How do these compounds stack up to the other AI's in regards to potency and effectiveness?.....ex: would you use any of these compounds during a heavy cycle of test,deca and dbol?......or are they no where near the strength/effectiveness of proviron,nolva,armid,aromasin etc.....also, in such a cycle (10 weeks) where would it be recomended to put the dbol in? say week 4; when the test and deca have kicked in? or right at the begining? or maybe at the end of the cycle, last 4 weeks?.........thanks, sorry for lack of info but can add more if needed.....thanks.....
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E-control, Erase and Formorone?
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Never heard of econtrol or erase. Formeron is legit and works for sure. No smoking mirrors and empty promises. u will have a very hard time finding an OTC AI better then Formeron. I prefer Formeron to aromosin because I know what I'm buying is what I get. Lots of bunk research chems out there as well as pharm grade for that matter.
I'd run the dbol at the end. Finish strong!
I'd run the dbol at the end. Finish strong!
Hate4TheWeak
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Form erase and 6oxo in that order for potency . I like E-contol because while it's not a very strong AI it is VERY good at boosting test. I'm running it as my AI now and unless you have major estro related sides when on it is more than enough. I love it...easy on the joints and more mild on the lipid but prob better for pct if like I said you are prone to estro related side effects.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
brundel
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FOrmeron is very similar to aromasin as far as AI strength is concerned.
Its also a suicidal AI like aromasin which makes it superior to arimidex and other non suicidal AI's.
Keep in mind FOrmestane, the primary ingredient in formeron was used as a breast cancer medication prior to aromasin.
Formeron is Formestane
Aromasin is Exemestane
THe similar name is not a coincidence.
Unlike exemestane, formestane is also a prohormone and a mild 5-ar inhibitor thus making it the champ between the two.
Its also a suicidal AI like aromasin which makes it superior to arimidex and other non suicidal AI's.
Keep in mind FOrmestane, the primary ingredient in formeron was used as a breast cancer medication prior to aromasin.
Formeron is Formestane
Aromasin is Exemestane
THe similar name is not a coincidence.
Unlike exemestane, formestane is also a prohormone and a mild 5-ar inhibitor thus making it the champ between the two.
i disagree with brundel formeron is weaker than real exemestane.i like and use formeron have several bottles but when my nips get to hurting i can take 25 mg a day of exemestane and they stop hurting then i go back to the formeron the best thing about formeron which makes it my fav ai is you know what you are geting.and as far as eraze is a good otc ai i would not run it alone unless i was running a low dose of gear.but i have stacked eraze,formeron and maybe like 25mg a week of exemestane and get super dry.and i all so like to use eraze during pct along with all my other non otc pct stuff helps a lot.
brundel
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Formestane inhibits 91% compared to 97 I think for aromasin.
Other considerations for formestane=
Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity.
Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate)
Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration.
Other considerations for formestane=
Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity.
Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate)
Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration.
Honestly the labs I have seen on Formeron were not that great. Its a great product on paper but the labs I have seen make it look like there is a carrier problem with real world application.
Formeron just does not seem to perform like Formestane.
Formeron just does not seem to perform like Formestane.
i agree when i use formeron only my nips get real sore then when i add exemestane they stop hurting.i usaually will not use just one. i will use sevral diffrent ai like erase, formeron and exemestane just in case one is not working i am covered works well for me. formastanzol allso works but erase is the best of the otc stuff then formeron.but exemestane is the best of all hands douwn.in the real world.
Its hard to trust the Chinese powder suppliers. They will send the products with COA's claiming its legit but without third party mass spec its a gamble knowing if the powders are really legit. I have seen some sup companies over the years get screwed by the Chinese because they didn't mass spec their powders themselves. This makes dosing an untested product next to impossible since the sup company really has no idea on the purity of the main compounds.
Right now IML's is having a product assembled and the guys testing it discovered one compound needs to be redone. Its always wise to test powders independently even if its for an OTC because the Chinese cannot be trusted.
and for the record i am not saying formeron is not good it is i have bought with my money 4 bottles.i just want people to know that it is not real real stroung and that it is not the only otc ai that works ok.and for me using it or erase along with exemstane work to keep you really dry.but any of these otc with high doses of test and my nips get real sore.but with a low dose 500mg aw week or lower and erase or formeron will work.and heavy i would love to try some of iml otc ai stuff when it comes out can not have to many good otc ai.
