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Do you deadlift more than you squat?

Yep I find it much nicer to hold the bar low on the back but its hard for me to stretch like that :( It helps my form and my reps though, but I can't get it very far back there.
 
gopro said:
I think if its hypertrophy that you are after you should squat like a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. Lunges, squats, and leg extensions alone can build huge quads, so don't sweat it.

Full squats will not give everyone a lower back problem, but if you do them I would hold the bar low on the traps and make a very conscious effort to keep your entire core tight during the entire lift. Done carelessly, all squats can injure the lower back.

Thanks for the advice. I have pretty good form on my full squats usually. I may try PL style at some point when I give a PL routine a try, but I'll stick to BB style for the time being.
 
CowPimp said:
Thanks for the advice. I have pretty good form on my full squats usually. I may try PL style at some point when I give a PL routine a try, but I'll stick to BB style for the time being.

There is nothing wrong with this. I worked out with powerlifters a few times (in 8 week cycles) during my lifting career. Its a good switch for mind and body, and usually ends up pushing some of your bodybuilding lifts up further.
 
gopro said:
There is nothing wrong with this. I worked out with powerlifters a few times (in 8 week cycles) during my lifting career. Its a good switch for mind and body, and usually ends up pushing some of your bodybuilding lifts up further.

Actually, I just had a revelation. I'm doing your P-RR-S routine currently. I have decided that after this cycle is over in a couple of weeks I am going to do my big 3 movements like powerlifters during power week and like a bodybuilder during rep range and shock weeks. Hopefully I will get the best of both worlds this way. Of course, I still plan on trying a PL routine eventually, but I thought this would be a decent middle ground for the time being.
 
Who at Westside? I obviously look up to all those guys and I email with them often. (not that we're friends but they're always so quick and friendly to answer or shoot the shit)
 
CowPimp said:
Actually, I just had a revelation. I'm doing your P-RR-S routine currently. I have decided that after this cycle is over in a couple of weeks I am going to do my big 3 movements like powerlifters during power week and like a bodybuilder during rep range and shock weeks. Hopefully I will get the best of both worlds this way. Of course, I still plan on trying a PL routine eventually, but I thought this would be a decent middle ground for the time being.

Sounds very good! :thumb:
 
gopro said:
My deadlift outgrew my squats rather quickly when I used to practice both. However, I have not squatted in about 4 years and only do rack deads these days.

What's the rack deadlift?
 
Deadlifting in a power rack with the bar just below the knees, removing the legs from the movement.
 
ok this will be done for the back and it won't be stiff leg?
 
In a rack dead you dont move your legs.
 
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I think that would depend where you started the pull from. If I stand 6'4 and only elevate the plates 6", I still have to use my legs.
 
Saturday Fever said:
I think that would depend where you started the pull from. If I stand 6'4 and only elevate the plates 6", I still have to use my legs.


True, plus you can easily vary the pull level at each workout and vary how much or little knee bend comes into play.
 
Saturday Fever said:
I think that would depend where you started the pull from. If I stand 6'4 and only elevate the plates 6", I still have to use my legs.

Well thats why you set up the pins appropriately, I set them probably 4 inches below my knees and put my legs wide enough that I am not moving my knees.
 
Man you must have your leg very wide open. Because how can you have the bar below the knee and get it pass the knee as you lift without unbending the knee.

So do you unbend the knee just a little bit so the bar pass the knee and keep the knee flexed at the same position all the way up as you lift?
 
If you're pulling your shoulders back and pushing your hips forward, you will generally clear your knees without trouble.

Though I have torn skin off my shins many times with these. :)
 
Rack Deads - Power Rack vs Smith Machine.

Is the power rack preferable to the Smth machine when doing rack deads?
 
QUOTE: I have decided that after this cycle is over in a couple of weeks I am going to do my big 3 movements like powerlifters during power week and like a bodybuilder during rep range and shock weeks.

This is exactly what I do, dude. I do movements like deads, cleans, snatches etc. on power week, and the more isolating movements on rr and s week. Honestly I try and make all my movements as complex as possible though. I actually made a lot of alterations to the plan (ie concentration curls, kickbacks, one arm shoulder press etc.) because I've never been a fan of those movements

Peace.
 
Downtown Guy said:
Is the power rack preferable to the Smth machine when doing rack deads?

Absolutely.
 
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