F**king honesty. - RANT

[sword-]

Listen everyone...goes to guys and girls. If you aren't interested in anyone don't pretend you are, and don't have an ulterior motive (e.g. try to use them) and be dishonest.

I hate f**king emotionally dishonest people. Discuss.

 

[Tier]

Ran into that in a lot of women. I'm not sure guys lead on like girls do. We seem to be more direct in most cases.

 

[min0 lee]

I can't stand dishonest people, for that matter I pick my friends wisely.

 

[thefutureisnow]

Right now I don't have show much of a problem with dishonest people, just not loyal friends. Which I guess could be considered dishonesty in a way.

 

[sword-]

Right now I don't have show much of a problem with dishonest people, just not loyal friends. Which I guess could be considered dishonesty in a way.

This is in terms of male-female relationships.

I haven't had any of my personal friends be disloyal to me, even when it comes to women.

 

[Trouble]

Could be you have the wrong read on what happened to set you off (and cause you to post this rant).

You meet someone causually, you don't always portray yourself fully - call it your party face. Its the general persona you adapt and wear for sociobility purposes.

Get to know someone better, you, or they, may show more of whats inside.

Could be appealing, or could be the opposite. In which case, they'll change attitude and the signals sent.

Men and women, young and old, like to be found acceptable, and that party face may not accurately reflect whats underneath.

Its a matter of emotional security, and belief in yourself, if you elect to forego that party face and be judged on your merits on an "as-is" basis.

Look to the larger picture, the setting, the interpersonal dynamics. If you're in a playa situation with other young folk, learn to peer beneath the facade, so that you're not duped, and remember to take the gamers words and actions with a grain of salt.

 

[sword-]

Hey trouble

I'm really not talking about a party situation. I know the social dynamics in that situation is entirely different as people tend to be hypersocial, have a different 'face' as you mentioned, etc. , but I am preety much talking about non-party non-night time scenarios. I'm actually talking about something else

 

[Trouble]

You'd better explain the circumstances of this particular situation, if you want constructive feedback.

We need to talk about reading body language as a clue to intentions, interpersonal reactions, and mood.

 

[sword-]

You'd better explain the circumstances of this particular situation, if you want constructive feedback.

We need to talk about reading bodylanguage as a clue to intentions.

I've studied body language haha this is kinda different. I'm not talking about it publically lol (my situation). And I'm just ranting really.

 

[sword-]

I will explain in private though

 

[Trouble]

So you're dissapointed because you misread the signals and you got snubbed when you acted on an incorrect intepretation of the situation?

Or were you deliberately misled?


PS: I'm not here to play "Dear Abby". I thought there might be angle here; provision of a little discussion and insight often is helpful for many. That's why I do it on a few different forums - there are enough "me toos" in the same boat to make it worthwhile.

 

[sword-]

So you're dissapointed because you misread the signals and you got snubbed when you acted on an incorrect intepretation of the situation?

Or were you deliberately misled?

Deliberately misled. I made it clear that the person had no obligations to me but I am interested in you at the moment. If you are not into me, that's fine. Simple concept.

 

[Trouble]

So you got taken for a ride, briefly, ditched, and now you're licking your wounded pride.

You misread the person, which can happen to anybody.

Chalk it up to experience. Try to figure out which character traits attracted you to this person. Maybe do a little reconnoiter of your own behavior. Could it be you send out conflicting signals as well?

 

[GFR]

Deliberately misled. I made it clear that the person had no obligations to me but I am interested in you at the moment. If you are not into me, that's fine. Simple concept.

So you got taken for a ride, briefly, ditched, and now you're licking your wounded pride.

You misread the person, which can happen to anybody.

Chalk it up to experience. Try to figure out which character traits attracted you to this person. Maybe do a little reconnoiter of your own behavior. Could it be you send out conflicting signals as well?

Trouble, work on your reading comprehension.

sword-, many women deliberatly mislead men so they can get what they want.....sometimes just attention, other times money, free dinner, free drinks and gifts ect. It is just the way it is, learn their game and this problem wont happen to you anymore.

