EOD with long esters

[spartan1]

Does anyone agree with me regarding taking long esters EOD? The reason I am asking is they usually peak in approx. 3-4 days after injection. So if someone is doing lets say Test Cyp and EQ and they are doinf their pins on Monday and Thursday then they are going to peak on Thursday from the Monday pin and Sunday from the Thursday pin. So only 2 days out of the week will you be at the peak level from you injection. So if you were to go EOD MWFS then you would peak Thursday, Sat. Mon. and Wednes. So for the first wk you would peak 4 times per wk or EOD, then the second wk it would be closer to ED if you stick to the EOD pinning. Just looking for some thoughts on this. It just seems like I feel the best and have the best workouts 3-4 days after my pin and then it can be hit or miss in between.

P.S. I know most say 2 times per wk is good but just looking for a different view.

 

[WantsWidth]

i usually go 2 times a week, as my dose isn't high enough where i need to do more than that (meaning volume of mls per week)

 

[GSracer]

Does anyone agree with me regarding taking long esters EOD? The reason I am asking is they usually peak in approx. 3-4 days after injection. So if someone is doing lets say Test Cyp and EQ and they are doinf their pins on Monday and Thursday then they are going to peak on Thursday from the Monday pin and Sunday from the Thursday pin. So only 2 days out of the week will you be at the peak level from you injection. So if you were to go EOD MWFS then you would peak Thursday, Sat. Mon. and Wednes. So for the first wk you would peak 4 times per wk or EOD, then the second wk it would be closer to ED if you stick to the EOD pinning. Just looking for some thoughts on this. It just seems like I feel the best and have the best workouts 3-4 days after my pin and then it can be hit or miss in between.

P.S. I know most say 2 times per wk is good but just looking for a different view.

I absolutely agree with this. I have found that 3x per week with test e or test c works the best for me. Everyone's different, but I seemed to have more energy and strength with 3x per week rather than 2x.

 

[tinyshrek]

I think it's about longevity. When I cut eod, when I bulk 2 x a week. You get way to burnt out out pinning eod all the time.

 

[spartan1]

I think it's about longevity. When I cut eod, when I bulk 2 x a week. You get way to burnt out out pinning eod all the time.

Yes, I agree with you on the burn out factor but I am in the last 6 weeks of a 20 wk run and was just trying to dial it up a bit. Just to see if it would be more effective. I just seems like 2 peaks per wk is not cutting it. Maybe I should just increase my bi-weekly dose to see if that helps. That's another option, but I think right now I am going to try the EOD to see whats up. I rotate Quads Delts and glutes so I have plenty of recovery time between injections, plus with the long esters there is no pip, or very little.

 

[justhav2p]

but iis it reaally worth having to stab yourself an extra day?

I don't think so....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

[bigbenj]

Yes, I agree with you on the burn out factor but I am in the last 6 weeks of a 20 wk run and was just trying to dial it up a bit. Just to see if it would be more effective. I just seems like 2 peaks per wk is not cutting it. Maybe I should just increase my bi-weekly dose to see if that helps. That's another option, but I think right now I am going to try the EOD to see whats up. I rotate Quads Delts and glutes so I have plenty of recovery time between injections, plus with the long esters there is no pip, or very little.

Are you still doing the same amount per week, just in split into smaller, more frequent doses?

 

[XYZ]

More often just leads to more stable blood levels, but not by much. I don't think it really matters either way.

I used to use 100mg primo ED and then 350mg twice a week, I didn't notice anything different.

 

[FordFan]

Pinning long esters eod kinda defeats the purpose. But if it works for you, go with it.

 

[spartan1]

This is good feedback. After looking over the responses I think I am just going to increase the dosage and "stick" with Monday Thursday schedule. I think all that I need is a graduated dose because it seems like I have plateaued. I have been eating more and more and the workouts are GTG and the rest recovery is in line.

 

[blergs.]

Not a good idea
a waste of chance.
I mean your gonna add UNNEEDED scar tissue and raise your chance of infections.

so it hits it speek in 2-3 days. big deal. then it tapers off the rest of week. 1-2X a week is nuff for long esters PERIOD! unless your pinning sooo much damin oil you just need to.

