is there anything bad with drinking such a drink as coffee before working out??? just wondering cause i want to drink it cause i keep falling a sleep right now at the library when i am trying to study .. and i am going to work out in 1 hour.... for future reference i guess only..
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w8lifter
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Caffeine is a stimulant that will give you extra energy, and it is also glycogen-sparing. No harm in taking it before a workout.
I have read that drinking coffee before a workout can actually help your performance. Lately, I have been having a cup or two before my saturday legs workout. I just make sure I drink plenty of water during the workout becuase coffee can dehydrate you.
i drink coffee all the time
I drink it like a half hour before I hit the gym...
Especially when I do legs...
A good combo is drink your coffee get psyched and go full steam ahead....Tear the weights apart with no remorse....
I drink it like a half hour before I hit the gym...
Especially when I do legs...
A good combo is drink your coffee get psyched and go full steam ahead....Tear the weights apart with no remorse....
Coffee is a good stimulant like all fat burners. Just be careful and don't go overboard with sugar!!!
It might even work better in some cases!!!
King Penguin
Elite Member
Originally posted by Dero
Coffee is even good before a ride(MTB)that extra zipppppp,for when you do climbs!!!
Must remember COFFEE before a ride
w8lifter
Elite Member
Can you provide some research for that?
It is recommended to drink lots of water while on the creatine.
[From the Training-Nutrition faq: Powder form is preferred over capsules.
Most users recommend a loading phase when first starting with CM. For 5 to 7 days, take a teaspoon (approx. 5 grams) 5 times per day. After that go
on maintenance at 5 grams twice per day.]
Note: it is discouraged to use caffeine while on creatine; while creatine makes your muscles hold water, caffeine will do the opposite, thereby reducing the effects of
the creatine intake.
Don't mix creatine with citrus juice. Orange, grapefruit, cranberry, in fact, most fruit juices have been most recently found to neutralize the activity of creatine
monohydrate. The reason is the waste product creatinine develops. A lot of you put creatine on your tongue and drink it down with grapefruit juice. If you have
taken creatine this way in the past, stop it now! You are not getting creatine, you're getting waste product.
Do mix creatine monohydrate with warm water--in a glass. This is the only way to ensure you're getting the full benefits of creatine in its dry form. Creatine does not
have to dissolve to be effective.
Do be sure to drink a full eight ounce glass of good water 8 times a day. Creatine pulls water from other parts of the body to perform its work in cell volumization of
the muscle. This is what makes the muscle larger and firmer. Replenish your H2O!
For more on this, you can go to;
http://bodybuilding.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.bla.net/opul/crfaq.htm
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W8-2, that info is outdated.
Caffiene has no ill-effects on creatine. There has only been one study to indicate that caffiene hinders the loading phase but that was done in 1996 under crappy conditions and basically, it still showed that the PCr levels in the muscle tissue increased either way.
Since then it has been shown that the loading phase itself is not necessary.
Caffiene does work as a diuretic, but you can stave off these effects by drinking sufficient water which as an athlete you should already be aware of and already be implementing.
The whole jive about not drinking with citrus juices baffles me too. The stomach has a high acidity also so whether you drink it with water or citrus juice it makes little to no difference.
Caffiene has no ill-effects on creatine. There has only been one study to indicate that caffiene hinders the loading phase but that was done in 1996 under crappy conditions and basically, it still showed that the PCr levels in the muscle tissue increased either way.
Since then it has been shown that the loading phase itself is not necessary.
Caffiene does work as a diuretic, but you can stave off these effects by drinking sufficient water which as an athlete you should already be aware of and already be implementing.
The whole jive about not drinking with citrus juices baffles me too. The stomach has a high acidity also so whether you drink it with water or citrus juice it makes little to no difference.
w8lifter
Elite Member
Also, the original study was done w/ 1000mg of caffeine, so I think a couple of cups of java in the a.m. aren't gonna do a thing as far as the creatine is concerned.
Hi CD
Hi CD
Thanks for the input. I used to drink it in my coffee before I trained and stopped because of the study. I don't load, because I don't believe it is necessary I do drink a ton of water, and believe it or not I have better results when I mix my creatine with juice from a kids juice box...go figure.
Originally posted by w8lifter
Also, the original study was done w/ 1000mg of caffeine, so I think a couple of cups of java in the a.m. aren't gonna do a thing as far as the creatine is concerned.
Hi CD
I used to put my CM Powder in my coffee 1hr before I trained. Which is why I was pi$$ed when I read that information... I thought I was wasting my CM.
Hey W8-2, there are two types of creatine receptors called 'creatine acceptors' [i think they're called that at least] anyway, one is a 'normal' receptor, the other is the 'insulin-receptor'.
Over time the 'normal' one gradually becomes 'ulled' to the creatine and so less creatine can be taken up that way. This is why you sometimes hear people saying that you need to cycle off etc... the insulin receptor neer downregulates and creatine is always accepted via this channel. Albeit, not as much will get through, but in truth you don't actually have to cycle off creatine at all.
And you're right about not loading - muscles already contain 'X' amount of creatine as it is, and it is found in beef too. the loading phase was invented by supp companies in the hope that you'd use your supply up quicker and buy more sooner.
thought you'd be interested...
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Hey W8-2, there are two types of creatine receptors called 'creatine acceptors' [i think they're called that at least] anyway, one is a 'normal' receptor, the other is the 'insulin-receptor'.
Over time the 'normal' one gradually becomes 'ulled' to the creatine and so less creatine can be taken up that way. This is why you sometimes hear people saying that you need to cycle off etc... the insulin receptor neer downregulates and creatine is always accepted via this channel. Albeit, not as much will get through, but in truth you don't actually have to cycle off creatine at all.
And you're right about not loading - muscles already contain 'X' amount of creatine as it is, and it is found in beef too. the loading phase was invented by supp companies in the hope that you'd use your supply up quicker and buy more sooner.
thought you'd be interested...
Thanks man, that's good info. Hey I just noticed you are in the UK. I should be in the Cambridgeshire area in March.
senopole
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I don't see a problem with drinking some before you work out, but you might want to drink more water while lifting, so that you don't get too dehydrated. Also, I know that its a small thing, but coffee is a stimulant, and getting in the habit of drinking it a lot isn't exactly great for muscles that are trying to recover. Being well hydrated is essential to rebuilding and maintaining good muscle.
yes your muscles contain creatine already and yes beef also contains creatine, but that doesn't make for a good arguement against the loading process.
If you load you will feel the creatine work in a shorter period of time then you will if you don't load. on the last part I agree you will use your supply up faster and have to buy more sooner but at least your "supply" will work for you in a shorter period time.
ah.......really..i think you might be mistaken by saying this.......just my humble opinion thoughOriginally posted by arbntmare
man u guys turn a question inside out hehe.. i don't use creatine nor will ever will i don't think.. hasnt' been enough study on it for me to let me drink it..
diezel
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actually in the january issue of muscle mag they discuss the effects of caffeine and creatine saying that a new study actually indicates that they do infact cancel each other out...and they used about 200mg off caffeine.
