was a guy he met a couple times, then he was something else.
All bullshit.
Ayers and Obama worked together for SEVEN YEARS, Ayers hosted the cocktail party in his own home for Barack when he bagan his poiltical career....not to mention the 'oh so coincidental' tie in with both respective wives... so, from day one Obama has LIED about Ayers.
Reverend Wright, well, let's be real... if you sit back and are honest with yourself... is also incredibly huge. There is no sane argument that a person can blindly be a member of a group that preaches that kind of bigotry and hatred for 20 minutes let alone 20 years.
If.... IF the line we've all been fed that he didn't know and wouldn't have agreed with Wright's teachings is to be believed, then that automatically disqualifies Mr. Obama from any decision making role because he's a frikkin moron.
I can't remember the name of his 'mentor' that was an admitted communist right now... but at this point, does it really matter?
You can go on beating your drum for Obama.... you're just another in a long line of fools.
Now, don't get me wrong... McCain's not much better.
The simple fact is this, regrdless of who gets elected, we are all fukked.
The big difference is between the devil we know and the devil we don't.
We all know who McCain is.... but honestly, who the fukk is Barack Obama?
Everything we supposedly know about him is essentially a well fabricated lie, but since he's "so articulate" and want's "change" he's being championed by hollywood (big surprise there, it's a town full of motherfukkers who make a living pretending to be something that they're not) and ignorant ass clowns.
This bothers the shit out of me because from reading your posts for the last couple years, it's obvious that you are not stupid. I rarely agree with your opinion on things, but you're not a stupid man, yet here you are beating your drum for Obama. I just do not understand it.
Pretty much every idea that I've heard from Obama will literally cripple this country... his health care plan? Capital Gains Tax? come on! That's socialism 101. How the hell can there be a capitalist society (which is what this country i sbased upon) with any form of universal healthcare? or universal anything for that matter?
Answer: You Can't.
period
Wake up people.
this isn't fukking American Idol.
Oh, come on Smoothy
You can't just say something like the Bill Ayers fiasco is 'not an issue' while the whole "Sarah Palin Abused Her Power' headline bullshit is going on.
How the hell is that important?
Answer: it isn't... it's simply a distraction play to take the eye off of Obama... which has been the S.O.P. since this abortion of an election began.
Barack Obama has absolutely no leadership qualifications, yet many very strong and direct links to some individuals that are very unpalatable to an intelligent individual.
Bill Ayers.... is huge....
IF Obama would have been honest in the beginning, maybe not so big, but he wasn't, now was he? Ayers was a guy that lived in his neighborhood, then he was a guy he met a couple times, then he was something else.
All bullshit.
Ayers and Obama worked together for SEVEN YEARS, Ayers hosted the cocktail party in his own home for Barack when he bagan his poiltical career....not to mention the 'oh so coincidental' tie in with both respective wives... so, from day one Obama has LIED about Ayers.
Reverend Wright, well, let's be real... if you sit back and are honest with yourself... is also incredibly huge. There is no sane argument that a person can blindly be a member of a group that preaches that kind of bigotry and hatred for 20 minutes let alone 20 years.
If.... IF the line we've all been fed that he didn't know and wouldn't have agreed with Wright's teachings is to be believed, then that automatically disqualifies Mr. Obama from any decision making role because he's a frikkin moron.
I can't remember the name of his 'mentor' that was an admitted communist right now... but at this point, does it really matter?
You can go on beating your drum for Obama.... you're just another in a long line of fools.
Now, don't get me wrong... McCain's not much better.
The simple fact is this, regrdless of who gets elected, we are all fukked.
The big difference is between the devil we know and the devil we don't.
We all know who McCain is.... but honestly, who the fukk is Barack Obama?
Everything we supposedly know about him is essentially a well fabricated lie, but since he's "so articulate" and want's "change" he's being championed by hollywood (big surprise there, it's a town full of motherfukkers who make a living pretending to be something that they're not) and ignorant ass clowns.
This bothers the shit out of me because from reading your posts for the last couple years, it's obvious that you are not stupid. I rarely agree with your opinion on things, but you're not a stupid man, yet here you are beating your drum for Obama. I just do not understand it.
Pretty much every idea that I've heard from Obama will literally cripple this country... his health care plan? Capital Gains Tax? come on! That's socialism 101. How the hell can there be a capitalist society (which is what this country i sbased upon) with any form of universal healthcare? or universal anything for that matter?
Answer: You Can't.
period
Wake up people.
this isn't fukking American Idol.
Are you sure about this?
How about Mondale and Dewey?
Interesting, above.
You noted 1 issue - only 1 issue - the Fannie donations.
The rest.....? Nothing but spin.
It's the economy, folks.
Brogers, what is your education level?
Masters
Although someone with a high school diploma could probably see the point I was making had to do with Obama being propped up because of his race. Anyone with that kind of history wouldn't even get to the primary level, much less be one of the main party's candidate. It isn't spin either, its 100% truth.
What exactly is your education level? Do you test at a high school reading level? I think my cousin in elementary school could even grasp what I just said.
Don't forget "cutting taxes for 95% of people." He doesn't let reality get in the way of his proposals. Only about 65-70% of people pay income tax. Good luck cutting the other 25-30% of people's taxes.
What a scam.
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I don't think the conservatives have anything to worry about. The black voter turnout will be higher than usual, but still pretty low. Just look at that stupid P Diddy "vote or die" campaign for the last election. P diddy and half the celebrities like Paris Hilton weren't even registered to vote, it's a joke.
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