I have done both various times and have found not much diffrence from 1X a week or 2X a week and DEFF nothing from eod.
I rec 2X a week.

even omnadren (which I love) ill pin 2X a week and have nice results and no noticed sides. (i know its a blend but thought id mention it)

 

[spartan1]

Got it 2 times per wk it is. I think I just need to increase a bit. Because I can feel it on the days that it peaks and I like the way it feels but then it diminishes I know it is still there obviously, but maybe my dose is just not high enough. I am not going to increase it a lot maybe 250 or a little more per wk.

 

[blergs.]

Got it 2 times per wk it is. I think I just need to increase a bit. Because I can feel it on the days that it peaks and I like the way it feels but then it diminishes I know it is still there obviously, but maybe my dose is just not high enough. I am not going to increase it a lot maybe 250 or a little more per wk.

what is your cycle right now? dose and how long you plan to run it.

 

[BIGBEN2011]

yea i have all ways done mon and thursday but i am finishing a cycle and am going to try mon ,wed ,fri just so i dont have to pin so much oil volume at one time.going to up my dose 1gram a week of tets e for the last 2 weeks of this 10 weeks cycle.

 

[VictorZ06]

Well, it really depends on several factors in my opinion. In my case, be it a cut or bulk run....I'm either using NPP or tren ace. And since I pin those ED, I load the longer esters in the same syringe and use it that syringe EOD with the longer esters in it. Either way, I pin ED because I choose to use NPP and tren ace.



/V

 

[Diesel618]

I pinned Test E EOD for the first 4 weeks of my last cycle just to frontload. 1 ml each shot, then backed down to 1.5 ml 2X week for the rest of the cycle. Worked pretty well I suppose. I don't think I had a bad workout the entire cycle so I guess I don't know my body well enough to notice the peaks and valleys.

 

[FTW34]

has anyone thought of just pinning once every 2 days. u would still be pinning twice a week but at even intervals, the only thing is your days to pinn will change every week for example

monday, thursday, / sunday, wendsday, / saturday. tuesday, / friday, monday / thursday, sunday/ wendsday, saturday/ tuesday, friday / and back to monday thursday

might look confusing but its done at truly even intervals leaving ur next inject for the latter of ur peak

 

[SFGiants]

I think it's silly if your going to pin eod why not just make it Testosterone Phenylpropionate or just Propionate

 

[bigbenj]

has anyone thought of just pinning once every 2 days. u would still be pinning twice a week but at even intervals, the only thing is your days to pinn will change every week for example

monday, thursday, / sunday, wendsday, / saturday. tuesday, / friday, monday / thursday, sunday/ wendsday, saturday/ tuesday, friday / and back to monday thursday

might look confusing but its done at truly even intervals leaving ur next inject for the latter of ur peak

In simpler context, he means E3D. GICH!

 

[Diesel618]

lolz. You're actually getting slightly more than 2 pins per week and you will run out of gear quicker, but I did E3D at 1 ml per so roughly 520 mg's/week or so on my first cycle and gained 40 lbs and 90 lbs on my bench. Worked for me.

 

[tinyshrek]

Sometimes I think people think way to much about when their gonna pin or what there gonna take instead of what there gonna eat or train...

 

[Supervette101]

Hey I just laid my pinning schedule out on a calendar, using multiple compounds and switching up gear during the cycle it helped me keep everything straight. Plus laying it all out ahead of time I was able to determine exactly how much gear I would need. I did find though pinning EOD, I was looking forward to my next pin and on days I didn't I felt like something was missing.

 

[spartan1]

what is your cycle right now? dose and how long you plan to run it.

Well the first 10 wks was
300 Test Cyp
400 Tren Hex
400 EQ
Then the next 10 wks are
1g Test enth
660 EQ
maybe some dbol at the end at 50mg 25AM 25PM

Been taking HCG 500 MWF
Proviron 25mg ED

So there is is in a nut shell.

At supervet I had it all laid out and drawn on calander but things change and you want to change you dose or maybe even you pinning. But Yes at this point I had to add a pin on wednesday because of the vloume of oil I am already doing on Monday and Friday. It was Mon and Thursday but now that I added another pin on Wednsday I made it MWF.