 

[sword-]

Haha ForemanRules.

Anyways trouble, no I was deliberately misled, Usually she is the one that is trying to talk to me, not the other way around. I stay preety honest so it's no skin off my nose really, I just don't like being decieved.

Good thing all I gave her was attention.

 

[GFR]

Haha ForemanRules.

Anyways trouble, no I was deliberately misled, Usually she is the one that is trying to talk to me, not the other way around. I stay preety honest so it's no skin off my nose really, I just don't like being decieved.

Good thing all I gave her was attention.

You need to read this


Leykis 101 ( a must read)
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER, EVER date a single mother. You already know her stance on abortion, she wont have one. Don't risk paying vaginamoney! PLUS, her kids will always come before you! Why would you want to be second place to some spoiled little brat!?![/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't ask a women what she wants to do. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never tell a women how much money you make.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't EVER date co-workers! Unless you don't give a rats ass about your job, stay away from people you work with! It's always asking for trouble.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never answer the phone, or go out on the weekend. Even if you really don't, you have to make it appear as though you have better things to do than be with her on the weekends.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never spend more than 40 bucks on a date. This includes buying gifts, flowers, candy, jewelry, etc. It does NOT help in getting laid. It's a waste of money. If anything, buy alcohol and get her drunk.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. There is NO point, you will NOT get laid when women are in groups.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
I[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]f you are not getting laid by the 3rd date, dump her and move on.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]No spooning, no cuddling, no staying over. Get in, get out![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are really ready to settle down.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER answer the phone on the weekends. It makes you look like you have nothing better to do. Weekends should be reserved for hanging out with your buddies or for guaranteed sex. Even if you really have nothing to do, let the answering machine take the call. You're busy.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Don't speak to women you work with unless it's related directly to work. Don't date them. Don't tell them they look nice. Don't comment on anything except whatever work needs you have, because you're a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.[/FONT]

 

[sword-]

Haha..half of those are garbage.

 

[GFR]

Haha..half of those are garbage.

That opinion is why women walk all over you son

 

[sword-]

That opinion is why women walk all over you son

Okay here's an example:

NEVER approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. There is NO point, you will NOT get laid when women are in groups.

That is complete garbage if you really want to talk seduction theory and whatnot. Seriously, do you think most people who go to the club go alone?

 

[Trouble]

Agreed, Sword, half the recommendations are worthless.

My reading comprehension isn't the problem, Foreman. Whether you call it "misreading the person" or situational misread, or misunderstanding their intent, it boils to the same thing...a misread.

Sword, just because a woman talks to you, doens't mean she'ws interested in a relationship with you.

 

[sword-]

Sword, just because a woman talks to you, doens't mean she'ws interested in a relationship with you.

I never said that, and it is a little bit more involved than what I've divulged on here. Trust me I know I was mislead, and I don't think because a woman talks to me she's interested in me.

As for being 'mislead' you can argue that someone telling you a bold face lie and you actually believing them is 'misreading' them, but in reality, they are just a damn dishonest person.

 

[GFR]

Okay here's an example:



That is complete garbage if you really want to talk seduction theory and whatnot. Seriously, do you think most people who go to the club go alone?

You miss read it.....you go in with a wing man or two....not alone

And you have to pick your spots son

 

[GFR]

Agreed, Sword, half the recommendations are worthless.

My reading comprehension isn't the problem, Foreman. Whether you call it "misreading the person" or situational misread, or misunderstanding their intent, it boils to the same thing...a misread.

Sword, just because a woman talks to you, doens't mean she'ws interested in a relationship with you.

Deliberately misled and misreading are two completly different things....look them up

You seems you do not want to hear what he is saying, it is better to listen and then comment then to ignore the person and what he/she is saying.

 

[sword-]

Deliberately misled and misreading are two completly different things.

Yes.

Can anyone else contribute to this thead?

 

[nsimmons]

Gee, a pussy and a woman not liking leykis' rules, what a suprise.
Leykis is God

Sword, listen to foreman, if i had when i was 22 i would have saved myself a lot of grief and money.

