ephys88 and other IM evolutionists, please explain the origin of the universe

[LAM]

They can still be of their faiths, not every religious person is a fundamentalist. Like how Bruce Lee began mixing the better parts of martial arts and pissed off the Kung-Fu and Karate purists. Adaptation is my faith, it's the only way we will evolve as a species, to one day become universal beings. If anything I like to think we are all god trying to pull itself back together again and our evolution is us working our way back up to god status until one day we are all on that wavelength where it all just clicks and there comes the universal A-HA! moment...

I understand people wanting to believe that "we" as humans have to have another purpose then just life here in these current forms but there simply is no proof of that other than belief systems. personally it puts me at ease to think some day all of this will come to an end.

it really fucking bothers me when religious people happen to be some of the biggest hypocrites as is the entire history of Christianity as when the popes ordered the killing of people in the 1300's CE, etc.

in terms of history and "proof" every bad thing that has occurred to humans on planet earth has been done by other humans. we are the ones that make things good or bad events occur and not "the devil", etc.

the "need" to be worshiped sounds rather petty for a creator of worlds and the universe. a supreme being has no need of such, it's humans that need their egos to get stroked and some more than others.

as time goes by we learn more and more about life on earth and science. I mean who would have ever thought that a person could die from drinking too much water 15-20 years ago? I certainly didn't. but we have seen people do it in recent years during contests, etc.

there have been thousands of religions over the lifetime of humans on this planet and they all come and go.

 

[myCATpowerlifts]

I understand people wanting to believe that "we" as humans have to have another purpose then just life here in these current forms but there simply is no proof of that other than belief systems. personally it puts me at ease to think some day all of this will come to an end.

it really fucking bothers me when religious people happen to be some of the biggest hypocrites as is the entire history of Christianity as when the popes ordered the killing of people in the 1300's CE, etc.

in terms of history and "proof" every bad thing that has occurred to humans on planet earth has been done by other humans. we are the ones that make things good or bad events occur and not "the devil", etc.

the "need" to be worshiped sounds rather petty for a creator of worlds and the universe. a supreme being has no need of such, it's humans that need their egos to get stroked and some more than others.

as time goes by we learn more and more about life on earth and science. I mean who would have ever thought that a person could die from drinking too much water 15-20 years ago? I certainly didn't. but we have seen people do it in recent years during contests, etc.

there have been thousands of religions over the lifetime of humans on this planet and they all come and go.

Humans like trends.

The root, however, is the same.

Sorry LAM, but your mind is your universe.

As long as you continue to be a sadist, you will continue to feel alone.

 

[LAM]

Humans like trends.

The root, however, is the same.

Sorry LAM, but your mind is your universe.

As long as you continue to be a sadist, you will continue to feel alone.

I don't feel alone at all many of my friends are in the same boat. I've never felt the need to believe in a higher power. My parents dropped my sister and I off to church but never ever talked about god in our home nor did any of my friends or their parents. most of my friends back in Philly are Irish or Italian Catholics but it's as if nobody really bought into it or tried to sell it anymore.

I just have a really hard time grasping that grown up adults in this day and age believe in such things simply because they are written in a book. take away all those books and scriptures from all the religions and what's left? nothing, not a single one of them more or less credible or "factual" than the other.

 

[maniclion]

I understand people wanting to believe that "we" as humans have to have another purpose then just life here in these current forms but there simply is no proof of that other than belief systems. personally it puts me at ease to think some day all of this will come to an end.

it really fucking bothers me when religious people happen to be some of the biggest hypocrites as is the entire history of Christianity as when the popes ordered the killing of people in the 1300's CE, etc.

in terms of history and "proof" every bad thing that has occurred to humans on planet earth has been done by other humans. we are the ones that make things good or bad events occur and not "the devil", etc.

the "need" to be worshiped sounds rather petty for a creator of worlds and the universe. a supreme being has no need of such, it's humans that need their egos to get stroked and some more than others.

as time goes by we learn more and more about life on earth and science. I mean who would have ever thought that a person could die from drinking too much water 15-20 years ago? I certainly didn't. but we have seen people do it in recent years during contests, etc.

there have been thousands of religions over the lifetime of humans on this planet and they all come and go.

As long as these beliefs don't stifle imagination I am fine with them, it's when they try to lock us into the past and kill all future knowledge that they irk me and need to shut the fuck up and leave people be....

 

[LAM]

As long as these beliefs don't stifle imagination I am fine with them, it's when they try to lock us into the past and kill all future knowledge that they irk me and need to shut the fuck up and leave people be....

any ideology is based on abstract thought which makes them insufficiently factual.

the very definition of a fact is that it is mind independent and objective and stands to be true whether or not a person knows of it or acknowledges it as such. religious beliefs are subjective and the exact opposite of that therefore not factual simply because a person "believes" them to be.