Eq at 300mg

[Gulfcoastgorilla]

Is equipoise at 300mg a week good for anything at all. I have 12cc of eq300 left over from a past cycle and I was wondering if I could add it to a twelve weaker of test-tren

 

[Dominator Human]

You will need more EQ.

You should run the EQ at 600mg/wk for at least 16 weeks along with some test.

Run the Test slightly higher than the EQ and for 2 weeks longer.

 

[Gulfcoastgorilla]

Yes that is what I figured. I just had this and thought it may do some good added into my cycle.

 

[Hell]

Im running EQ at 300mg a week with my Test and Tren. Ive had 3 vials of 100mg/ml laying around for over a year. I asked a couple of knowledgeable dudes about it at 300mg a week and they said yea, sure it will work. Im mainly using it for vascularity and whatever lean gains it will help and trying it out for the first time to see if I would want to spend $ on it in the future.
Of course you always read, at least 600mg for at least 16 weeks etc... But you always also read that test has to be higher the deca, or twice as much as the combined others to keep a stable cock and I have learned that is far from the truth.
300mg Test Prop a week
300mg EQ a week
700mg Tren Ace a Week

 

[redz]

EQ is a very weak compound. I noticed almost nothing off of 600mg/week for 15 weeks. In general there is just better compounds than EQ out there.

 

[XYZ]

You will need more EQ.

You should run the EQ at 600mg/wk for at least 16 weeks along with some test.

Run the Test slightly higher than the EQ and for 2 weeks longer.

Good post.

 

[AnthonyPiccari]

Since when does test have to be run higher then EQ? im running Test 600mg per week and Eq 900mg per week and getting the results I hoped for and more. Libido is up vascular as fuck and feeling great, eating like a horse. Am I missing something?

 

[juiceball44]

The test higher than other compounds is straight up BS. Some people can get by with test as low as hrt doses 250mg a week while having other compounds much much higher

 

[AnthonyPiccari]

The test higher than other compounds is straight up BS. Some people can get by with test as low as hrt doses 250mg a week while having other compounds much much higher

Exactly what i thought and have read, but man people just like to apply principles that should only be applied to certain compounds across the board to all compounds. Even with Tren, guys are running it higher than the Test, loving it and actually prefer it.

 

[XYZ]

Since when does test have to be run higher then EQ? im running Test 600mg per week and Eq 900mg per week and getting the results I hoped for and more. Libido is up vascular as fuck and feeling great, eating like a horse. Am I missing something?

It doesn't and you're not.

 

[hypno]

I would think that the correct answer to this question would be, what are your goals.

Fact is eq at 300 per week is pretty darn mild. However, it could still have some effect. Just noting like noticeable muscle growth or big strength gains. If you goal is to add them to what you are doing for a little bump in results then I would say it could help.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

I'd expect a slight boost in endurance and vascularity but nothing dramatic. I'd just buy some more and run it higher in addition to your test and tren. Maybe the increased rbc could mitigate some of the endurance killing aspects of trenbolone

 

[nby]

At 300mg it'll help your joints etc as test downgrades your collagen synthesis and EQ ups is. Other than that I doubt you'll get any real "gains" from the EQ since you're already running a much more powerful compound; tren.

 

[VictorZ06]

At 300mg....it will help increase your RBC. That's about it, IMHO. When I use it, I use 1gr EW....anything less and it's a waste for me.



/V

 

[boss]

EQ is a very weak compound. I noticed almost nothing off of 600mg/week for 15 weeks. In general there is just better compounds than EQ out there.

Must suck getting fake or underdosed compounds.

 

[boss]

At 300mg it'll help your joints etc as test downgrades your collagen synthesis and EQ ups is. Other than that I doubt you'll get any real "gains" from the EQ since you're already running a much more powerful compound; tren.

I have been told from very well informed guys that EQ doesn't help the joints. I know it doesn't help mine at all.

 

[nby]

I have been told from very well informed guys that EQ doesn't help the joints. I know it doesn't help mine at all.

Increase skeletal muscle & collagen synthesis with certain AAS - Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums - Steroidology

Increase skeletal muscle & collagen synthesis with certain AAS

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(originally posted by AnimalMass)

While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, HGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.

 

[MattPorter]

Sure -- throw it in at 300/week. If it's actual legit EQ and not some underdosed UGL deca or oil then it will work fine.

Running anabolics HIGHER than test is GREAT for actually LOOKING good! I would recommend all competitors to keep their testosterone dose at 500 mg or 250 mg/week while focusing on higher dosages of tren, primo, EQ etc....

-Matt

 

[Gulfcoastgorilla]

It is dragon pharma. I have used the cut mix. Great stuff. Hopefully this is dosed correctly

 

[boss]

For NBY's post I don't agree. I have read different and been told different from mods on here and guys elsewhere.