If you have the slightest attraction for a woman, 1 million other guys do as well and she knows it and will use it for whatever she can. The are ALL the same, to one degree or another. Every woman ever born will use her gender to manipulate her situation. Men use money.

Smarten up.

 

[VanessaNicole]

You need to read this


Leykis 101 ( a must read)
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER, EVER date a single mother. You already know her stance on abortion, she wont have one. Don't risk paying vaginamoney! PLUS, her kids will always come before you! Why would you want to be second place to some spoiled little brat!?![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't ask a women what she wants to do. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never tell a women how much money you make.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't EVER date co-workers! Unless you don't give a rats ass about your job, stay away from people you work with! It's always asking for trouble.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never answer the phone, or go out on the weekend. Even if you really don't, you have to make it appear as though you have better things to do than be with her on the weekends.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never spend more than 40 bucks on a date. This includes buying gifts, flowers, candy, jewelry, etc. It does NOT help in getting laid. It's a waste of money. If anything, buy alcohol and get her drunk.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. There is NO point, you will NOT get laid when women are in groups.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
I[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]f you are not getting laid by the 3rd date, dump her and move on.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]No spooning, no cuddling, no staying over. Get in, get out![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are really ready to settle down.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER answer the phone on the weekends. It makes you look like you have nothing better to do. Weekends should be reserved for hanging out with your buddies or for guaranteed sex. Even if you really have nothing to do, let the answering machine take the call. You're busy.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Don't speak to women you work with unless it's related directly to work. Don't date them. Don't tell them they look nice. Don't comment on anything except whatever work needs you have, because you're a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.[/FONT]

I wouldn't take that kind of crap from any guy.

VanessaNicole

 

[david]

You need to read this


Leykis 101 ( a must read)
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER, EVER date a single mother. You already know her stance on abortion, she wont have one. Don't risk paying vaginamoney! PLUS, her kids will always come before you! Why would you want to be second place to some spoiled little brat!?![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never do what you don't want to do. You make the money, you decide where you are going and what you are doing.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't ask a women what she wants to do. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never tell a women how much money you make.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Don't EVER date co-workers! Unless you don't give a rats ass about your job, stay away from people you work with! It's always asking for trouble.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never answer the phone, or go out on the weekend. Even if you really don't, you have to make it appear as though you have better things to do than be with her on the weekends.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never spend more than 40 bucks on a date. This includes buying gifts, flowers, candy, jewelry, etc. It does NOT help in getting laid. It's a waste of money. If anything, buy alcohol and get her drunk.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. There is NO point, you will NOT get laid when women are in groups.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
I[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]f you are not getting laid by the 3rd date, dump her and move on.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]No spooning, no cuddling, no staying over. Get in, get out![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are really ready to settle down.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT]NEVER answer the phone on the weekends. It makes you look like you have nothing better to do. Weekends should be reserved for hanging out with your buddies or for guaranteed sex. Even if you really have nothing to do, let the answering machine take the call. You're busy.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Don't speak to women you work with unless it's related directly to work. Don't date them. Don't tell them they look nice. Don't comment on anything except whatever work needs you have, because you're a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.[/FONT]

Dishonesty (or, not revealing income) and selfishness. Well, with those two characteristics, I guess you could rule out any quality or a woman with substance.

 

[GFR]

Dishonesty (or, not revealing income) and selfishness. Well, with those two characteristics, I guess you could rule out any quality or a woman with substance.

First off this is for young guys looking to have fun not find wives. Secondly where is the Dishonest part??? A persons income is personal and should not be shouted from the mountain tops son. Lastly at 16-25 who wants a "quality" woman? All guys that age want is quality sex and fun.

 

[GFR]

I wouldn't take that kind of crap from any guy.

VanessaNicole

Yes you would and yes you have

 

[VanessaNicole]

Yes you would and yes you have

Uh, nope.

VanessaNicole

(No cuddling, no weekends, no sex. No exceptions.)